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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: BenDover on December 27, 2002, 09:25:46 PM
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I have 3 options
1. Stick with ME
2. Upgrade to Win 2000 (might be pro ed, need to look at the case again)
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3. Upgrade to Win XP Pro
So what do you recomend I should do?
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Go with Win 2k Pro. It was one of the best (once updated with Service Packs) OS's I have ever used. I like some things about WinXP but there are many things I wish were different.
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W2K Pro
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There is no Windows 2000 Home, only Professional. :)
I also recommend Windows 2000 over XP.
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a friend of mine has xp pro. i sometimes use his comp. in game and it is the most stable i've personally seen.(and user friendly)
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I'm using the XP pro for over a year now. Never got any problems, everythig running smoothly.
sailor
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you should definately switch. 2k or XP is just a matter of taste, they will run the same...
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hmm, but from what i've heard, win 2000 isn't that good for games
Is that true, or a bag of bull toejam?
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Its BS.
Win2k and WinXP are both very stable platforms. The only problems I know of with either involve alot of "tampering".
I run Win2K on my server... have been for three years without a problem. I run XP on my gaming computer. I've not had a problem with it either.
Win2K does have a different licensing strategy than XP. That may be something to consider (2Ks is generally considered better since its not "time limited") depending on your application. I know this makes a difference to Skuzzy. For me, its not as much of a concern.
AKDejaVu
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2k and XP is based on the same code, which is NT... they are both very alike, the main differences are in GUI...
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True Deja, but I have to maintain XP and 2K systems here and much prefer 2K over XP.
XP has enough issues that I would stay with 2K regardless of the licensing.
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I've had 3 machines come through my computer room this fall. All 3 were non functional when they brought them in.
2 out of the 3 were older machines that should never have been upgraded from 98SE.
both windows 2k machines were totally messed up trying to run older componants. The ME machine was an all usb POC (USB keyboard = unable to change bios settings).
All three went home with clean installs of Win 98SE, loaded with the best software I could find for them. All ran WAY better on straight win 98 SE than they ever did on Win2k/ME.
My point, if building new system, or buying, then fine, go with XP.
If working with older system with older peripherals, stick with 98. Nothing beats it overall for speed & compatibility.
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but i don't have win98, i have me, xp pro (not sure if the cd's working though), and win 2000
Here are my system specs if it might make a difference:
AMD Durron 1.1 ghz
512 mb sdram
Geforce4 440 mx
SB Audigy
30 gig HDD
a really cheap 56k modem
Main use: Games, games, game, and some music and porno
btw, which has better dial-up networking surport, are they about the same?
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There are few differences besides the GUI that separate Win2k and WinXP Pro. WinXP home lacks many features that Win2k has.
WinXP has built in .zip file support and a very basic firewall that Windows 2000 does not have. The default WinXP gui is also different. (I personally do not like it.) Windows XP does boot up faster than Windows 2000.
Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 (or 3) can be made more secure and is IMO more stable than Windows XP. There are also privacy and licensing issues that I do not care for in Windows XP. It is essentially a rental OS.
Windows XP and Windows 2000 both run games perfectly fine. A while back I found an article comparing several games under different OSes. Overall Windows XP and Windows 2000 were neck and neck and usually slightly faster running newer games than Windows ME. If I remember where I found that article I will post a link to it. (I think it was Tom's Hardware.)
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There are few differences besides the GUI that separate Win2k and WinXP Pro. WinXP home lacks many features that Win2k has.
WinXP has built in .zip file support and a very basic firewall that Windows 2000 does not have. The default WinXP gui is also different. (I personally do not like it.) Windows XP does boot up faster than Windows 2000.
Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 (or 3) can be made more secure and is IMO more stable than Windows XP. There are also privacy and licensing issues that I do not care for in Windows XP. It is essentially a rental OS.
Windows XP and Windows 2000 both run games perfectly fine. A while back I found an article comparing several games under different OSes. Overall Windows XP and Windows 2000 were neck and neck and usually slightly faster running newer games than Windows ME. If I remember where I found that article I will post a link to it. (I think it was Tom's Hardware.)
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http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20020930/index.html
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XP Pro.
I would never go back to 2000, 98, ME etc...
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Go with XP-Pro. It has the advantage of setting any program you want to run under an earlier operating system. If you want AH to run under 2000, you can. Don't like how it operates set it back to XP.
Jack Mehoof.
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Get Win XP.
Although I must say that there's nothing wrong in Win 2000 either. Imo Win Xp is Win 2000 Pro with little candy and improved multimedia features (?)
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Folks,..there are substantial differences between XP and 2K.
Enough that there are different versions of DirectX for both.
Oh,..any XP users notice you can no longer get the DirectX install file as a stand alone installation anymore?
You can still get it for 2K.
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DROO, Windows 2000 has compatibility mode as well. Just right click the application executable, pick properites and the last tab to the right is the one you want.
I'm glad those of you who are using Win XP like it. I personally do not. It was installed for about a week before I reformatted and went back to Windows 2000 SP 2. It wasn't any more stable than Win2k. That was a $100 dollar mistake, but fortunately I just gave that computer away and the XP disk went with it.
There are two main reasons that Windows XP will not touch my computer:
1. "Automatic Updates" - This means Microsoft automatically scans and installs "updates" as it feels necessary. (I'd suggest looking at the "Security Digital Content" rights management portion of the EULA, which says Microsoft may lock down certain media files and content without user approval.) In my line of work I sometimes do programming work and it is ABSOLUTELY vital no software is installed or running when I'm trying to debug a program I've written. I do not want my OS changing key system files automatically.
2. Windows XP has the ability to deactivate itself when hardware changes are made. After a certain date (July 31 2004, if I remember right) reactivation may not be free. Even when it is "free" it means calling Microsoft and waiting on hold for about 15 minutes or going online (if you have an internet connection - my debugging machine does not). I change hardware all the time, Windows XP would be a nightmare for me.
Some other reasons I don't like Windows XP: The OS is constantly sending traffic to Microsoft when you are online (chewing up valuable bandwidth for people who do not have broadband access where they live yet). I personally like to be in control of my computer and don't like Microsoft having administrator rights to my computer to access and change files when they see fit. (I can see that the license key of Microsoft software installed on the computer is sent to Microsoft whenever an "update" is downloaded... :( ) Regardless of the fact that they may have a legal right to do that, it just feels like the police searching your computer every day to make sure you aren't doing something you shouldn't.
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Well said Bloom..
I'd also like to add that porn looks way better on W2k than on XP.
That alone is good enough reason to get it.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Folks,..there are substantial differences between XP and 2K.
Enough that there are different versions of DirectX for both.
Oh,..any XP users notice you can no longer get the DirectX install file as a stand alone installation anymore?
You can still get it for 2K.
I don't get it... what's the significance of not being able to get a stand-alone directX install file?
You mean you have to go to windows update and have your computer searched? Or is there more bad news too?
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Originally posted by bloom25
WinXP has built in .zip file support and a very basic firewall that Windows 2000 does not have.
Please explain this. I'm running Win2k Advanced Server and see the same basic firewall setup there, though some settings are not quite as obvious. There is port blocking and forwarding capabilities. The default WinXP gui is also different. (I personally do not like it.)
I didn't like it at first either. I thought it felt slimey. Though, I did find that as I switched back and forth I began to like XP's GUI better than the 2k/Win98 GUI.
AKDejaVu
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For those people who run MadOnion's 3D MARK 2001 (a program that test your v-card to the limits) Stay on Win-98. Most testers found that their benchmark number is bigger in Win98 than the newer windows OSs.
If you want your win98 or ME to run faster or not to crash anymore, download "Anti Crash" and "Hare" by dachshund software.
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Well i've had to go with 2000, XP disk is FUBAR, and ME has started its monthly period of throwing errors in my face
Besides it being a squeak to install my modem, everything seems to be running fine
EXCEPT! aces high, i keep getting loads of spiky graphics, like this
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FYI, its been rumored that Micro$uck is trying to phase out win 98
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Originally posted by BenDover
Well i've had to go with 2000, XP disk is FUBAR, and ME has started its monthly period of throwing errors in my face
Besides it being a squeak to install my modem, everything seems to be running fine
EXCEPT! aces high, i keep getting loads of spiky graphics, like this
No no no... it seems that HTC has modeled northern lights also. :D
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Hey bloom, rtfm on XP, all the stuff u squeaked about can be turned off really easy.
I have XP on gaming system, love it, its dead stable. 2k is on my server.
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BenDover load SP3 for Win2K and your probs with vid card should clear up.
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Running Win98SE on my fourth machine.
Never a problem after rebuilding PC
Never a problem updating drivers etc.
Never ever a stability problem.
Guess ya might say I'm a big Windows98SE fan. I have no reason that I can see to switch OS.
Hajo
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Originally posted by Tyro48
BenDover load SP3 for Win2K and your probs with vid card should clear up.
yeah, did that after i posted that, works fine now, took 3 hrs to download
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I have 7 machines in the house
1 with XPro
1 with XP home
4 with 98SE
1 with ME
depending on what im doing decides which OS to use
the pro is a video and film editing machine and goes online
the home builds websites an goes online
1 98SE is just for AH hehehehe
1 98SE is for playing around online and research
1 is for company that comes over and goes online
1 98SE is a music mastering machine and NEVER goes online
The ME is a home studio music recording machine and NEVER goes online
I have had great results from all the OS systems for what I use them for
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F the mass's turn into a penguin