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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StSanta on December 31, 2002, 06:39:44 AM
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Best thing God/Random Fluctuations in Space Time have created.
Unlike cats, dogs are loyal. They're far more social and a good bit more intelligent. And unlike cats, their loyality doesn't swing along with a can opener.
Studies have shown that having a pet (especially a dog) lowers blood pressure, reduces stress and generally improves your well being. In the case of dogs, their absolute loyalty is a fresh break from dealing with humans, where behaviour seems to be dictated around how to attain things. perhaps it's because I live where I do, but I more and more get the feeling that humans only treat other humans nicely when they think they can get a direct material benefit from it. Seems many humans are quite ready to steal your last loaf of bread if you ain't looking. (LOL, neighbor just did that while I was taking a piss, and now he refuses to admit that he dinnae, despite all of a sudden not being hungry anymore).
Anyway. Dogs are great. Love them. Will post a pic of my Max as soon as I get tech Support to supply me with my password for my home page (lost it in system crash three days ago).
Cat people are ok. Dog people rule.
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Yep, dogs are my kind of people.
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I agree,
Heard it best summed up by a comedian on TV:
"The reason I like dogs more than cats is if I suddenly shrank to three inches tall, my dog would still obey me. My cat would kill and eat me."
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Just don't walk it in your leather pants ... ppl might get the wrong idea :)
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best case scenario- you get the smartest cat in the world, he still craps in your house.
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3 cats 2 dogs...
I admit that if one of the cats happened to wander in front of a passing steamroller, I'd recover.
In about 3 seconds.
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What about a cat/dog person?
I got 2 cats and 2 dogs.
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Man the cat is ok but he pup is just awsome... she has grown so much!!
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Actually, dogs are using their owners.
Cats do too, but they are more independent and have personality.
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I like the independent nature and cleanliness of cats, and really dislike the smell in the house from dogs.
But overall,..I like em both,..I am just lazy and hate bathing dogs.
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we had some good cats when we lived on the farm. but the sign of a good cat is you never have to feed it. if they aren't killing enough pests to only require food as a treat they are worthless. IMO no cat that recognises( or can be called with) the sound of an electric can opener is worth a damn. cats are only loyal to whoever holds the can opener today.
dogs will sacrifice their own welfare to do whats in the best interest of their family. cats are unaware of the word 'sacrifice'.
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Who says you can't train cats? I trained my wife's cats to run for their lives AND to swim in less than a minute.
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I have 2 Great Danes, they're more like urban livestock. One thing that cats can never do is protect your property, one of my dogs, Astro, has caught 2 car burglers in the past 5 years. She's earned her keep IMO ;)
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I love my dog, except in the mornings at 6 am, when I have to take him out to -20°C temp. Lots of joy, he's always willing to play and having fun. Throw him a ball and he'll bring it back to you over and over again. Even thought I don't like those morning outdoor activities, I've never regret for taking him. Dogs are just great. :)
Here's my "Nova"
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/cool/Nova_1.jpg)
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Im more of a cat person myself, we have a cat whos 14 yrs old and a dog whos bout 3. The cat has much more personality plus the dog keeps waking me up every morning:mad:
cats rule dogs drule:D
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dogs smell all the time though and they have to be walked everytime they need to crap or exercise if you live in a little apartment like i do.
also the poop laws say you have to wait for that nugget to harden and pick it up off the sidewalk when rover's done.
my cat sits around and poses all day and smells like baby powder. if she needs exercise she goes and kills a play mouse (provided no real ones are available). i scoop thru the sand a few times per week and voila. they practically take care of themselves and they're very affectionate provided you're not one of those idiots that walks around yelling and flapping their arms all the time.
sometimes she sits in the window looking down on the street below watching dogs bark and fumble around in the rain and grovel to thier owners- the look on her face is saying "hmpf. ..handsomehunk dogs" it doesn't take a genious to translate it. :)
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Cats have personality... but they all have the exact same personality. Some are just more skiddish than others. "Look at me, I'm cool. Adore me, I'm cool. Feed me, I'm cool"
With my dogs, I can tell when they are ashamed, embarassed, happy, bored, anxious or whatever. That is what I call personality.
Dogs are better.
AKDejaVu
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Only herd animals can be domesticated in the strict sence of a word. Others can be tamed but it is not the same.
Dogs are herd animals. Cats are not.
So cat is just living in your house. It adopts using the specie's innate flexibility but does not become part of it.
Dog is really a part of your family - which he perceives as a pack, with all the implications. So dog has natural instincts to cooperate, obey, even sacrifice.
Not just a puppy, you can admit an adult dog, even wild one into a family/pack and as soon as you show him the place in the hierarchy, the process is over - the animal is domestic. Anyone who is higher in hierarchy than him - you, your spouse, a child - will be allowed to even take away food from him without any problem. Though in many cases the dog treats/tolerates a child not as higher in hierarchy but as a cub of the pack - so the indulgence may end one day with a snap or a growl - when the dog believes a child to grow big enough to obey the pack rules.
Even when he is sure he is stronger and can kill the offender, the dog obeys those rules. Just make sure he knows the hierarchy, then the most vicious dog is completely safe - to the family.
Dog certainly does not yield from the fear of beating - the same dog would attack a stranger despite most griveous wounds but would quickly put his tail between his legs at the smallest sign of discontent from the owner - the "alpha".
Of course obeying rules of hierarchy is very different from blind subjugation. There are rules and obligations expected from both directions. A dog would tolerate a higher-up taking away his food, or beating him as punishment for transgression but he may snap at you for "unreasonably" pulling his ears, trying to clip his claws or approaching with a hair dryer - high status does not entitle you to that indignity though being perceived as a pup/child could.
With cat it never ever works like that. The cat would tolerate a lot of things done to it - but only becasue he knows that he is weaker in every particular case. Even then he is likely to claw you and escape. I have never heard of an unwilling cat taught to tolerate children.
I am very surprised anyone would believe dogs have less personality than cats. Being social species with inter-pack relations and hierarchy and communications a major component of dog's natural environment, dog has evolved more provisions for interacting and communicating with others, reading and conveying feelings and intents - which is what personality is all about.
Oh, of course once in a while you get phsychotic and antisocial dog in whom the mechanism does not work - just like in sociopaths among humans. One could almost say that all cats are sociopaths - but that would not be correct at all since they do not have a "socio" norm to begin with.
miko
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Originally posted by MrLars
I have 2 Great Danes, they're more like urban livestock. One thing that cats can never do is protect your property, one of my dogs, Astro, has caught 2 car burglers in the past 5 years. She's earned her keep IMO ;)
My sister recently got a Great Dane.
What fantasic dogs they are.
So far he has "tried" to stop a thief from breaking into her car...a fence prevented him from getting to the guy...by barking a warning. He was told to be quiet and the theif got my sister's wallet.
Christmas eve he ended up waking a very drunk party goer up who had fallen asleep in my sister's yard. He wouldn't let the guy get up...he pawed him to the ground every time he tried, and stood there barking throughout our dinner. When my brother-in-law finally went out to see what was up he found this guy lying there scared out of his mind.
Twice he has done his job and twice he was initially ignored.
Won't happen again though. ;)
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Here are my 2 dogs..
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other one
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sorry didnt have time to shrink them..
Want the 2 cats?
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Here is my cat Suki quietly waiting for food.:)
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Wasn't this thread about dogs? Oh please, take those cats away! I hate cats!!! Only time they care about you is when they are hungry :D
Happy New Year! 4 hours and many many beers to go :D
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Dogs, no doubt about it.
"(CNN) -- About 15,000 years of friendship between man and dog have helped man's best friend to develop unique ways of understanding humans: abilities that still are somewhat mysterious to scientists and dog lovers, several studies released this week found.
Whether it's a beagle, basenji or basset hound, scientists say dogs all over the globe descended from one common ancestor, probably somewhere in East Asia about 15,000 years ago, and they have followed man through his migrations over the Earth.
"Dogs are an important part of our human history, and until now there hasn't been much common knowledge, only a lot of common guessing about their origin," said Peter Savolainen, a geneticist at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden.
Tracing the origins
Three studies in this week's Science magazine provide evidence that early humans had domesticated gray wolves by the time they crossed the Bering Strait to settle the New World, 12,000 to 14,000 years ago. DNA analysis of dogs worldwide showed the most genetic diversity in East Asia, meaning dogs have likely been domesticated there the longest. Another study that compared Old and New World dogs found that canines in North and South America also descended from that same Eurasian mother.
"We know that dogs were useful for lots of things in Stone Age culture, as draft animals, in hunting, for warmth, and for protection," said Jennifer Leonard, a postdoctoral fellow at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History.
And in sharing food, shelter, survival and play, modern dogs have somehow genetically acquired an insight about humans that has earned them the title of man's best friend.
"It looks like dogs really do understand what we are trying to tell them, they are thinking about what we want, and they understand that we are trying to communicate," said Brian Hare of Harvard University, who authored one of the studies.
Picking up on human needs
Not only did the dogs Hare tested pick up on what human researchers were trying to convey, they surprised scientists by doing it much better than other species, even chimpanzees.
Hare's experiment worked in the following manner: A researcher stood near two containers, one of which had food inside. Testing dogs, puppies, wolves and chimpanzees, the researcher would send some cue, either by looking at, tapping on or putting some mark on the food container.
The adult dogs and puppies picked the correct container far more often than either the chimps or the wolves did, and far more often than chance levels. (Controls ruled out the possibility that the animals smelled the food.) By doing so, the dogs defied the expectations of a lot of scientists.
"Wolves have bigger brains than dogs, so it was thought the wolves would do better," Hare said. "And chimpanzees are primates, closer to humans, so it was thought they would do better."
Even the theory that the adult dogs would outperform the puppies because they had spent more time with humans was quashed, when puppies as young as 9 weeks old successfully picked up on subtle cues from human researchers.
"Dogs have a talent for reading social cues in a very sophisticated way," Hare said.
It's in the genes?
These results are not so surprising to zoology professor and dog behavior expert Patricia McConnell.
"Domestic dogs follow humans like a laser and watch the behavior of their humans with a focus that is astounding," said McConnell, a professor at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. "This opens up big and interesting questions about how social intelligence is passed on genetically."
But McConnell said what's not yet understood is which of the cues that humans give are the ones the dog picks out as relevant.
"Perhaps you've taught your dog to sit, and you want to show this off to your friends," McConnell said. "You say, 'Sit,' but he just looks at you."
The rise of designer dogs
The dog, she said, might have learned to sit -- not by your words but by how your head was turned or what your body language was like when he was learning. If those things are different in a roomful of people, the command "sit" may not do the trick.
These visual cues can be critical, said McConnell, who often works with aggressive dogs. A difference of a quarter inch in a human's head movement can be the difference between a calm dog and one that attacks.
But with one common ancestor, why the vast differences in size, shape and skills between shepherds and Shih Tzus, bull mastiffs and border collies?
That's all the work of humans, not genetics. People started creating designer dogs about 500 years ago, said Savolainen, the geneticist at the Royal Institute of Technology.
Upper classes started breeding better hunting and herding dogs and cuter lap dogs. The American Kennel Club now recognizes 150 breeds.
And they're all keeping a watchful eye over their humans."
Besides, you gotta face it, cats dont care if you're there or not.
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my cat will situp and beg when he wants something, whether it's food, or attention. If you don't see him sitting up and begging because he is behind you he will begin to wave his arms about trying to get your attention, if that doesn't work he will utter a small sound once. I usually tackle him after the first stage cause even the waving arms part is just too damn cute.
(for example he sees something that he believes to be string on the floor he will begin to beg and wave his arms about, as soon as I look he will attack it and look at me, looks like an invitation to play to me)
if his food dish is low, he will lead me to it and show me that he needs more.
I once smacked him with a paper towel (just a single sheet for principal not to harm him) he was very upset and being admonished, he then went in and tore the toilet paper off the roll in my bathroom and shredded it. :D
gotta love that hehehe
he's 20lbs and fully clawed and I've bathed him before and he wimpered a little but didn't fight me and would never claw me.
both of my cats have very distinct personalities, both need different amounts of attention and both with act out in their different ways to get it.
Both growl if someone is about the outside of the apt banging around and shoulder to shoulder they will go to investigate.
If I get upset for any reason both recognize this and will come running to me to see what the matter is, the large one will actually start trying to groom my hair if I'm crying or whatnot.
you folks who say they have no personality maybe have been too busy to notice. It's easy to recognize what a great dane is doing, every movement is HUGE. it's harder to pay attention to such a small pet or two who have their own needs and wants and are subtle about them.
I have to wonder if more LW pilots own cats and more spitfire pilots own dogs..
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Ever see a seeing eye cat? Shephard cats?
Ever see the disdain in a cat's eyes (which BTW are fish eyes) when you say "No!"?
Ever hear of a cat dragging a kid to safety when the house catches fire? Dive into water to save a drowning person?
Can you picture a tabby carrying that little barrel thingy St. Bernards carry?
Imagine Nazis marching around a perimeter with viscious guard calicos straining at their leashes.
Imagine the frightened look on an escaped convict's face when he hears the unmistakeable mewing of the tracking cats on his trail...
Dogs all the way for me. :D
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Rommel the BATDOG humps visting ladies legs. No idea why..well I got an idea but you know. its a great converstional piece. This Mini-Pin walks up to a chicks leg. he's got these pointy uncropped ears (batwings) and this smile on his mug. Next thing he grabbing a leg and riding for all he's worth....
Priceless.
Ex-xBAT now FatBat
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once read a story about the japanese who first traveled to europe they said they were disapointed that european women had "dog eyes" seemed like a compliment at first lol.
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K,
what does it say about you as a pet owner who comes back with a list of pet 'uses'..nothing of friendship or personality.
All of the things you have listed can be done better by machines and they have electronic dogs you can buy these days as well.
just think no smell, no poop and no food, it'll always obey and you can probably use it to hold your door open to bring in groceries and as a paperweight, there is no end. Hell if your car gets stuck in the mud you can wedge your electronic dog under their for traction.
The perfect utility.
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strange to hear cat owners complain of dog smell
haven't seen er smelled too many cat owners that at one time or another didnt have the ole litter box aroma going :)
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cats breath, it's worse than dogs breath ANY DAY!
you gotta wonder what the hell is going on in there that can cause that kinda putrid smell :confused:
Originally posted by Eagler
strange to hear cat owners complain of dog smell
haven't seen er smelled too many cat owners that at one time or another didnt have the ole litter box aroma going :)
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Actually I was thinking of intelligence.
And really... can you imagine, at the end of a hard day's work herding cattle or sheep... sitting around the campfire with your trusty ol' herding cat? ;)
Sincerely I believe dogs think, and cats react instinctively.
Edited for spelling, in case Beetle is lurking about, looking for new ways to prove his intelligence. :D
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perhaps it's not the cat's intelligence that is lacking, but humans ability to recognize it when it's not useful to them :)
Originally posted by Kieran
Actually I was thinking of intelligence.
And really... can you imagine, at the end of a hard day's work herding cattle or sheep... sitting around the campfire with your trusty ol' herding cat? ;)
Sincerely I believe dogs think, and cats react instintively.
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Kanth... you're female?
Sexist 101:
Cats are for chicks.
Dogs are man's best friend.
:D
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Kanth
K,
what does it say about you as a pet owner who comes back with a list of pet 'uses'..nothing of friendship or personality.
All of the things you have listed can be done better by machines and they have electronic dogs you can buy these days as well.
The perfect utility.
I know you were talking with your tongue in your cheek, but...
When was the last time an electronic gadget sniffed out the trail of a child lost in the woods? or sniffed out hidden contraban, or even just catch a ball? or helped a blind guy cross a street?
When was the last time a cat pointed and flushed out a quail for the hunter? Or retrieved a duck from a near frozen pond, and then was ready to jump in again immediately? or pulled a sled from Anchorage to Nome?
Come on, there is no contest...
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Personally, I like cats and dogs equally. Only problem is ya gotta marinate the hell out of both or they're really tough.
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Kanth
Wy wife had a cat and we didn't get along. She jumped to my lap and I sleeked her, suddenly, she changed her mind and scratched as hard as she can. That continued long long time, until my wife had to go to hospital for few days and I stayed home with her "pet". I feed her and so on, but when she scratched me again, I started to give back! Believe me, it was hard long fight and couch and other furnitures went upside down. You know you can't change cats mind, but wait.. you can! After several engagements she gave up :D My hands were bleeding, but what the heck, the cat gave up and ever since (until her natural death), she never ever threaten me again. What this proves? It proves that cat has some intelligence or self-protection sense after all. It recognizes, who is the master of the house!! :D
Oh, did I mentioned, I hate cats!!! :mad:
If you want any tips, how to domesticate a cat, just ask ;)
Oh and happy New Year :D
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well I'm speaking of what you want out of your pet really I was just being extreme. If you want the things that dogs do you obviously get a dog, if you want the things that cats do you get a cat so go with goats horses fish and whatnot.
I dont' believe it makes any of them better than the others only different :)
This was my point.
But, along your lines of capabilities, when is the last time a cat killed a child or an adult?
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I know you were talking with your tongue in your cheek, but...
When was the last time an electronic gadget sniffed out the trail of a child lost in the woods? or sniffed out hidden contraban, or even just catch a ball? or helped a blind guy cross a street?
When was the last time a cat pointed and flushed out a quail for the hunter? Or retrieved a duck from a near frozen pond, and then was ready to jump in again immediately? or pulled a sled from Anchorage to Nome?
Come on, there is no contest...
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I hate dogs. Filthy vermin.
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janneh,
this going to sound wierd but your dog looks exactly like my dog minus the head, my dog had german shepard muzzle and eyebrows but same oranges and tail and ears. (he was german shephard chow mix)
Anyhow about when animals attack ;) I had a pure chow for a short time, I'm not sure what was wrong with her she seemed really friendly but out of the blue she'd bite.
I have a scar on my face from her, and she bit my mother as well....now I could deal with the scare on my face, but when she bit my mom I had her put down.
I guess she changed her mind about being friendly once in a while too, only when she attacked me she laid my face open, she didn't just scratch my hands.
they are all individuals and like anyone how you treat them and socialize them will have a great impact on how they are later on in life.
The small dog I had, I got her from a pet store, I found that she had been basically teased from the time she got there, wierd thing is when they teased her she'd get so excited she would start coughing, they diagnosed her with kennel cough and locked her in an isolated room upstairs. This went on for quite a while.
Problem was she wasn't coughing, she was barking because she was afraid or aggressive and their teasing which caused her cough was the worst thing to do. She needed to be socialized and she wasn't.
(she also used to stare at the wall and do other odd things I'll never know what the hell was wrong with her besides behavioral)
I've seen the cats do what you describe, it's unacceptable and I can't imagine my cats ever extending a claw in my direction.
there is a huge owner responsibility to having a pet and it isn't simply feeding it and cleaning up after it.
Originally posted by janneh
Kanth
Wy wife had a cat and we didn't get along. She jumped to my lap and I sleeked her, suddenly, she changed her mind and scratched as hard as she can. That continued long long time, until my wife had to go to hospital for few days and I stayed home with her "pet". I feed her and so on, but when she scratched me again, I started to give back! Believe me, it was hard long fight and couch and other furnitures went upside down. You know you can't change cats mind, but wait.. you can! After several engagements she gave up :D My hands were bleeding, but what the heck, the cat gave up and ever since (until her natural death), she never ever threaten me again. What this proves? It proves that cat has some intelligence or self-protection sense after all. It recognizes, who is the master of the house!! :D
Oh, did I mentioned, I hate cats!!! :mad:
If you want any tips, how to domesticate a cat, just ask ;)
Oh and happy New Year :D
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Originally posted by Kanth
But, along your lines of capabilities, when is the last time a cat killed a child or an adult?
Talk to a pediatrition. I'd venture to say there are more child deaths attributed to cats than dogs. Adults it would be a close call.
AKDejaVu
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Cats are rutabagas.
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At least 1/2 of all dogs are squeakes.
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Kanth, I expected some kind of flame war here, not that kind of reasonable discussion :)
I'm very sorry to hear about your dog attack :(
I guess I got your point, animals will be always animals, no matter how pets they should supposed to be.
Pet is a pet whether it's a cat, dog, crocodile or dragon, we will love them anyway (I still hate cats!).
Happy new year Kanth! :)
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Originally posted by funkedup
I hate dogs. Filthy vermin.
Obviously, you never had your OWN dog, mommy denied it, just try to live with it ;)
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Both dogs and cats are cool.
Specially when raise them together since babies, they develop very different from other dogs/cat.
The cat adopts much of the dogs personality, and vice versa. Resulting in cats that are unusually playful and cheery, and dogs that sit around looking cool.
As for breeds, mongrel black cats are always the best. As for dogs, the Bull Terrier is by far the best dog breed ever.
(http://www.arcobaleno.net/curiosita/bull-terrier.jpg)
(http://www.muttart.com/silver/images/bull-terrier-medium.jpg)
A face only an owner could love :)
Bull Terriers have the best personality a dog could have.
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I would venture to say that, that is incorrect.
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Talk to a pediatrition. I'd venture to say there are more child deaths attributed to cats than dogs. Adults it would be a close call.
AKDejaVu
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I'm not a very good flamer ;)
Happy New Year!!!
Originally posted by janneh
Kanth, I expected some kind of flame war here, not that kind of reasonable discussion :)
I'm very sorry to hear about your dog attack :(
I guess I got your point, animals will be always animals, no matter how pets they should supposed to be.
Pet is a pet whether it's a cat, dog, crocodile or dragon, we will love them anyway (I still hate cats!).
Happy new year Kanth! :)
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Talk to a pediatrition. I'd venture to say there are more child deaths attributed to cats than dogs. Adults it would be a close call.
AKDejaVu
Sorry, as much as I love dogs, I have to correct you that by far there are more children killed by dogs than cats.
But on most instances, the dogs were poorly raised so it can almost always be blamed on people.
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btw I'm fairly certain you are including disease and infection as the causes for the deaths which bumps the cat up as a cause (higher risk of infection with cats) but I'm still going to have to go with dogs as the higher percentage of 'fatalities'.
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nice wrinkle system he's got going there :D
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
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Originally posted by Kanth
btw I'm fairly certain you are including disease and infection as the causes for the deaths which bumps the cat up as a cause (higher risk of infection with cats) but I'm still going to have to go with dogs as the higher percentage of 'fatalities'.
Disease and infection are definately figured in... and it doesn't quite "bump" cats up, it sends them through the roof. To the point that most pediatritians recommend not having a cat around small children (especially while they are still crawling).
If your talking fatal assaults, then dogs will have the higher statistics, though only medium/large dogs. And for that reason... they are larger. Cats are no more/less prone to attack someone then a dog. They just are rarely (if ever) fatal simply due to their size. Its like saying oppossums are sweet because they don't kill as many people as dogs do.
AKDejaVu
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A couple of my favourite quotes:
"Dogs are our link to paradise. They don't know evil or jealousy or discontent. To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden, where doing nothing was not boring--it was peace." - Milan Kundera
"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." - Unknown
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I love dogs my wife and I help with mobil adoptions for thw SPCA
Here in Dallas
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They dont judge they only want love .
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Originally posted by Kanth
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I have to wonder if more LW pilots own cats and more spitfire pilots own dogs..
I have great danes and cats, they eat from the same food bowl.
in the winter the cats will pile on the danes out in the yard.
its funny to watch them get along. You could tell when they had been playing because the kittens would be drenched in dog slober ;->
Anyway I like niks and pee 38s.
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Well this is the dog we looked after this year:
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looks like a good dog swoopy
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Most cats are too small to kill kids and they tend to recognize that kids aren't prey. On the other hand, to a mid sized and larger dog, a small child (1 to 3) is the size of prey -- sometimes they will instinctually snap at a small child. Only a wild or abused dog will kill a child on purpose though. I'm a dog lover and don't have much use for cats, but factz iz factz .
You have to let your dog know that your child is not prey -- dumb as that sounds, its wat u have to do. I have a gang of kids and two large dogs, one male one female. Never had a problem, but I make DAMN certain my dogs know my young ones are their masters. Its not hard, you get your scent on the child by holding it then let the child feed the dog while still holding the child. Still, you have to keep your eyes open. Once the child is a little larger its not a problem unless you have a nutty dog. If you have a nutty dog, then you are probably to blame and both of you should be put ta sleep hahahaah
For adults here's the deal, a cat can't kill you but WOULD if it could, and a dog CAN kill you but won't no matter what!
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And this is the cat
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rc51!!! Damn I am envious! u r a happy man! Great look'n pups!
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Originally posted by Kanth
cats breath, it's worse than dogs breath ANY DAY!
you gotta wonder what the hell is going on in there that can cause that kinda putrid smell :confused:
I think they eat dead mice Cats will line up there trophys in a row. I line of lizards or mice, moles... I seen it all.
They are the proud hunters.
I smelt dog breath that would disentergrate cat breath
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suuuuuuuuuuure.
btw as I've said I'll grant you that infection is higher, but those infections being fatal is a different story entirely.
oppossums are sweet but they poo everywhere.
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Disease and infection are definately figured in... and it doesn't quite "bump" cats up, it sends them through the roof. To the point that most pediatritians recommend not having a cat around small children (especially while they are still crawling).
If your talking fatal assaults, then dogs will have the higher statistics, though only medium/large dogs. And for that reason... they are larger. Cats are no more/less prone to attack someone then a dog. They just are rarely (if ever) fatal simply due to their size. Its like saying oppossums are sweet because they don't kill as many people as dogs do.
AKDejaVu
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pictures please? That's gotta be cute as hell.
Originally posted by X2Lee
I have great danes and cats, they eat from the same food bowl.
in the winter the cats will pile on the danes out in the yard.
its funny to watch them get along. You could tell when they had been playing because the kittens would be drenched in dog slober ;->
Anyway I like niks and pee 38s.
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if you want the things that cats do you get a cat
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what are those again? cats contribute nothing. the only useful thing a cat does is kill mice and rats. and really they mostly do that out of hunger or blood lust, not really out of any sense of duty to you.
I did have a cat once kill a 30# racoon and drag it up on the porch. the cat was missing both ears one eye and most of his tail after the fight, but judging from the dead coon on the porch he won.
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Originally posted by Kanth
btw as I've said I'll grant you that infection is higher, but those infections being fatal is a different story entirely.
KATHMANDU - A Royal Bengal tiger, one of less than 6,000 of the endangered species, has been shot dead in southern Nepal after it killed seven villagers, state-run English-language daily Rising Nepal said yesterday.
May 22, 2002/Mayagüez, Puerto Rico: A 12-year-old boy was scratched on the hand by a jaguar at the Mayagüez Zoo when he reached inside the jaguar’s cage.
May 15, 2002/Romania: A 3-year-old girl was mauled by a 9-month-old lion tied up outside of a shop. The girl, who had tried to play with the lion, required hospital treatment for cuts to her chest, belly, and buttocks.
May 12, 2002/Tampa, Fla.: A 350-pound African lion at Busch Gardens ripped off the arm of a zookeeper standing next to the lion’s cage while she was giving a private tour to her family. The attack occurred shortly after the zookeeper had fed the lion pieces of meat during training exercises.
April 28, 2002/Pickens County, S.C.: According to the Post & Courier, a "pet" tiger was quarantined for biting an 8-year-old boy in the leg after the tiger had been given a bath. The tiger is normally kept in a metal cage in the backyard.
March 6, 2002/Vienna, Austria: While visitors watched, three jaguars at the Schoenbrunn zoo attacked and killed an employee as she was preparing their food and injured the zoo’s director when he tried to rescue the zookeeper.
Damn cats...:mad: tabby is just a few rungs of DNA away... ever wonder why they stare at you?
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doing this will cause you to go blind.
Originally posted by capt. apathy
cats contribute nothing.
the only useful thing a cat does is blah blah blah blah blah
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Originally posted by Kanth
pictures please? That's gotta be cute as hell.
Ill see what I can dig up and scan. I have pics of them all separate
It is cute tho. I have a solid black cat and a black dane, the cat follows the dane around the yard like a mini shadow. Thats fun to see also.
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Cats don’t herd sheep, flush quail, lead the blind, or chase Frisbees. But they do one thing better than almost anything else – kill mice. In fact, cats were first kept by humans because of their benefit through rodent control. Rodents have killed more people and destroyed more property throughout history than all wars combined, primarily by spreading disease and destroying food supplies. Even today, 20% of all human food supplies are destroyed by rodents. A good mouser kills about 500 mice per year and can prevent the potential destruction of 250 tons of human food supplies per year.
A major factor in the spread of bubonic plague in Europe in the 1300s was because the Christian Church decided that cats were evil and almost led to the extinction of cats in Europe. This allowed the rodent population to get out of control (rodent fleas being the main way plague spreads). And until the 1990s, the British navy required their ships to keep cats
I think dogs are great pets, but if you want to argue the benefits to people, cats win hands down.
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Gotta love em....dogs and cats both.
They are different and provide different things to those who have them. I think the purring of a cat is one of the most soothing sounds I have ever heard from any animal.
I have owned both, but currently only have the one cat. She is the oddest cat I have ever had. She likes to play in water, she will arch and growl when strangers come to the door, she sits and begs for treats, and when you tell her NO, she drops her head in shame.
She has a chair in the living room that is her chair and she will let anyone know it if they sit in it.
Very odd.
Oh, if a cat has bad breath it is due to tartar build-up on thier teeth and gums. The saliva from a cat contains a natural enzyme that destroys most odor causing bacteria. This is why thier coats have virtually no odor.
The tartar build-up is usually fom eating too much soft cat food. IAMS or Science Diet is the best food for a cat. The sugar in most cat food will eventually give a cat diabetes....not always,..but I learned this the hard way.
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Speaking of strange pet tricks, I've got a pure bred boxer who swims underwater (voluntarily). Couldn't ask for a cooler dog.
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Got password. Here's a pic of the coolest dog in the world. His name is Max :)
(http://home1.stofanet.dk/stsanta/dog.jpg)
Cute, eh?
Myelo, benefits to humans and cats. Aye, they kill mice effectively. Trained dogs are very good at that too. True, they use brute strength rather than stealth and they have to be proper trained, but at least they CAN be trained. But yes you're right, they've been beneficial to humans.
Also, cats might have been very useful a couple of hundred of years back. They might be quite useful for farmers today. They do as much harm as good though, killing not only rodents but birds etc. In Australia, they're killing endangered species. And they're not really controllable.
It's been mentioned what you can do with a dog *today*. Aside from all the practical bits there is the issue of loyalty and defense. Studies have shown that house cats aren't really that intelligent and that they seem to mentally remain in kitten state for most of their lives. They're social - when it fits them. Which is when they can get something from you. Sort of like my neighbors.
Cats will give you something to occasionally pet. They're so stupid it's not safe to have them outdoors, because they seem to like to be run over by cars. One can argue that this happens more often to cats because they're out more without supervision. OTOH, all my dogs are not on a leash when I'm out with them, and none have ever come close to be run over by a car. Except one who made a mistake as a pup, but luckily got stopped by passers by.
Cats. Egoistical sadistic animals who look incredibly cute and are extremely likeable (I like cats). However they're pretty stupid and of little use uless you're a farmer or live in a country where beubonic plague is breaking out again :)
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HAS DOG BREATH< also has 5 cats, 2 dogs,1 opoossum, dogs stay out side as well as 3 of the cats and the possum,2 cats stay in 1 of them waits by the doors to use the bathroom, the other is to old to go out, i hate litter boxes,and when the old cat dies i will not have one in the house ,litter box that is. AS far as my puppies go one female one male , female is a sweety and a great watch dog, as is one of my indoors cats(growls when some comes up driveway) the other dog male , well he's a good dog cept for he's a humper:D he will hump and damn log with a hole in it if it holds still long enuff, hell the dumb puppy even humper one of my freinds in the ear while he was laying down in grass afteer an exhuasting mountain bike ride, at first he didnt know what was going on till the rest of us started laughing our tulips off,(he thought the dog was licking his ear)hehe :)
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Humping isn't just a strictly sexual behaviour. Even squeakes do it (and now I'm talking dogs, not humans :D). It's also a way of asserting dominance.
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Cats stupid?
Dude have you owned cats?
They are extremely smart.
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btw, you are exactly right, he's an older cat who has eaten dry food all of his life but due to his age he does have some dental issues.
my cat breath remark was only a joke and the owner of the cat with the killer breath knows he needs to take him to the vet for dental care.
mine ate science diet up until a few years ago when we merged cat families and now they all eat iams. (except one with special dietary needs)
If anyone is thinking about getting a manx cat, be sure to check into the constipation and digestion problems of this breed beforehand.
it's a common ailment like hip displaysia for really tall/purebred dogs.
sorry to hear about the diabetes :(
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Oh, if a cat has bad breath it is due to tartar build-up on thier teeth and gums. The saliva from a cat contains a natural enzyme that destroys most odor causing bacteria. This is why thier coats have virtually no odor.
The tartar build-up is usually fom eating too much soft cat food. IAMS or Science Diet is the best food for a cat. The sugar in most cat food will eventually give a cat diabetes....not always,..but I learned this the hard way.
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I've owned several cats. When I say stupid it's compared to dogs. I'm basing this on own observation and scientific studies - will dig up some references for ya.
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My daughter left me with 2 cats 8 years ago.. they are no trouble. I Got this big food dispenser thing that they can eat and drink from any time they like and guess what? They are not so stupid that they will eat themselves to death.
I can leave for three days and not have to make arangements for the cats.
I like the fact that they aren't constantly fawning all over me... I like that in women too. I don't want to ever clean up dog toejam out of the backyard ever again after 14 years of it. I don't want my house to smell like a dog or my fence to get chewed through. I don't want something to depend on me so much that it would die without me.
I don't want to ever have or even see another large dog that is confined to a little tiny apartment or back yard... I don't want to worry if my animal is gonna bite a kid.
lazs
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Oh man, first I meet lazs at the con and realize he's a helluva nice guy. Now, I find out that he sits around at night and cuddles with two cats that his daughter left for him. I didn't even know he had a daughter!
So, let's see.... he's a nice guy, he's a father, he loves cats.
I'm so disillusioned! Life was so simple when I had Lazs pegged as a lonely old curmudgeon wasting away in some po-dunk town.
:D
P.S. I would post a pic of my dog, too, if I had a scanner. Pets are great. They add a lot to quality of life.
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My parents gun dogs 'Drake' (Flat coat retreiver) and 'Robbie' (springer spaniel) theres also another Flat coat called 'Jasper' but I dont have a picture of him.
Robbies the funniest and hes got cool hair which goes blond in the summer :)
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StSanta,
Max is a good-looking dog.
I wasn't trying to start a dog vs. cat debate. I only posted that because of an idiotic statement someone made that cats are useless to people. But if you are going to say that studies show that cats are stupid compared to dogs, I would be very interested in some specific citations.
And just as many dogs get hit by cars as cats, probably more, at least around here. Anyway, the fact that a car hits a pet doesn’t say anything about the pet’s intelligence, just the owner’s.
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Oh no, not another "which is better; cats or dogs" thread!
I've got a fantastic dog, my Australian Cattle Dog....she's my first dog and I love her to bits. Smart, and great with the cats.
Now the cats are indoor fellas, and they were raised by the dog....so they are more "cogs" because they do things I haven't seen other cats do. For example, sure they do the usual things, like chase string and swat feathery toys. But, they come when called, and just can't resist knocking the shampoo bottles off the edge of the tub every day.
The cats don't insist on going outside when its raining, or insist on stomping in every muddle puddle during a walk. Nor that dog smell after running around in the rain. But nothing beats telling the dog you're going for a ride, seeing their eyes light up and away you go, running errands with the dog out front riding shot gun.
Do I have a favorite? Nah....love em both
Chloe....
(http://www.checksix.net/sleepy.jpg)
Cats... Pudgey & Mokey
(http://www.checksix.net/cats.jpg)
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LePaul just curious about your cats
is the left one female and the right one male? are they related?
mine are brother and sister but look nothing alike.
yours remind me of felix the wonderful cat :)
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Originally posted by Kanth
LePaul just curious about your cats
is the left one female and the right one male? are they related?
mine are brother and sister but look nothing alike.
yours remind me of felix the wonderful cat :)
Both male, not related
Got Mokey when he was 3 weeks old...shelter was over full...it was foster/adopt him or he gets put down when i leave. The lil bugger bit me and wouldnt stop purring...admired the attitude and took him home.
Pudgey was in a litter that was dumped at a local Kmart. His brothers and sisters were fine and got homes easily. He was very emancipated and sick, so I brought him home. He was also 3 weeks old and once we got him eating, well, he never stopped. He was a fun kitten, as Mokey was a year old when i got him. Mokey would pick him up by his neck and carry him around. The two are best friends and look alike...its amazing. I so dread the day when one of them departs and leaves the other. But, no worries for now. Its just hilarious seeing those two play. Mokey will be sitting there cleaning himself, all nice and peaceful, when Pudgey will come out of no where and tackle him.
And again, they grew up with the dog, so while they are cats, their attitude and antics are quite different. Im sure anyone else on this list who has cats raised with dogs can attest to how they do not always do cat-like things!
Thanks for the compliment, I'm sure while I'm here at work, one is snoozing while the other is rubbing his chin on my X-45
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I believe that domestic cats are not a breed.. they are exactly the same as wildcats. They will go ferral in one generation. The only difference is that the so called "domestic" cats have developed longer intestines to digest more variety of foods.
banana... If it will make you feel any better.... I am the one who peed in your beer at the con. But you knew that right? I mean... you didn't drink any more after that first sip didya?
lazs
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cats are great to have around if you have a rodent problem..
dogs are great to have as companions
It's pretty hard to take a cat out hiking/fishing/biking/skiing etc.. unless you want to carry around a hairball
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just cuz they can be cute
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here is snuggles
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That's my cats water dish that he's sitting in btw. :D
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The one aboves family =) complete with wierd uncle hehehe
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True story coming...
When my wife and I were engaged, we purchased a small, four-room bungalow (nice starter house). I lived in it a few months before we were married (to get it ready). My wife decided we needed something to care for, so she got a cat. Now I had to live with this hateful little animal alone, and it had a rather disturbing habit of sleeping on my face- you see, the house was without a furnace, and it was October.
Cat grows, wife and I marry, and it wasn't long before she decided one cat was not enough. So, along comes cat #2.
Cat #1 was a full-grown tom, cat #2 was a frisky little girl. Cat #1 ambles into the living room one fine evening. The house was small, and all rooms were connected in the center with doorways that would let you circle the house in about an 8ft turn. In the living room we had all the furniture moved to the outside walls (to save space), and I had taken my place next to the wood stove.
Anyway, the tom drifts into the room the way toms do- you know, pimping, shoulderblades shifting up and down, a kind of cool, gangbanger shuffle. In a chair just above was the kitten, ears flat, eyes wide, tail twitching. Kitten pounces, and the two wrestle momentarily in the middle of the room. Tom finally gains the upper hand, kitten takes a swipe at the tom's face, breaks free, and runs behind the couch, tom in hot pursuit. They exit the other side of the couch and kitten flees toward the kitchen, running behind the refrigerator.
*BAM*
Tom is far too big to fit behind the 'frig, so he bangs his head hard. In the meantime kitten has escaped, and regained her perch.
Into the living room comes the tom, pimping stride as before, shoulderblades shifting. Kitten is on the chair, ears flat, eyes wide, tail twitching. Kitten pounces, and the two wrestle momentarily in the middle of the room. Tom finally gains the upper hand, kitten takes a swipe at the tom's face, breaks free, and runs behind the couch, tom in hot pursuit. They exit the other side of the couch and kitten flees toward the kitchen, running behind the refrigerator.
*BAM*
Tom is far too big to fit behind the 'frig, so he bangs his head hard. In the meantime kitten has escaped, and regained her perch.
This went on for 15 solid minutes. I am sitting there in amazement, thinking "just how stupid can an animal be?" Finally the tom just drifted into another room. Kitten sat there for another 15 minutes with a "Huh? Where'd he go?!" look on her face.
Time passed, and I figured if the wife could have two cats, I could certainly have one dog. So I got one. What a goofy looking mutt! A cross between a beagle and a boxer, full of energy.
Anyway... dog bound into the room with that retarded puppy gait... high bounce, ears perked. Kitten is on the chair, ears flat, eyes wide, tail twitching. Kitten pounces, and the two wrestle for a second in the middle of the room. Dog seemed to say, "All Right!!", flips the cat onto the floor and pins it. Cat in a panic swats dog's face, dog howls, cat runs for the couch. Dog is close behind, but of course is way too big to fit behind the couch. Kitten exits the other side of the couch and runs for the kitchen. Behind the 'fring again, the dog skids to a stop right at the backside of the 'frig. Kitten makes her way back to the chair.
Dog comes back into the room- not bouncing, but with nose down, sweeping the floor. Kitten is on the chair, ears flat, eyes wide, tail twitching. Kitten pounces, and the two wrestle for a second in the middle of the room. Dog seemed to say, "All Right!!", flips the cat onto the floor and pins it. Cat in a panic swats dog's face, dog howls, cat runs for the couch. Kitten exits the other side of the couch and is horrified to meet the dog waiting for her.
That's just one story.
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ROFL Kieran :D :D
Man, I can see that happening before my eyes :D.
I like cats, but I like dogs more. Can't really have a dog here though. Am thinking about a cat though. I just hate worrying about whether it'll get run over every time it goes out.
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Hehe Kieran...here's one back at ya.
Our kitchen floor is tile and pretty slick. We have a cooktop island in there.
(The following used to happen about twice a week)
The dog is laying on the kitchen floor and the cat comes in and swats the dog's tail.
The dog gets up and proceeds to chase the cat. The cat runs around the island, about 3 times while the dog is in hot pursuit. Then the cat jumps up on the island and sits and watches the dog run around the island, until the dog gets dizzy/tired and crashes in the middle of the kitchen floor.
The cat jumps down on the floor, walks by the dog, stops, looks over at the dog, then turns her head away and walks off.
They did this routine for years. Dang mutt never did figure it out.
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Kanth and Krazyhorse..
Be careful..some of these guys around here reached for their guns when they saw those pics.
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Originally posted by StSanta
(http://home1.stofanet.dk/stsanta/dog.jpg)
Cute, eh?
Sure is!
Labs are very beatiful and has good nature. Ppl seems to very often think wrongly about labs, they indeed grow to very big and muscular, they easily pulls 80kg men to the direction they want to go :)
My Nova Scotian Duck Retriver (Nova) weights about 22kg of pure muscles and my wife has some troubles with him. Labs weights about 30 -35kg's I suppose? Lots of more power. Male Nova Scotians are known of their obstinacy and my dog sure is perfect example of it. Good luck with your great dog Santa! :)
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Ok, another true story...
Daughter #1 starts pining for a new pet... we'd never been able to keep a dog for long for a variety of reasons, and we needed something low maintenance. A cat seemed perfect, so, as it is never difficult to find a free kitten, we soon had a black-and-white ball of fur living with us.
And what a playful ball of fur it was! Zipping in and out of the garage, teasing the older cat (which BTW is cat #2 from the previous story), generally making a nuisance of herself. Awwww.
I came home one fine afternoon to see my daughter sitting on the basement couch, the ball of fur lying quietly on a towel spread across her lap, my daughter crying her eyes out. The wife pulls me aside and says, "I think you're going to have to put it down. I was putting down the garage door, and it landed on the kitten's head."
Oh joy! In its short time with us I had already grown to loathe the thing, but my daughter WAS genuinely upset, and I was stricken with mercy, so I replied, "Listen, if I'd dropped a garage door on your head, you would lay still, too. Let's give it a day or two and let's see what happens."
Sure enough, the kitten gets up a day later, and though a bit more skittish about the door, appears none the worse for the wear.
A few days later, I enter the basement to see my sobbing daughter, kitten lying on a towel spread across her lap. My wife once again pulls me aside and says, "I think this is really it. I was backing out of the garage, and I ran over the cat."
Yikes! "Well," says I, "it came out of it the first time, so let's wait again." Sure enough, a day or two later it did get up. Two down, seven to go.
Time passed, winter came, and I had to go into town one snowy night. The way my driveway works, I must climb a hill, then make a sharp 90 degree turn left and climb some more. I had a Ford ZX2, great little cars but horrible on snow. I knew I had to hit my tracks perfectly on the drive or I was going to be shoveling it out- and I didn't feel in the mood to shovel. I must say, I lined up the run perfectly, perfect speed, turned at just the right moment, and I have enough smash to get me into the garage without spinning a tire... ahhhhh......
But wait... what's that? Something is wandering into the tire tracks ahead of me... something black and white. It's... it's sitting in the tire tracks! I watched as the idiot cat totally ignored the car coming directly at her. The headlights grew bright in her face as she began licking her paw to wash herself.
At this point I did what I had to do. I whispered a soft "So long!" and bored on ahead. Yup, two soft thumps later I realized she was a champion chicken player. I get the car in the garage and I immediately felt the pangs of regret. Above me was my family eating supper, and I was going to have to go tell my kids the bad news. I turned back out into the driveway to retrieve the body... but wait, no body! Better than that, no blood! How could this be, I know I hit it!? I backtracked to the cat's footprints, and was shocked at what I saw.
There, in the tire track, was the perfect cat snow angel!
Apparently the snow was deep enough to cushion the impact, and the cat was pushed rather harshly into it. Could it have lived? I looked around for the body, and near a basement window I found her. She was licking the snow off of herself, and had a disgusted look, but was otherwise fine. Three down.
Spring came, and one day I came home to see my daughter standing at the end of the driveway, crying. She was looking up, so I am wondering what could be up there that had her upset. I parked the car, walked down the drive and put my hand on her shoulder. Casting my eyes upward I see it... the kitten, about 40 feet up in a tree. It's far too high and far too far out on a limb for me to even think about climbing up to get. The cat was staying until the cat decided to come down, simple as that.
Well, this is the moment I had waited for all my parent life. After sharing a quiet moment I said to my daughter, "Don't worry, sweetie. Ever see cat bones in a tree?"
The cat stayed in the tree all that day and night. The next day when I came home, yup, she's still there. I decide to try parking my van under the tree (in traffic!) and standing on the roof. I was reaching up with a tree pruner, but it was too far to reach. What I did next was the only reasonable thing to do- I went and got my BB gun.
I'm a pretty fair shot, and since I was only pumping it up once, I figure I could make some noise on the branch and scare her back. I was popping the branch in front of her. Nope. Well, maybe if I pop her butt a few times she might get uncomfortable. Nope. Well, maybe if I peck at her front paws she might back down. This actually almost worked. I alternately stung one paw, then another. She'd lift the paw and shake it, then I'd hit the other. She scowled at me and growled, but it became clear I wasn't going to persuade her to come down that way. She'd have to do it herself.
That afternoon, it stormed. It probably rained an inch in an hour, the cat stubbornly clinched to the limb. Oh well, I had been concerned she might dehydrate.
When I came home from work the next day, the kitten was in the garage, nose skinned up a little, but otherwise fine. The little retard has had other adventures since then, but this is already too long.
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I get the feeling you and I could go at this for a bit Keiran.
I think it safe to say, animals, be they dog or cat, are just as inconsistent in intelligence as people are.
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Here's my girl Sasha when she was just a pup (got her around thanksgiving time). This is the picture the breeder sent me of her at around 6 or 7 weeks old. She's about 14 weeks old now. She's a Siberian Husky btw :)
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Oh btw. Right now I own 3 dogs. I have Sasha the Siberian Husky(she's 14 weeks as I said), Buddy who's a Yellow Lab (5 years old, very loyal breed), and Skittles who's a maltese (10 years old). It's funny watching them, they have like their own little mini-pack. I let em out in the backyard and they try to hunt squirrels or whatever wild animals are out there together as a pack, of course they never really catch anything except sometimes a stick or something :D
I'm gonna post pictures of them when I get a digital camera soon.
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Not meant as a "backatcha" Skuzzy, just one of many amusing experiences with cats. :D
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i love these cat n dog stories ..very entertaining reading thank yall:)
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still waiting for the great dane kitty cat pictures :D
btw that siberian husky is beautiful!!
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Ok.. ever heard of a dog call 911 for his/her own life? on MAX X there was a cat that was choking..being strangled by his flea coller and called 911....
Thats amazing..a deputy came out and rescued ihim.
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Wow, nice Husky Soviet.
They have such crude eyes, don't they :)
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Originally posted by Kanth
still waiting for the great dane kitty cat pictures :D
btw that siberian husky is beautiful!!
I need weeks not days Got 4 rolls of film needs to be deved
now and I gonna finish my roll now with catdogs then ill get it scannered.
:p :p :D :cool:
Love the pics tho community keep um coming. :)
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Sincerely I believe dogs think, and cats react instinctively.
That's where you are very wrong. Cats are just as intelligent as dogs, they just don't show it in the same way. (I've had both cats and dogs I know). Many cats also help providing food to the house (although it's not exactly some kind of nice food they show their will), they often come home with mice etc and put it infront of the door to show that they do their part. They are very intelligent.
Many cats have hell of alot of respect from other animals aswell, a fairly big house cat is nothing a normal dog or even fox etc will attack. Had one in my neighbourhood, it sat somewhere outside and all dogs walked circles around it, even big ones.
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Originally posted by Kanth
pictures please? That's gotta be cute as hell.
Hard to get the little buggers to pose :D
Heres jesse my 1 year old Dane
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Hard to get the little buggers to pose :D
Heres jesse my 1 year old Dane
Ahh crapolas, its too big to load.
Any advice on how to shrink jpg files?
Got a few nice kodaks :)
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You can drop the image size down that'll shrink the file size.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Hard to get the little buggers to pose :D
Heres jesse my 1 year old Dane
Crossing fingers...
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Greykitty after Jesse's been carrying her around :D
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Venus and Boo, Venus is tired of Jesse's crap :p
got a few more will post them tommorow
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Every time I find a present in my headphones I wish I had a dog.
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I have a 16 week old female Yellow Lab...if I can get the pics scanned I'll post them.
She was a gift when my four year old namesake (Sox) had to be put down due to Fibro Sarcoma(very bad cancer)that had spread up her spine despite surgery and chemotherapy.
One I will say though,those who like to state that many deaths are attributed to dog attacks and not cats,you have to factor in one thing-size.
Tell me you would leave a 110 .lb kitty in the same room with a newborn,lol.:eek:
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Heres Oreo aka Dumpsterkitty, named after where I found him.
He thinks Jesse is his personal couch/sleeping bag.
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Might as well showoff Geroge and Rosie too
:D
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kimiko
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kimiko
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Very cute Lee, thanks for posting them :)
Originally posted by X2Lee
Venus and Boo, Venus is tired of Jesse's crap :p
got a few more will post them tommorow
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I'm currently in a house with 3 greyhounds (2 charmers, and one temporary resident whom nobody really likes (=she ate my pie, that squeak!) )
Those things are the cats of the dog world, with two exceptions: like many other sight hounds, they view cats (and small wuss-dogs) as prey. Unlike other dogs, they've got the top speed to catch cats.
Outside of that, total cats. Sleeping in the sun, a few antics, more sleeping. They know their names, but usually don't bother coming. Worthless as guard pets (Except for their sizE)
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Riley- 12 week old Chocolate Lab.
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Originally posted by SLCR
Riley- 12 week old Chocolate Lab.
Hehehe he knows whos ball that is dont he :D
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I like the independent nature and cleanliness of cats, and really dislike the smell in the house from dogs.
But overall,..I like em both,..I am just lazy and hate bathing dogs.
Spoken like a true net admin :)
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I will readily admit that i dont like dogs.
I dont know what it is about dogs, but i just dont trust them. I think it has something to do with the way they move about. It seems that they are always just kind of stumbling around and lunging at everything. They are just unpredictable.
It seems almost everytime i see a dog it will start yelling at me and bouncing around like it wants to do harm to me. I think (make that I know) that they are actually aware of the dislike i have for them and respond accordingly.
Of course not EVERY dog is like this. I get along with golden retrievers just fine for some reason. But that is about the only breed I can handle.
I guess the only other dog i really got along with was a 3 year old rotti named "gunner." The dog was massive and intimidating but had a heart of gold. In fact she was an outright pacifist. It never showed any aggression unless it seemed like two humans were going to fight. She would get right in between the two (or more) people and growl and punch them (yes, not bite, but punch) till the fight was broken up. For a "party house" that was usually full of drunken teenagers, there was never a fight when gunner was around.
I myself have two cats, Thompson Jehovah Chuckledust (orange tabby) and Captain Beauregard Schmoo-Didley (ret.) ( an all black cat.) I wouldnt give them up for the world.
They both have very distinct and pronounced personalities. Tommy is the lazian cat that protects the place from foe, both canine and human. No word of a lie he once woke me up using the cat head ramming method to alert me of a fight that was going on out front of my apartment where it was two on one and the two were brandishing golf clubs. A quick call to the cops prolly saved that poor SOB's life. Once he had gotten me awake he just jumped to the window and started howling. I wouldnt have known had it not been for my cat.
Then there is Beau. Dumb as a bag of smashed hammers but really affectionate. If I am playing AH he is right there on top of the monitor following cons and batting at the mouse cursor. He also appears to understand hockey and always sits down with me on the couch for Saturday night hockey.
Last quirk about Beau is his love of water. He is always in the bathroom when water is running and wont drink out of any sort of water bowl. Just the sink or tub. In fact on one occassion after running a bath then leaving to check my email etc... i came back to find Beau standing neck deep in the tub water with a blissfull look on his face.
I guess i like cats over dogs because of my independant nature. You own a dog, but you roomate with cats.
P.S. Tommy is a huge fan of craggenmore on ice.
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Meosha...
Part coyote (according to the vet), all squeak. On the plus side, she has hated every boy my daughter ever brought home. :)
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And my buddy Bradley.
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When i was little and living on the marine base I wandered away from home to the neighbors dog an afghan hound, very pretty dog so I hung out there petting it and it was very nice..
When I had to leave, like any child would, I went to hug the doggy goodbye..The neighbor rushed me home with a rag trying to stop the blood coming out of my head and I almost lost an eye.
I guess what I'm saying is that the ones that bark don't always bite, and the ones that wag their tails aren't always as nice as they seem.
I still love dogs, cats, horses most of the furries (a few of the non furries like chameleons) but I've been bitten, scratched, kicked and trampled by a few individuals.
Either I'm just stupid and don't learn, or it's the fact that you can find bad apples in everything and good apples as well.
The only thing I will have nothing to do with is big nut-eating birds..they hate me, I hate them it's all good.
Geese, ducks, hawks all of those are good but macaws, african greys, most other sharp beaked pet birds just try to kill me I think no matter how nice I am to them.
Originally posted by loser
They are just unpredictable.
It seems almost everytime i see a dog it will start yelling at me and bouncing around like it wants to do harm to me. I think (make that I know) that they are actually aware of the dislike i have for them and respond accordingly.
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LOSER face it bud you've just had way too many dogs hump your leg:D
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Originally posted by Kanth
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The only thing I will have nothing to do with is big nut-eating birds..they hate me, I hate them it's all good.
Geese, ducks, hawks all of those are good but macaws, african greys, most other sharp beaked pet birds just try to kill me I think no matter how nice I am to them.
hehe I have a conure hes a sweety pie.
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There is no doubt in my mind that he'd go straight for my eyes in a heartbeat. :p
Originally posted by X2Lee
hehe I have a conure hes a sweety pie.
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dogs have owners.
cats have staff.
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dogs show so much more emotions then cats
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"Dogs are yes-animals, for people who can't afford yes-men"
"Cats are poetry in motion, Dogs are gibberish in neutral"
Nah, OK, dogs are alright, if you don't mind the baths, the slobber, the piles of dogshit all over our city, the bad breath, the incessant licking, the incredible amounts of hair shedding.
But don't get a cat if you want companionship, although they are great for finding where the hot water pipes run under the floor.
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Originally posted by bounder
Nah, OK, dogs are alright, if you don't mind the baths, the slobber, the piles of dogshit all over our city, the bad breath, the incessant licking, the incredible amounts of hair shedding.
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I dont think I would have a dog in the city.
If you didnt walk him twice a day it would be cruel.
My dog dont crap in the yard, he goes to the woods.
My cats shed worse than my dogs, hence dog lives inside ,cats live outside.
I was framing a house the other week, the dog who lived next store came out of his yard, all the way across our lot to pee on the portapotty :D
Smart fellow.....
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Dogs and cats both have varied personalities and they both have their merits and drawbacks. I like some types of dogs over others (read: there are some things that are called dogs that shouldn't be); the same goes for cats.
Dogs are pack animals; but cats are used to living in social groups as well. And some cats genuinely care.