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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Mister Fork on January 04, 2003, 01:59:27 PM
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Kuril 1945
This is a classic encounter with the Russian and Japanese forces.
Arena Settings:
Winds enabled
Fuelburn at 1.2
AA at .5
Field capture on
VH Downtime: 15 mins
AA Downtime: 15 mins
Hangar Downtime: 30 mins
Knights: Japan
Bishops: Russia
Plane Set
Japanese: A6M2, A6M5b, B5N2, D3A1, Ki-61, Ki-67, Nik2-J. Lend-lease: TBM
Russian: Il-2, La-5FN, La-7, Yak-9T, Yak-9U. Lend-lease: A-20, B-26.
Vehicles:
All vehicles are avalable except the Tiger for the Japanese.
Russian Tigers are enabled at a cost of 10 perkies each.
Happy Hunting!
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mna, it'd be kind of nice/decent if some comparable plane was found in the plane set that would represent some of the later war jap planes and be skinned that way. like the tojo, the jack, uhhhhh
as it stands, the japs have almost no chance.
:(
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Tojo, and Jack were good planes but both were superseaded by the George and Ki 84 which prety much out preform or meat both of those planes in most areas except climb, the Jack was discontuned in production in favor of the George because the Navy felt it was a better fighter. The A6M5 we have is also a late war Japanese fighter. Realy all we cold hope for in terms of a preformance increse is the Ki 84 and even then it would be a marginal one over the George. The enemy planese were for the most part Just faster for the Japanese.
Ya they have a chance I ran this set up before and they hold their own prety well aganst those Rusian planes the only real advantage they have is spead and thats not everything.
Jack:max spead 370mph aprox
Tojo:aprox.375mph
George:370mph aprox
Frank: 388mph
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You misspelled n1kj-2 .
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It would be nice if the folks who really are good at the game would take a chance and fly the slightly inferior planes rather than always go with the sure (sic) bet.
FWIW, I like the russo planes better overall but the difficulty of opposing those planes in the japanese rides is motivating for me.
I also like this terrain. Nicely done.
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I'm a fan of fast hard hitting planes myself, but I can't say I feel overmatched in the n1kj-2 vs. LA-7's and Yak-9U's. Either of those two (and in particular the LA-7) only get one mistake vs. the Nik.
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NUTTZ did a wounderfull Job on the Map.
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I think the re-build times are way too short.
Even with the Cruiser guns I couldn't keep the depot down. The first things I hit were rebuilding as I finished up on the last buildings.
Any return trips you make to a base, everything that you killed is back up.
eskimo
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Had a go on this one last night and it's the first CT in a long while I haven't enjoyed. This was mainly because it was just like being in the MA--an LA7 and Nik-fest. I flew the Japanese side and I almost felt like saluting anyone who was flying anything other than an LA7--of course there was no danger of my arm getting tired.
The terrain is spectacular and the map design in terms of a variety of interesting fights, strat elements etc., is excellent.
I'd suggest that the next time we do this we take out the LA7. The LA5 is almost as good, and makes for a good fight with the N1K. If you took out the N1K it would still be a good set-up, but I think the Japanese forces would still be slightly over-matched.
Say again, though, another awesome map. The quality of the work being done for the CT now is extraordinary. Atmospheric, and also supporting great fights: that's a tough one to pull off.
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This map is about 10 months old now Nuttz made it last winter for the CT it is on its 5th run in the CT now.
The Planeset and the map are all historical, and dipct the Soviet Invashion of this part of Northern Japan In Augast 1945.
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Bug found: Southwest rearm pad at A5 does not function, and if you leave the plane while on the pad, it's scored as a ditch.
As too the mismatch between the Russian and Japanese: The Russian aircraft are forced to play hit and run... Should one blow their E, they die in short order.
My regards,
Widewing
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TY Widewing for the heads up on the Terain bug.
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This is my favorite setup in the CT thanks for bringing it back its not all bad I find it very challenging to fly Japanese planes aginst these russian speed deamons if you ever slow one down its an easy kill.
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I had fun in a yak last night. I have to admit nothing turns me away faster than russian planes, but this doesnt seem tooo bad. The rough part is the ijn have to sit and wait for a mistake, as they dont have a chance at speed and alt with the yak or la7. Even niks dropping from alt dont have a chance as they compress so quickly.
Not saying they will end up dead, just not easy kills.
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Think it is a pretty fair matchup, I have been flying the Japenese planes and seem to be able to hold my own against the LAs and the Yak, and for me that is something, hell I cant even get a kill in a Hellcat anymore but seem to do pretty good with the Japenese planes, Hmmmm maybe i need to think this over. As easy as i am to kill makes me a little excited to get 3 or 4 kills on a sortie, course it helps that Eskimo has been flying on the same side, hehe!
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Cool , it is good to hear that you guyes are having some fun:)
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Originally posted by brady
Cool , it is good to hear that you guyes are having some fun:)
the rebuild times are definetly wayyy too fast. Nowhere near what is stated above. :mad:
Plane match is okay, but I still would like to see the Ki-84 really soon. Better yet, the A26 Intruder would be a great low alt JABO attack plane to add. :D
Over all "fun factor" of 8 for me. Despite my rants and raves when I'm flying one-eyed and bleary tailed. :cool:
Oh... Is there a spell checker in this thing somewhere? MEET, not meat.... Invasion vs Invashion.... Odee, not dumbarse... etceteras. :p
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YEah rebuild is really toasted. I think anything faster than 40 minutes in the ct with a big map is too fast.
Get a load of this, last night we had a couple of people (dlamba/aka jb79, and trukill aka probably younger then dlamba) playing some interesting games. Trukill, sitting as a knit, would blow up his own vh. then JB, as a bish, would come in with a goon. Maybe we should fix the kill your own vh bug.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
YEah rebuild is really toasted. I think anything faster than 40 minutes in the ct with a big map is too fast.
Get a load of this, last night we had a couple of people (dlamba/aka jb79, and trukill aka probably younger then dlamba) playing some interesting games. Trukill, sitting as a knit, would blow up his own vh. then JB, as a bish, would come in with a goon. Maybe we should fix the kill your own vh bug.
I had several discussions with these young men about this sort of behavior. They asked me for help learning how to bomb and so on. So, I agreed to join their squad short term to try and guide them, not only for training, but to instruct them in proper CT manners, organizing missions and the like. When Trukill violated the unwritten rules governing advantageous side switching, I then switched sides and killed him myself! After that he generally behaved himself.
I know that Jb79 has a reputation as being a silly kid and loose cannon. But, so what? He's just 14! Ya gotta cut kids this young a little slack. Both of these kids really want to excel at the game. Both are willing to fly any mission, do whatever is required to get the job done. No, they're not as dependable as adults.. I don't expect them to be.
By the way, reflect back to when you were 14, and think how you would respond to being handled roughly by adults. Some of the stuff directed at these kids in the text buffer was way over the top and makes me think some of our adult players have some growing up to do as well. If you're annoyed 'cause they managed to kill you a few times... Well, get over it for cryin' out loud!
If and when they do something inappropriate, calmly explain why that is not acceptable, rather than rant, call names or otherwise carry on. You'd be surprised how willing they are to accept gentle correction, rather than beating them over the head.
Jb79 told me his goal was to have the top ranked squadron in the CT. Granted, he has a couple cheat tainted field captures, yet think what you will of these kids, but as of this morning, he DID have the top ranked squadron....
I'll bet that really burns some buns! :eek:
My regards,
Widewing
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Yeah, glock was out of hand. I am not sure he is all that much older than the two kids in question. I told him to just let em burn out on it but he was pretty pissed.
I only got you involved when I noticed you were part of the squad! ouch.
I am not sure anybody in the ct gives much of a care to squad ranks, but all power to em! It should not be a difficult goal to reach and maintain.
I just hope they understand that resets crash the CT. And this is fair warning about how pissed I will be if I log in for squad night on tuesday or thursday only to find those two milkrunning in a toasted arena.
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just did a little snooping.
Check this out (can ya tell I am eating lunch?)
jb79 has 34 kills on truekill
truekill has 1 kills on jb79
All of these kills were dlamba flying a nik and jb79 in a b26. This is with a total of 3 hours of fighter time.
edit:oops convert jb to truekill.
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Onerealy Nice thing about this map is that the rook(the odd country) bases is way the heck and gone like 4 sectors fromanything so taking it is kinda hard.
A long time ago I was in a Squad Called the Night Hawks, great Buch of guyes realy, We had a 12 year old and an 8 year old in the Squad, the 8 year old was booted for some reasion not shure what realy kinda hapened before I jopined I think, at any rate he used to lead and make mishions in the MA all the time and was suxcessfull at doing it, I remember one guy in our squad saying on RW I wounder what all thoes gues in that Mishion would think if they Realised an 8 year old was leading them.:)
Were all kids realy.:)
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Yeah sometimes it is good to help them, but in the long run I have found that having a 18 or older rule in a squad is good. We have one member who is younger than that, but he is well mannered.
Really most of the fun in these games are the interactions with other people, and just the same as I dont hang out with my undergrads at the bar, or go to their parties, I would rather not spend time with 12 year olds during my favorite hobby.
erg
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Were looking at the down time issue, all the downtimes in the Object setings apear to corect acording to the above list, howeaver the Down time mulitiplier is off and is aparently giving shorter downtimes this will be adjusted.
SRY.
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How does that work? What does the multiplier do?
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Originally posted by ergRTC
just did a little snooping.
Check this out (can ya tell I am eating lunch?)
jb79 has 34 kills on truekill
truekill has 1 kills on jb79
All of these kills were dlamba flying a nik and jb79 in a b26. This is with a total of 3 hours of fighter time.
I have checked the stats and find this unacceptable cheat/score-whoring. Having already discussed this with these gentlemen, it seems that they prefer to "game" their way to good scores, rather than earn them through performance.
So, I will immediately withdraw from the squadron and that will pork their overall score..
Apparently these guys need fulltime supervision to keep them from getting into mischief, and I haven't the time for that.
It's unfortunate that they place score above honesty....
My regards,
Widewing
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That is too bad to hear they were not willing to behave otherwise, maybe your action will show them otherwise. If they ever do turn around though, I forgive and forget easily. When they want to play the game, I wont hold it against em....
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Hey WW, yer always welcome at our camp stove. Ole Rosie's a great cook ya know...! ;)
And here she is herself.... riding with Estes...! :eek:
(I had to use the long shot since her scantily clad self would cause bowel uproar at HTC HQ if they saw her closer.)
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Sorry you had to do that WW i had a little conversation with one of these gents earlier, just couldnt seem to register that rank doesnt necessarily mean good pilot, but he informed me that it was his goal to be #1 so I just let it go, didnt think he understood that being #1 is ok but how you get there is what really matters. Remember the Hellcats are always looking for some good sticks so if you are interested let me know.
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I have to agree with HFMudd, one bad mistake in either and you are dead. In the Yak, however, if u dont get too slow at least you can run...George vs Yak, La's not much different than the A6M5 vs F6F.
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we had a great night for squad night in this setup, but we were very careful and organized. In our two sorties, I think we only lost 1 pilot.
After the toejam hole, I mean ma crashed, we switched sides, and I have to say, it was pretty damn hard for a zero to survive against 2 la7 and 3 la5s with a yak enema.
erg
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ergRTC, sry I never answered you question, in the areana setings their is a variable for downtiems, typicaly we have it at"1.0000", but for some reasion it was at .6 which when set aganst a downtime for say the field objects which is in another section and seperate of 30 min yealded a true down time for them of 18min, a problem I totaly overlooked since we hardely ever adjust the Areana setings, i apoligise for the eror, and inconvieance.
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Odee, HiJack, I truly appreciate the kind offers. Moreover, my primary rides in the MA are Grumman Ironworks products (F6F and FM-2). I supplement those with the Zero and Ki-61. So we all gravitate towards similar types!
As it is, I set up my MA squadron for the CT. We're the =Ghosts=, an old and respected AW squad. I never flew AW, but was one of the original AH members. Eventually, I expect to have all 27 members flying in the CT, at least on a part-time basis. oVENOM came over last night and really enjoyed himself. The only new rule that will apply to the CT will be that a member must be a member of the MA squad as well. This is so that they can train with us and learn to fly as part of our team, which has some outstanding pilots, Hammer and Blazes being among the deadliest in the game.
Anyway, thanks again for the generous offers!
My regards,
Widewing
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hehehe
jb79 is about 10 years old i think .. or at least sounds that way on vox and acts that way in MA
haven't seen him in CT, when I do I'll be sure to be on the opposite side :)
In MA after bragging about being the cv commander (wondered how he got the score after watching him fly - now I know), he called the rooks morons because he didn't get his check 6 fast enough. So I gladly checked 6'd him for about the next two minutes straight- every time i saw him - as fast as my button would go, whether he needed it or not :)
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God Bless ya Eagler, wish the price would go back to 40 bucks a month, alot more adult then, well age wise anyway hehe!
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Glad to hear that Ghost, we can always use more squads in the CT, will be a pleasure to fly with you and against you
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