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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: beet1e on January 07, 2003, 04:47:17 AM
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dowding was right, so time for a change -
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At first, when you started posting on this board, I thought you were just teasing our Yank friends. You know, harmless banter between people who recognise it as harmless banter. I even defended you a couple of times when American tards (who are a minority, it must be said) seemed to take it all a bit too seriously.
As time as gone on, though, I have started to think your threads are less and less light-hearted in intent and more antagonistic and self-agrandising. You resemble a British version of Lazs in some respects, with every thread you post. Moreover, the minority of American tards who perhaps have an axe to grind against anyone with a contrary opinion became more vocal. You even antagonised people who wouldn't normally be bothered by your particular spiel.
The issue of guns is a complete non-issue to me and many Brits. We couldn't care less. I'm amazed you're so caught up in it. Let US citizens kill each other to their heart's content. Frankly, I couldn't care less - internal US affairs don't bother me in the slightest, unlike US foreign policy which is fair game.
This thread is the icing on the cake for me. It is utter bollocks. Take away the smilies, because you can no longer hold onto the 'light-hearted banter' ground with any credibility. Re-title this thread "I am Beetle, hear me roar" and call a spade a spade for once.
You, sir, are a bit daft.
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I wrote a post once on the expatica website for British ex-pats living in Holland. Said that all Cloggies were two faced xenophobic numpties with as much common sense as your average lemming and I couldnt understand how the country made it outta the stone age, oh and btw just ignore em when they tell ya you've gotta pay for residency permits and register with local police just to get a bank account. It got 1000 replies and 15,000 views, but that doesnt mean it still wasnt all bollocks written with plenty of comedy effect.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
P.S. Um......this was shortly after some Cloggy published a very long piece in a Den Haag newspaper claiming that all British workers in Holland are thieving lazy scum who should be sent back where they come from cos they drive up housing costs. As you can understand, I was a little pissed.
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Hehe, dowding. I agree with a lot of what you say. Bollocks it may be, but people still read it.
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Dowding, that pretty much expresses exactly the way I feel about it (except I don't see Lazs that way). I don't see much light-hearted in it anymore- in fact, I see a real mean streak.
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Kieren - referring to the UK as a 'pissant little country' is what I'm talking about when it comes to lazs. He does exactly what beetle does, just with fewer words.
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I hate France.
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Beetle went from readable to embarrassing for me a while back.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I hate France.
me too
it's just a country full of little pissant extraordinaires !
and commie too I bet
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Beetie, beat your chest a little harder and your lungs will be plastered on he wall behind you.
Where I live, such behaviour is considered extremely bad manners. Despite your aversion to most things American, it is perhaps ironic that their 'flaunt it if you got it' philosophy would go hand in hand with your current behaviour. :D
Hell, I appreciate you teasing the yanks. I appreciate the yanks teasing Europeans. It's all good fun. But if you start to think you're somehow very important because lots respond to your posts, think again. You're never going to be anywhere near as important as I am. And you'll never match my masterpiece - the crossbuster incident, which happened quite by accident (and sorta upset people I dinnae wanna upset). But of course, feel free to try. ;)
Bigheaded Beetles are to be crushed under the boots of Barons with big arses. It's always better to have a big arse than a big head.
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It's always better to have a big arse than a big head.
LOL! What if you've got both?!
Naah, you're right, and Dowding's right.
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Originally posted by beet1e
In several recent threads, I have noticed two things. One is that more than one person has voiced the opinion that what I think is irrelevant. And the second thing that I have noticed is that in various threads which I have read but added nothing, my name gets mentioned – a lot! In this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74822) alone, there are 16 occurrences of my name, and yet I have posted nothing in there! Some of those occurrences have arisen from quoting/requoting, but I was still damn impressed. :)
It is arguable that what I think, in isolation, is irrelevant. I don’t occupy a position of power such as government office, and mine is only one voice in a country of more than 56,000,000 voices, or in a world of some 6,000,000,000 voices. I’m not sure how many people read this BBS, but it could be anything from 1,000 to 10,000, as not all readers add posts of their own.
And yet – my posts are read by many! 1500 so far have wanted to see how my lunch went on Saturday – lol! Not bad readership for one whose thoughts are irrelevant. :D
Of course, my fan club will be quick to point out the “real” reasons that my posts are read – can’t wait to find out. And most replies will come from America, even though most people there are still asleep as I type this.
I’m also noticing that various people say that I want guns to be banned. I may have voiced opinion on the folly of unrestricted arms proliferation amongst civilians, and I’ve certainly made observations as to what can happen as a result, but I don’t recall saying words to the effect of “guns should be banned”. Perhaps someone could post a URL pointing to where I’ve said that? But wait... what I think is irrelevant, so perhaps no-one will read this thread...
Don't flatter yourself in regards to the number of replies your posts get here.
If I went onto a BB that was a majority UK and posted in a similar manner, I bet I would get just as many..... probably many more. I wonder how polite the Brits would be to me after I posted a few friendly "observations" about them and their country.
Why don't you repost some of your posts onto a BB that is primarily UK and see how many replies you get there.
You think you get replies because you are making interesting points?
You and I know why you post your American fetish stories..... attention.
You relish the responses you know you are going to get and fashion your stories accordingly...... it's not rocket science.
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I have far too much pity for my english fathers to bash them on matters involving intellectual acumen. Besides, I find the advice of hobbits far more useful and pertinant.
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I believe that my name get's mentioned in threads even more than yours.... difference is.... you are wrong and you get your bellybutton kicked. If I got my bellybutton kicked as much as you I certainly would be hesitant at declareing victory.. I am starting to wonder if you are just not real bright. At first I thought that you were just so self absorbered or so.... foreign... that you just didn't get it when people were laughing AT you or when you were getting your bellybutton kicked but now.... I think that you may just be kinda.... slow witted.
dowding... you mean that little island is not a "pissant" little country in the grand scheme of things?
lazs
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In the grand scheme of things? Do you mean Europe, the World, the Universe or all time itself? I'll assume the second one, since only you would consider a nation to be worthy of consideration in the latter category.
With the fourth largest economy in world, cultural influences that are still felt across the globe and one of the only countries giving any support to the US in the 'War on Terrorism' (TM), what do you think?
BTW, that's a rhetorical question.
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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
one of the only countries giving any support to the US in the 'War on Terrorism' (TM), what do you think?
humm ... you really wan't to know ?
Opportunist ... :D
Btw it's a nice move as your oil will cost lower than our ;).
completly forgot to add "emoticon" my post sounded more rude than I wanted :(
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To put "fourth largest" into context one needs to see who is fifth or sixth and the GNP numbers for say... the top ten.
don't get me wrong... I think england would make a great amusement park if we could maybe put a roof on it.
lazs
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^^ Another jingoistic salamander who acts as if the accident of his birthplace entitles him to take some credit for it's current greatness. Carry on, you're in good company it seems. :rolleyes:
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Beetle...YAWN! :) We've all been spoiled by Airhead...your herrings are old and smelly! :p
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What Dowding said...
I don't know much about how things are over there, but I do like reading your takes on the current politic situations, etc. Beetles posts just went beyond negative and into deep bashing for me...especially the whole bit where he wanted only European replies, but felt compellted to comment on US issues.
I dunno, guy just strikes me as a bit elitist. I could be wrong. "Chat" personalities and real life personalities can often be quite different. We see this shortly after the Cons where people who thought they'd despise one another turn out to be great friends after all.
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LePaul - fair enough. I've decided to be nice from now on. It can be hard when there are so many against you, but I enjoyed the challenge, even if it made me feel like Arthur Scargill (dowding will explain). I still don't think that my posts were the worst - after all, I never had a thread locked, and I remember a time when several were locked every day. Deep bashing? Not intentional, but the very fact that it was perceived as that was a good enough reason for a change in direction.
And now we'll have to stand aside while dowding & lazs slug it out...
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personally I look forward to reading all of these posts.. it's entertaining at times
when I tire of them I simply log off and don't read them...
Besides, I think a lot of us 'enjoy' the back and forth banter as long as it isn't mean-spirited
Hell, I'd probably even have fun hanging with beetle if you can imagine that... lazs too, although in entirely different ways... as long as he drove that bad-ass muscle car here that is :)
Swoop.. drop me a line. I have an update on rooms here at Snowmass.
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"Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who read too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking." - Albert Einstein
I need to lay off this board a while.
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Blind ignorance made that challenge a bit easier for your beetle.
And nobody was against you until you pitted yourself against everyone else.
Trolling for reaction so you could criticize those that reacted, and failing to realize that people were actually defending blatant trolls.
Ah well... so many on the BBS seem to really like that kind of thing. I suppose you'll be back into form just as soon as you grow tired of being non-inflamatory. But then there's not much about you that a little preparation H wouldn't fix.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
personally I look forward to reading all of these posts.. it's entertaining at times
when I tire of them I simply log off and don't read them...
Besides, I think a lot of us 'enjoy' the back and forth banter as long as it isn't mean-spirited
Hell, I'd probably even have fun hanging with beetle if you can imagine that... lazs too, although in entirely different ways... as long as he drove that bad-ass muscle car here that is :)
Swoop.. drop me a line. I have an update on rooms here at Snowmass.
Hey, throw that data on the room rates this way, we're refinancing at 5.25% (0 POINTS! from a 6.75% 30 yr.) and going from a 30 to a 15 yr loan, might have some pocket change in Febuary!
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It is funny, even most of your own countrymen hold you in sad contempt now.
I said you where like the kid in school who was convinced that everyone thought he was cool, because everyone made fun of him and played pranks, but in reality everyone just wanted them to grow up and go away(mostly)
Jeez, your head must be so big now, "look at me, look at me I got 1500 reads!! I am so cool!"
I read your threads to watch what everyone else says, not your drivel, I skim yours.
I am sure this web board for me and for most posters here is just a distraction from a boring day at work, you act like it's your life.
You also seem like a coward when you mention Nuke's post, and how much you get mentioned in it, but do not bother to reply when it is all aimed at you.
You really show how much class you have, or maybe lack. :confused:
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Rip, drop me a line ntucker@tosv.com (work addy)
I am sure this web board for me and for most posters here is just a distraction from a boring day at work
sooooooo true
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AKDV, GTO et al - get it all out, guys, let it all go ;)
BTW, AKDV - you made a few references to Staga - is that someone pretending to be me, or did someone think I was pretending to be Staga? I don't know this person, and therefore cannot evaluate these references.
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Hey Beatle, maybe you should change your handle until all the ruckus dies down.
Pick out a handle that suggests love, compassion and understanding... pick the handle of a former poster who was respected for his kindness to his fellow posters, who was well liked, who never hurled an insult, who was a man among men...change your handle to Elfenwolf. It will improve your image. ;)
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Hehe, dowding. I agree with a lot of what you say. Bollocks it may be, but people still read it.
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something to think about-
Just because you have their attention, doesn't mean you have their respect.
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Airhead - thanks for the advice. I tried to change it to elfenwolf, but was told that it was already taken. :)
Capt. Apathy- I wouldn't mind discussing this with you via private emails, if you're up for it. I agree with what you say - it's obvious without you saying it, but respect is a two-way street, if you take my meaning.
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LoL beet1e was not even close to being in elfenwolfs league!
Elfenwolf was great, funny, witty, awsome.
beetle is just kind of sad.
Beetle, what you still seem to not get is you lack credibility anymore, most of us do not like or respect you much anymore, and many of us will not forget.
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lol airhead
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GTO -
You also seem like a coward when you mention Nuke's post, and how much you get mentioned in it, but do not bother to reply when it is all aimed at you.
I have reread that post, and can tell you that the flames are above rooftop level. The personal insults are flying thick and fast. We have one Brit calling an American "hypocrisy personified". Even the word "vitriol" is mentioned. We have guys insulting the government organisations in other countries, we have guys calling eachother nasty names, folks making unfair remarks against women, distasteful jokes abound...
...and I have not said a single word in that thread. So I am not to blame for what's going on within it. I have decided to keep my head down! But now you are insinuating that the thread was directed at me, and that I should feel obligated to join in.
:confused: What to do! I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't.
There's a few new names come up that I haven't seen before though. Crowbaby seems to be holding his own, and Angus the Icelandic farmer.
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I would not bother with it now, if I where you.
Just do as you said you would and stop the B.S.
I think you may, but not for long...
I think you have come of as a banana for so long now, that's all anyone will ever think of you.
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GTO -
I think you have come of as a banana for so long now, that's all anyone will ever think of you.
Things are not always as they seem. I may have pissed off a few, but I'm no worse than Lazs or Dago. Anyhow, I had not been into the AH MA for a week or two, so decided to log in this evening. Did I get ostracised? No. I made a few jokes on voxx about being the guy most people would want to shoot down, and they were well received. Most of the guys who laughed were American/Canadian, and surprisingly (even for me) people seemed to be more helpful than ever, with 6 calls, assistance etc. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm just saying how it was. People seemed amused, and there was no bitterness at all.
Thing is, I could get into a good rant on AGW in my WB days, and whereas I'd have about a dozen guys shoot me down on the BBS, at a social occasion or at a con, I'd get dozens of guys coming up to me saying "loved your post about xyz", or words to that effect.
Anyway, I think I know what it was in particular that pissed you off, and if it's what I think it was, I was not the one that originally identified those particular groups, but I'm not trying to evade the responsibility for saying what I said.
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Heh..he's sounding more and more like bobn.
Daff
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"Hahaha! You really got them going... that was great!"
Some people just never get tired of hearing that I guess. The trouble is, the more you do it, the more retarded you look. Eventually you end up looking like airhead on the 3 or 4 occasions he tried to get people to take him seriously.
I'm always amazed at people that take pride in illiciting a reaction... as if that is supposed to be difficult.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by beet1e
...and I have not said a single word in that thread. So I am not to blame for what's going on within it. I have decided to keep my head down! But now you are insinuating that the thread was directed at me, and that I should feel obligated to join in.
:confused: What to do! I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't.
Beet1e he didn't say you were to blame for the contents of the thread...... he asked why you didn't reply, when the thread was directed at you..... and it was directed towards you.
The title of the thread is a quote from you, and I asked why Beet1e felt there was a need for a gun ban. Seems pretty much to be a question to you based on a quote from you........ nice dancing around the obvious though.....
Anyway, I know you are playing nice now so I don't need to flog you to death over things you said in the past.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Eventually you end up looking like airhead on the 3 or 4 occasions he tried to get people to take him seriously.
Whan did I ever try to get people to take me seriously??? Sheeesh, I musta been drunk.
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Only reason why I decided to stick around the O-Club. :D
Thing is, I could get into a good rant on AGW in my WB days, and whereas I'd have about a dozen guys shoot me down on the BBS, at a social occasion or at a con, I'd get dozens of guys coming up to me saying "loved your post about xyz", or words to that effect.
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Daff! u bastige! That made me feel quite ill - like death, in fact. Good job I didn't fly Phantoms in the VN war - lol. I had dinner with bobn one evening. In person he was as nice as pie. I met him only once.
NUKE - OK, fair dos. And I am playing nice now. It doesn't matter now, and I don't want to labour the point for fear of it blowing up into another gun debate, but I never said we needed a gun ban, and as to the US I never said I was in favour of a ban there. I only made observations/speculations about the status quo. As to the British ban, I put my hand on my heart and say I didn't even know we'd had a ban - lol - until we started talking about all this on the BBS. That's how much of an impact it made. On the other hand, I was very much aware of the beef ban, and banning of beef on the bone!
For some reason, everyone is being super nice to me in the MA right now. Would I like assistance? You're welcome, any time, bro, any time. Good evening, Goodnight.... check 6 etc. :eek:
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Yes... that's it bobn..er beetle... everyone secretly agrees with you because you are so .... "eloquent"... It is just a very small, vocal fraction of the community that thinks you are a pompous blowhard. I would ignore all the direct comments to your posts and base everythijng on how you percieve yourself to be treated in the (holy of holies) MA if I were you.... sure... some may call that delusional but they are just jealous.... It happens to all beloved people.
lazs
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"banning beef on the bone"
ok... I'm not going there (I guess)
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Actually, the thread title cannot be any better stated.
Cobra