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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Dnil on January 08, 2003, 04:06:54 PM
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Did some more research out at the museum today. No dice on any brewster buffalo information, was told they don't have any and if I had some they would gladly take it.
2nd. mk. 30 torpedo director, no info on this either. Seems they are short on gunsight info. Just found a blurb on its use but not on how to operate it. Tracking it down now.
3rd. Found an aircrewman information manual on all turrets operation and training. Shows training info on shooting and turret operation. Also all info on hand operated guns also. Plus has gunsight operation on all systems to. I am having this whole manual reprinted for me.
4th. Will be posting a document on an additional loadout for the TBM. I don't know if it has been brought up or not but she had the option for gunpacks under the wings. 2 guns under each wing with 375 rounds of ammo per gun. Nice compact option to.
More stuff to follow, when I get more time.
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I have my dad's gunney manual, which goes into nauseating detail on turrets and their operation. At least the turrets found on heavy bombers...
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...you have any info about TBMs using big arnold 'tiny tim' rockets? I've read about it in one source & i've also read tiny tims were on board CV-13 when it was bombed in march '45 & VT-5 was on board at that time too w/ TBFs...SB2C-3s were on board too & i've seen pix of both planes loaded w/ that rocket (& f6f also, probably some VF squad was on board too)...
sb2c launching tiny tim
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1944/SB2C_Tiny-Tim_rocket.jpg)
f6f w/tiny tims
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1944/F6F-5_Tiny-Tim_HVAR_Harvey-Field.jpg)
TBF loaded w/ tiny tim
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1944/TBF_Tiny-Tim.jpg)
...also f4u-1d w/ tim (i've seem pix of f4u-4 w/ two of 'em)...
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1945/F4U-1D_Tiny-Tim_lanyard-reel.jpg)
...& what the hell - PBJ-1H (B-25) w/ tiny tims & 75mm
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1945/PBJ-1H_2-Tiny-Tim_Harvey-Field.jpg)
mitchells carried 4 of the rockets... 1 outboard of each engine too...
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1945/PBJ-1H_Tiny-Tim_Harvey-Field.jpg)
...rockets w/ 500lb warhead could really help in avoiding those ninja flak gunners...
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--- Dnil: ---
No dice on any brewster buffalo information
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NASM has F2A-1 service acceptance trials. Can't remember the cost per page nor the total length. Think it was as long as few hundred pages. It should be quite easy to derive 239 based on that.
// fats
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all tbm stuff I have been looking through is dated from 1942 to 1944, all originals. Even looked throught he Bureau of Aeronautics Preliminary flight handbook. This may be before the Tiny Tim period. I will look up info on that next time I go (monday).
It may be the same manual puck. Once I get it I'll post a couple pages to see if its the same.
Once again guys any Navy stuff you need looked up let me know.
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Don't know if this is any use, but you can get a Buffalo manual here:Buffalo Manual (http://www.danford.net/buffpilotmanual.pdf)
In fact, the site that hosts that has a ton of links to various documents and reports on This page (http://www.danford.net/buff.htm)
For something more technical, there's this: NACA F2A turn performance (http://members.tripod.de/luftwaffe1/aircraft/navy/F2A3_turning.pdf)
And, as uual, there's some modelling stuff at Il2 Centre (http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/Finland%20Brewster%20Fighter/)
Sorry to give you links, but everything i've got's too big to post.
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Dnil, your down by the Naval Air Musuem aren't you?
Two things I'm looking for if you get a chance. But they're not WWII related.
1.) F4E/J Phantom II Flight Manual with the performance sections (If they have them available for sale, I don't mind buying one).
2.) Aerial photo's of any of the major North Vietnamese airfields during 1965-1973. Just trying to get a feel for how they were laid out at each field. I have the names at home, but not here at work.
If you get a chance to look, great, if you don't I understand ! :)
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NV air fields around the Hanoi area, from the book Thud Ridge...
Phuc Yen: 5 miles or so S of Viet Tri
Kep: 40-60 miles NW of Haiphong, 50 miles E of Viet Tri
Hoa Lac: 20 some-odd miles S-SW of Viet Tri
A quick web search came up with this one...
Gia Lam: NE edge of Hanoi
That's all I could find on short notice, fellas. Hope it helps!
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I want tiny tim !!!!
:mad: :mad:
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Add another allied rocket before 190-F8 gets any? Oh boy, don't open than can o' worm's.
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flakbait, can you send me a URL ?
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Originally posted by maxtor
Add another allied rocket before 190-F8 gets any? Oh boy, don't open than can o' worm's.
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Does anyone have more information about that "Tiny Tim"?
And additionally, Funked, your pic rocks, Got more?:D
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umm funked, I'd gladly ask that your refrain from posting that stuff as it divides the community.
Instead, let them pick out their own items :)
http://www.cafeshops.com/cag15
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"March 19th, 1945...JAPAN: Beginning at 0545 hours, aircraft from the carriers of Task Force 58 begin attack on Japanese warships in the Kobe and Kure areas. These attacks are in support of the upcoming Okinawa invasion. At least 16 Japanese ships are damaged including the battleship Yamato, aircraft carriers Amagi and Katsuragi and the light aircraft carrier Ryuho.
At 0708 hours, one hour and 23 minutes after launching a strike force, the aircraft carrier USS Franklin (CV-13) had 31 aircraft on her flight deck, five bombers, 14 torpedo planes and 12 fighters. All were loaded with ammunition, fuel, GP bombs and Tiny Tim rockets. A Japanese Yokosuka D4Y Navy Carrier Bomber Suisei (Comet), Allied Code Name "Judy," dove out of the 2,000-foot (610 meter) clouds and drops two 250-kilo (550 pound) semiarmor piercing bombs; one struck the flight deck centerline penetrating to the hangar deck..."
"...18 July 1945:
At Yokosuka. Attacked by TBF "Avenger" torpedo-bombers and F6F "Hellcat" fighter-bombers from Task Force 58's USS ESSEX (CV-9), RANDOLPH (CV-15), SHANGRI-LA (CV-38) and BELLEAU WOOD (CVL-24).
Some of the NAGATO's former AA guns fire from nearby Urayama. Her main guns do not fire. A new 11.75-inch "Tiny Tim" rocket hits the NAGATO and passes through her stern. She is hit by three 500-lb. bombs. The first hits port side near No. 3 turret. The second hits the bridge and conning tower, demolishes the wheelhouse and kills skipper Admiral Otsuka and several other officers. Otsuka is promoted to Vice Admiral posthumously. After this attack, all her remaining AA armament is moved ashore...."
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ok here are 2 scans of the gun package and the turret field of fire. Ours in the game is somewhat limited on its field of fire.
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The first three are from Jack Broughton's book Thud Ridge. Based both on text and the map of the Hanoi area on page 40-41. I've got a map of the Chinese/Vietnam border that shows where most of the towns are. And the MiG bases are fairly easy to find using Jack's map. The Gia Lam MiG base was mentioned over here (http://www.taskforceomegainc.org/r020.html) on an MIA page. Those are the only four MiG bases I was able to find. I'm pretty sure there was one around Vinh, though. Several other books on Vietnam mention Vinh as being a major supply route and military staging area. Seems like a perfect place to park a few dozen MiG 17's and 21's. Sheer speculation on my part, but I think there was at least one airfield at Vinh.
If you'd like the Chicom/Vietnam border map, just holler. I can mark all the MiG bases on it before e-mailing you a copy.
delta6@bigfoot.com
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flakbait, thanks ! Interesting read on that website. If you can email that map to me at vermillion_c@hotmail.com I'd appreciate it.
I have about 10 different maps from different books showing the locations of all the North Vietnamese airfields, and I have info regarding which units used which base and when.
I guess what I'm looking for are some wide angle aerial recon photo's showing what each (or at least some) of the airfields looked like from the air. I'm figuring I'm going to have to take a trip up to Dayton to the USAF Museum to find them. But I figured that if Dnil was at the Naval Aviation Musuem, he could ask about whats available from the Navy in those regards. I figure there has to be tons of them in the archives somewhere. Just finding and procurring copies may get expensive.
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No trouble at all Vermin! The map is zipped on my site at the moment, it's too big to E-mail. 307k! Here's the link
MiG Map (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6/htbin/hanoi.zip)
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Thanks!