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Title: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: Ike 2K# on January 09, 2003, 12:36:31 AM

did n1k2-j really carried 900 or 800 rounds of cannons??? these numbers doesnt sound right. In CFS2, the n1k2-j carried only 520 rounds of cannon and i think the CFS2 version of n1k2-j's ammo load is more realistic than the onw in AH.

Title: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: Karnak on January 09, 2003, 01:16:03 AM

Yes.

A long time ago some Japanese players posted scans from the original N1K2-J manuals that specified a loadout of 200 rounds per gun, with an overload option of 250 rounds per gun for the outer pair.


Keep in mind that one of the many improvements of the N1K2-J over the N1K1-J was an increase in ammo load.  Perhaps CFS2 and FA3 are erroneously using the N1K1-J's ammo load for the N1K2-J.

Title: Re: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: straffo on January 09, 2003, 02:33:33 AM

// arsh mode on ;)

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
did n1k2-j really carried 900 or 800 rounds of cannons??? these numbers doesnt sound right. In CFS2, the n1k2-j carried only 520 rounds of cannon and i think the CFS2 version is n1k2-j's ammo load is more realistic than the onw in AH.

You don't have to think you have to check ;)

Title: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: FDutchmn on January 09, 2003, 02:55:17 AM

As Karnak already mentioned... yes, the N1K2-J carried 900 rounds of 20mm cannon shells.

This is off hand and I will correct this if I am wrong...

The N1K2-J carried the Type 99-2 Model IV 20mm cannons.  This cannon was belt-fed unlike the Type 99-2 Model III and earlier models, which had a drum-type magazine.  Depending on the model the drum could carry 60 to 100 rounds, thus the A6M2 Zeke has a low ammo load compared to the N1K2-J.  

The N1K1-J used the earlier variants of the Type 99-2, I think it was the Model III.  And thus, it had gondolas under the wings because there was not enough space to have the drum-type magazine in the wings.

Compared to the N1K1-J, because the cannons on the N1K2-J was belt-fed, there was enough space to place the four cannons inside the wings themselves without the aid of the gondolas and have 200 rounds for the inner cannons and 250 rounds for the outer cannons.

I also read the account on the negotiation that took place to convince the manufacturer of the wing, because belt-fed meant that the wing compartment that the cannons and the ammo was placed had to be precisely made, a precision that the manufacturer was rather reluctant to agree too...

more to follow...

Title: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: fffreeze220 on January 09, 2003, 03:53:19 AM

I miss the laser gun. Doesent all allien Ufo's have it ?

Title: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: Mitsu on January 09, 2003, 04:45:41 AM

You have hispanos.

Title: Did n1k2-j really carried 900 rds of cannons???
Post by: FDutchmn on January 09, 2003, 05:47:13 AM

If you want more details, please refer to this thread I posted in the Aircraft and Vehicles forum...

On the Type99 cannons, A6Ms, and N1Ks  (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75250)