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Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Midnight on January 09, 2003, 10:59:56 AM
Not sure how many have seen this, but it happens to me fairly often now.

Flying along with a wingman and looking right at him... then he dissapears totally. After a couple seconds, he reappears.

Engaged with a bandit and he disappears and then reappears again a few seconds later.

My pings have been <40 very steady for a long time, so I don't think it's my connection.

Has anyone else seen disappearing aircraft?
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: -Concho- on January 09, 2003, 11:12:53 AM
Saw a 109 do it last night in the same area we were flying in Midnight.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Modas on January 09, 2003, 11:14:04 AM
Yep, had a disappering p47 last night over a29 at 20K or so... was about 3K in front of me coalt, disappeared, reappeared 6K in front and about 2K higher.  Didn't have it on film tho.  


wierd things are afoot
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Mirge on January 09, 2003, 11:14:04 AM
ive seen this happen a couple times
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: VOR on January 09, 2003, 11:35:44 AM
It's happened to my squaddies before. I haven't seen it happen to a con yet fortunately. When I asked my squaddies what just happened, they had no idea the had even warped or anything.

Most likely explanation is they were abducted by N1K2s and returned upon completion of some kind of medical experimentation with their memories of the event erased. This is, however, hard to prove.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: hogenbor on January 09, 2003, 11:41:03 AM
I regularly have pings > 500 :-D

Don't get yelled at for warping, I guess the connection is good, just the server is far, far away.

But I do see some strange warp behaviour though, but not bad enough that people can avoid being shot down bij me.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Pfunk on January 09, 2003, 11:53:21 AM
Happens to me pretty frequently,  About once everytime i log on.  I have seen several guys below me that I have been about to BnZ, then they disappear completly.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: DoctorYO on January 09, 2003, 12:05:00 PM
Ive noticed it only happens when i about to slaughter someone.

Then they reappear and i get em anyway...


it has been on the rise though....


DoctorYo
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: jonnyb on January 09, 2003, 01:02:44 PM
Midnight, I remember flying on your wing with some of the other guys in the squad...I was up high playing free-fighter while you and they engaged some low cons.  I was watching the bogey you were engaging, when a couple of the guys with you came over vox saying that the bandit had disappeared.  I was still watching him, and told the guys his position.  When they reported they still couldn't see him, I came down and nailed him.

Same kind of scenario, except I was in an osty, and sofaking was right behind me.  He says, "Hey jonny, formation of lancasters right over you." I couldn't see them...didn't until they exploded right over my head.

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K....
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: T0J0 on January 09, 2003, 01:09:43 PM
I noticed the disappearing planes several times if only for a few seconds at a time, but enough to know it wasn't a one time thing.... Twice it was watching a C-47 drop troops when the c-47 disappeared
T0J0
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Zippatuh on January 09, 2003, 01:10:26 PM
Interesting…  I had this happen last night.  I just thought it was net sludge or something.

I was in a Tempest and the enemy were two tiffies.  I think both of them did it at one time or another.  So far that was the only time though.
Title: Been there
Post by: SPIKER on January 09, 2003, 01:21:18 PM
flying a formation of 17's tring to stay tight, lead formation moving in and out sometimes 2k.  Not just isolated it was during the whole 1 hour mission.  So have given up on watching the other formation to stay on course or in tight formation.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: gofaster on January 09, 2003, 01:25:43 PM
Its happened to me several different nights, different vehicles each time, and only started happening recently.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: MrLars on January 09, 2003, 01:35:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by VOR


Most likely explanation is they were abducted by N1K2s and returned upon completion of some kind of medical experimentation with their memories of the event erased. This is, however, hard to prove.


You obviously either missed the recall notice or have never regestered your's with the NiK2 mothership at the point of purchase...or you may have changed e-mail addys before the notice was released.

Here's a synopsys:

ATTN: All N1K2 pilots are required to report back to their respective mother ships for an anal probe re-fit. Failure to have said re-fit done could result in maladjusted anal retentive personality disorder coupled with noxious eminations.

Please report to Dr. Roid N. DeGroidenheimer immediatley!
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: StracCop on January 09, 2003, 01:44:26 PM
Seen it while running GVs too.

One minute I'm looking at a comrade in his tank the next moment he disappears.  I ask him over local where he went and he says he's still there and can see me clear as day.  Then, miraculously, he reappears.

Very strange and happening with alarming regularity now.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Midnight on January 09, 2003, 01:56:30 PM
Well, it seems we have a trend here. I didn't care too much until last night when I was trying to kill a P-38. I shot him at one point and he vanished making me think I got a pilot kill. No sooner had I turned off did I look back and see him turning into me with guns blazing.

I hope HTC has seen this thread and is going to fix it :)
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: TheCage on January 09, 2003, 01:57:43 PM
I have noticed this a few times myself but usually  when I am down low to the deck and closing on his six.   The biggest problem I have noticed is the Icon for the E/A disappears while every friendly aircraft shows up.   I can see the plane, just no icon.   Other times the plane just ups and disappears.   I think it really does have to do with the connection at the time it disappears.    Not the server but rather the route which the information has to travel.   Maybe because the lower to the ground you get the more information that is needed to update the screen information.   How ever the disappearing icons may be caused friendly aircraft are getting priority in the updates or may have to do with the object limits in the game itself.  

The only time I ever see this is when there are 15+ friendly aircraft in one sector and only a few E/A.  Only way to know for sure is to run a ping type program that will keep a record of your connection while on line.   If it shows a spike then that might prove to be the problem,and show that there is a choke point some where along the line common to many players.  Otherwise it could be the server or a flaw in the game.    

I don't think that the disappearing planes is a cheat or exploit IMHO.  As Jonnyb pointed out he could still see the aircraft because he had altitude.   Everyone else low to the deck saw the plane disappear.   It's just to random from my point of view.  If enough data is recorded and turns out to be on HTC's end then that data will help them find and cure the problem, but they have to know where to start to fix it.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: GPreddy on January 09, 2003, 02:22:07 PM
Yes Midnight I have and I dont like it. I dont know what causes it but it first made its appearance with the new network code in 1.10 or at least it did for me. Its only caused me one death so far though.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: sax on January 09, 2003, 02:24:30 PM
It,s gaming the game Midnight.

Have a squaddie behind you about 1d out just so's they can see clearly, then take a screen shot.

He'll most likely see ya dissapear for a few seconds.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: nuchpatrick on January 09, 2003, 02:33:56 PM
I dunno.. happened to myself as well.. flying with a squad mate..we both had good net status acording to AH net button.  Nice flat lines with no spikes.  Theres something funky going on...may be the reason they have the scoring thing turned off.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: RightF00T on January 09, 2003, 03:06:28 PM
Yep...seen it many times in MA and once in a duel.  Last night a squadmate reported that a 109 had disappeared, but I saw it clear as day.  Good to know I'm not alone and this just isnt me.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Pfunk on January 09, 2003, 06:01:07 PM
Happened to me just an hour ago.  I was on the ground at 15 in a GV, then all of a sudden Maxtor disappeared.  I asked him where he went and he was still there.  Sure enough about 5 seconds later he was in the same exact spot.  I have film of it BTW.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Fancy on January 09, 2003, 06:10:30 PM
It's happened to me quite a few times.  Both in traffic and 1 on 1.  So far I can discern no pattern to it.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: gorski3 on January 10, 2003, 03:33:17 AM
It's been a long time since I have seen a plane warp at close range.  

Gorski
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Dowding on January 10, 2003, 04:55:13 AM
I've not noticed anything like this. Warpage has gone down for me this release.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: Zippatuh on January 10, 2003, 08:06:29 AM
It’s not really a warp though and I never had problems with that other than the normal during a big furball.

They disappear completely, no icon, no silhouette, nothing.  After a few seconds they reappear.  Someone said they had film of it.  If you do, mark the time down and send it to HTC.  I wasn’t recording at the time and didn’t think to turn it on, I just thought it was a temporary funky not a bug funky.

Was on last night and didn’t have a problem.
Title: Teleporting warpers
Post by: fats on January 10, 2003, 08:11:53 AM
Still wonder how come AH doesn't flag planes about to warp or zoom to the eternity.

// fats