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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: weazel on January 09, 2003, 09:47:47 PM
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Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
Convicted felons put to work in Bush's administration
Russell Mohbiker asks:
Mohbiker: Ari, other than Elliott Abrams, how many convicted criminals are on the White House staff?
Lying Ari: (Laughter) You tell me, Russell. You seem to keep count.
Mohbiker: Can you give me a list of convicted criminals on the White House staff, other than Elliott Abrams?
Lying Ari: I'll go right to the convicted criminals division and ask them to turn -- (Laughter)
Mohbiker: Why isn't being convicted of a criminal a disqualifier for being on the White House staff?
Lying Ari: Russell, this is an issue that you like to repeat every briefing. I refer you to the --
Mohbiker: But you don't answer --
Lying Ari: -- repeat I gave you the third time you asked it, which matched the second, which corresponded to the first.
Issue One - Why are convicted felons allows to run America against the wishes of the voters?
Issue Two - Is it because the president is, himself, a convicted felon?
Is Mohbiker trying to determine if Bush is included on the list of felons?
No wonder Lying Ari: won't answer - he can't!
Issue Three - Why does the Bush's good puppy press titter when this question is asked?
If they caught Clinton glancing at a woman's cleavage at some formal event, it was big news and the potatos splashed the fabricated story all over Page One.
But when the Unelected Fraud hires the goons his dad used to break laws in the eighties, the ones who needed pardons to cover their still-unknown crimes, the press just just sits there and giggles?
We don't have a free press in this country.
We have a press bought and paid for by Bush backers.
Snipped from BartCop (http://www.bartcop.com/) with a few edits by me.
:p
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DETH TO AMREEKA
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Deth to Amreeka!
BTW Wasn't wiezelle named jihad before his buddies made that name somewhat inconvenient on 911?
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Issue 1 : The Democrats are worse for this type of crap
Issue 2: The Democracts want to seize all your guns
Issue 3: The Democrats like homos.
Issue 4: Hilary Clinton
Issue 5: James Carville
Issue 6: That stupid bellybutton donkey for a logo.
And most importantly
Issue 7: Weazel, you're a weeny :p
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Why should a criminal conviction be a life sentence?
J_A_B
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Because they are satan!
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One question weaz, who are these convicted felons?
Just curious, of course
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good ol' objective ari....
(http://www.digink.net/pictures/snapshots/arifleischer.jpg)
oy vey! tell us vhat the president thinks of the israeli crisis ari. ;)
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Originally posted by Yeager
One question weaz, who are these convicted felons?
Just curious, of course
George Bush: President .....Deserter
Dick Cheney: Vice-President .....ranking House Republican on the Iran-contra cover-up.
Elliot Abrams: National Security Council .....Iran/Contra
John Poindexter: Information Awareness Office .....Iran/Contra
John Negroponte: Ambassador to the U.N.....Iran/Contra
Richard Armitage: Deputy Secretary of State.....Iran/Contra
Shall I continue Yeager?
Screech "DETH TO AMREEKA" all you like, it just shows your too cowardly to stand up for whats right.....pathetic really.
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And it's right to overthrow the Bush hitlerian dictatorship! Join the jihad now!!!!!
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Have to chime in on this one....in order to vote you can not have a felony conviction. George Bush cast his vote for himself. Thus if you add it all up He cant be a felon.
My two cents
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Now you might be able to petition the state you reside in for restoration of your civil right to vote but usually these are not restored. Just the extra I left out...LOL.
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tough to find a politician who is not a criminal...clinton was in on Iran/Contra too, but slick enough to not get caught...rumour is Jr. was too (DUI was misdemeanor in Maine when he got busted...wonder what happened to the poor cop who dragged him in)
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When were they tried and convicted of these felonies again? Sorry if I'm not very well educated on the subject.
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Why not just post a link to MG's daily diatribes. He posts the same toejam you do, just a few hours earlier.
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Deserter?
Allegations of desertion, but hazy recollections and no evidence = not even an indictment. Far from your assertation of a felony conviction.
If your'e going to accuse someone of something, get your facts straight.
The last President who was convicted of something was convicted of contempt of court because he did not tell the truth under oath. Can't remember his name just now... it will come to me.
Take a deep breath Weasel, and calm down.
The first step toward recovery is acceptance. George won the electoral vote, and your boy lost.
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Originally posted by weazel
We don't have a free press in this country.
We have a press bought and paid for by Bush backers.
So, exactly where did Mr. Bush throw you in jail for printing this stuff that Ari said?
If they're not already, I hope the Black helicopters are on their way to your house
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Aub they are on the way, I'm personally warming up the engines at this very moment. These silent drive BushKrupp AG DB-YA6005 are are a real pain unless you run the suckers up just right. But the FW1900 are sweet machines nonetheless. Best pack up your favorite most shinyest straitjacket wiezelle, were coming.
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I read somewhere.. Josh Mitchell's Talking Points or Media potatos Online that curtain reporters like Bill Gerz of the Wash Times get paid extra for reporting favorable coverage of George Bush... I wonder how widespread that is.
The last President who was convicted of something was convicted of contempt of court because he did not tell the truth under oath. Can't remember his name just now... it will come to me.
Well keep trying to remember... I pay attention to politics and the last president that I recall having legal difficulties was Clinton but he was acquitted.. So which president were you referring to?
I assume you mean Clinton so lets do a test to see if that was genuine outrage. If you were upset by Clinton’s lying about a consensual affair you would be at least equally upset by guys lying to Congress about selling arms to know terrorist for release of hostages (after the president goes on TV and lies about never dealing with terrorists) takes the money to fund right wing death squads in central America-- delivering arms to known thugs like Manual Noriega, and because the pilots don’t what to deadhead back empty... filling the planes full of cocaine to be sold in black communities.... Heh... If your cool with all that then that shows some disingenuousness on your part. A reasonable person might conclude a double standard..
So it’s a fair question and Weazel is right for pointing it out... Exactly Ari... how many convicted felons are on Bush’s staff?.... A better question might be: Is there anybody there without a police record?.. Remember these are supposed to be the grownups back in charge... He promised to bring honor and dignatude back to the White House.
But your right in thinking the Dems are a pack of weenies... they are.. I’ve never seen them so weenerish in my life... You know who our tough guy is... Our fighting warrior?... an 82 year old woman that’s who.. Helen Thomas... I guess she doesn’t care about the extra financial perks offered to other journalists like Bill Gerz.
Note to Helen: Don’t fly in private planes.
Where have I been?.... where Weazel should be ... in the editor --Politics have gotten way to depressing.
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Originally posted by 10Bears
Well keep trying to remember... I pay attention to politics and the last president that I recall having legal difficulties was Clinton but he was acquitted.. So which president were you referring to?
I assume you mean Clinton so lets do a test to see if that was genuine outrage. If you were upset by Clinton’s lying about a consensual affair .... blah blah blah
Yes, you saw through my humorous quip. You should pay closer attention to political affairs. Clinton was held in contempt of court and paid a fine, and was barred from practicing law in Arkansas for several years. Not the usual result of being aquitted.
He was, however, aquitted in his trial by the Republican controlled Senate (lead by Trent Lott) of committing impeachable offenses.
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Hmm, who was the Press Guy during Clinton's early years and quit in total disgust with the administration?
Pity Weazel wasn't born in the 1600s, his witch hunts would be so very popular then too :rolleyes:
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Thought I had asked for names of convicted felons. I recall poindexter was convicted of something significant in iran/contra debacle but I damned near supported that action anyway. In any event, not pleased with that appointment but is poindexters job actually considered part of the administration? Probably....
Any others actually convicted of anything?
Bush is a deserter? hehe weazel, you damned near come across as intelligent here but using those sorts of descriptions pretty much cancels you out. Try to focus.....
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If you were upset by Clinton’s lying about a consensual affair you would be at least equally upset by guys lying to Congress about selling arms to know terrorist for release of hostages
Stereotypical left mischaracterization. I am offended more by Clinton's lousy taste in women than I am about his consensual affair with a women in the oval office (though it is an act that would get most of us fired). I'm worried about his lying to a grand jury, for the express purpose of denying a citizen her legal right to pursue a lawsuit against him. That is an abuse of power. Don't bother arguing the case was later thrown out, making the point moot- it doesn't. Clinton intended to subvert justice any way he could pull it off.
Oh, and Reagan should be sitting in jail. Agreed. But the least I can say is he did have American interests in mind.
As for the claim of "having read somewhere"... show your work. It's innuendo as I see it, same as asking "how many convicted felons", and then posting a list of people that were convicted of nothing.
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Originally posted by 10Bears
I read somewhere.. Josh Mitchell's Talking Points or Media potatos Online that curtain reporters like Bill Gerz of the Wash Times get paid extra for reporting favorable coverage of George Bush... I wonder how widespread that is.
The last President who was convicted of something was convicted of contempt of court because he did not tell the truth under oath. Can't remember his name just now... it will come to me.
Well keep trying to remember... I pay attention to politics and the last president that I recall having legal difficulties was Clinton but he was acquitted.. So which president were you referring to?
I assume you mean Clinton so lets do a test to see if that was genuine outrage. If you were upset by Clinton’s lying about a consensual affair you would be at least equally upset by guys lying to Congress about selling arms to know terrorist for release of hostages (after the president goes on TV and lies about never dealing with terrorists) takes the money to fund right wing death squads in central America-- delivering arms to known thugs like Manual Noriega, and because the pilots don’t what to deadhead back empty... filling the planes full of cocaine to be sold in black communities.... Heh... If your cool with all that then that shows some disingenuousness on your part. A reasonable person might conclude a double standard..
So it’s a fair question and Weazel is right for pointing it out... Exactly Ari... how many convicted felons are on Bush’s staff?.... A better question might be: Is there anybody there without a police record?.. Remember these are supposed to be the grownups back in charge... He promised to bring honor and dignatude back to the White House.
But your right in thinking the Dems are a pack of weenies... they are.. I’ve never seen them so weenerish in my life... You know who our tough guy is... Our fighting warrior?... an 82 year old woman that’s who.. Helen Thomas... I guess she doesn’t care about the extra financial perks offered to other journalists like Bill Gerz.
Note to Helen: Don’t fly in private planes.
Where have I been?.... where Weazel should be ... in the editor --Politics have gotten way to depressing.
Don't fly in pvt planes? Oh...you must be refering to Ron Brown?
Bullet hole in the head and no investigation?
Some of you guys need to open your eyes and grow up....how many years do you have to live to realize that life is full of evil....it has no party affiliation:)
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weazel... you are a funny sad little man... don't you know reading that lefty crap in the far corners of the internet just upsets you?
Plenty of real life things to get upset over. None of this crap has any effect on your life. Democrats on the other hand take your money and your freedom... that is worth voting against. They will take away all your toys and put helmets on you and turn you loose in a world full of criminals. Worry about that instead.
lazs
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"If the glove don't fit you can't convict"
(no real relevence, just kind of came to me)
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Bush: *BEEP* *BEEP*!
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Originally posted by LePaul
Hmm, who was the Press Guy during Clinton's early years and quit in total disgust with the administration?
how many press guys did clinton burn through in his admin? I lost count...
didn't they have to change the drug screening rules for 3/4's of slicks staff to be allowed in the whitehouse??
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Originally posted by Rude
Don't fly in pvt planes? Oh...you must be refering to Ron Brown?
Bullet hole in the head and no investigation?
Some of you guys need to open your eyes and grow up....how many years do you have to live to realize that life is full of evil....it has no party affiliation:)
Ron Brown is not the on 'friend o' bill's the get it in a plane crash - following the unusal death around clinton has become so common it has it's own name "the clinton body count" - count is over 70
http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22clinton+body+count%22
1010 hits...too bad about Barry Seal - according to legend he was a masterful pilot in the 'Bob' Hoover class
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I'm curious as to why people think that once someone has been convicted of a felony, they should be treated like animals. Granted, a lot of felons are just that, but some felonies are just not worth revoking someone's rights for the rest of their lives. Case in point: speeding to elude is a felony. It is nothing more than a glorified traffic ticket. You didn't murder, rape, assault, torture anyone. You simply drove your car faster than allowed. Should this person no longer be allowed to vote, carry a firearm, get a job?
There are many other such felonies on the books, but that was the first one that came to mind. You rape someone, torture someone, assault someone, murder someone, yes, your rights should go out the window. But blanket ALL felonies this way?
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Jonnyb-
You have to understand the game. Felons are excluded from certain positions in government. This is an attempt to show the illegitimacy of the current administration.
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That was why I asked the question. Since I don't know what felonies these guys were convicted of, let's take the hypothetical case. Joe Smith has been a good guy his whole life. Raised a family, and been very politically active. Unfortunately, using my example from the above reply, he was convicted of speeding to elude. This is a minor felony, but nonetheless, still a felony. Should he be barred from the position in the government, especially if he's exceptionally qualified for it?
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Selling weapons to the Ayatollah and then lying to Congress about it is probably something that should exclude you from further government service.
Poindexter's conviction was overturned by an appeals court which ruled that his incriminating statements were made while he was under some sort of immunity.
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Yep. Address the points.
What weaz is doing right now is actually kind of soft compared to what many republicans posted about Clinton.
Not that double standards is anything new though.
Gonna try to stay outside this debate, other than just pointing out obvious cases of hypocricy :D.
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Gonna try to stay outside this debate, other than just pointing out obvious cases of hypocricy.
Aw, go on. You know you're going to in the end anyway.
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Bush is a deserter? hehe weazel, you damned near come across as intelligent here but using those sorts of descriptions pretty much cancels you out. Try to focus.....
I don't know Yeager, what do you call a soldier who leaves his post for a year? has his congressmen daddy fix things so the boy is not court marcheled has all the kids records scrubbed.. If Bush didn't go AWOL for a year, why can't the Texas Air National guard find his honorable discharge papers?... they simply lost it.. Do you buy that... That the millitary would simply loose a guys paperwork?
Rude maybe your right it’s a coincidence that there was irregularities with the navigational landing beacon with John John’s plane, the Gov of Missouri and the Senator from Min. Coincidence perhaps but I would still recommend opponents of Bush’s polices to fly commercial. I would also recommend they don't open any unknown letters... Did they ever find the anthrax killer yet?.. you know, the one who only sent anthrax laden letters to democrats
Some of you guys need to open your eyes and grow up....how many years do you have to live to realize that life is full of evil....it has no party affiliation
What! am I reading this right.. are you saying that since life is full of evil we should just accept it and join in?... Wow!
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If someone's conviction is overturned on appeals, then for all practical purposes there was no conviction.
J_A_B
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Weazelle, I thought we explained to you last time that to be a convicted felon one must be convicted of a felony.
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That's pretty kooky stuff there, 10Bears.
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ARI FLEISCHER (http://www.buffalobeast.com/article.php?path=2002/09/&article=01_0)
"Misdeeds: Wherever he ends up placed on this list will not be high enough. This motherdiddlyer carries G.W. Bush's demon seed in his anal womb, gestates a fresh offspring a couple times a day and produces a few Rosemary's steamers at press conferences with all the non-chalance of a Spot Coffee latte jerk.
Fleischer is the very bold assertion, by the powers that be, that Americans and their media representatives are too whip-shy to just say, "Wait a diddlying minute. You're telling a whoopeeed lie, Fleischie."
He is a brazen challenge from the tri-laterals and Bildenbergs, etc., that they know that we, as the TV umbilical-cable-dependent, won't do anything to jeopardize our little no-compulsory-military-service, double-mocha-under-a-self-contained, climate-controlled indoor-suburban-shopping-theme-park-with-a-Botox-safety-net dream.
Aggravating Factor: He is less life-like than every other who has stood in his rank. Within weeks, there promises to be empirical evidence that Fleischer was produced by the same laboratory that gave us Nixon tron John Dean.
Aesthetic: C3PO melded with Carson Daly operating off a modified Charles Grodin chip."[/b]
Bingo, couldn't have said it better.
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Do you buy that... That the millitary would simply loose a guys paperwork?
It happens to someone every single God-forsaken day in some lazy administrative or finance clerk's office. Ever been in? You'd understand.
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...bet it doesn't happen to the child of someone who makes up the .mil budget, unless that is the desired outcome...anyone know what junior was when he was absent from tx national guard? my best guess: roy cohn rim job
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THE BEAST 50
Jay Leno is #47, Ari is # 16, and #5 on the Most Loathsome People in America list is:
#5. MARY KATE AND ASHLEY OLSEN
Misdeeds: Their entire life up to this point. The Olsen twins starred as the precocious Michelle on the abysmal Full House, a television show so vile that any sensible person would rather watch an abortion gone horribly wrong than sit through five minutes of it. As of this date the twins have sold 29 million books, 1.5 million albums, and 30 million videos. They also have their own line of video games, a magazine, CD-ROMs, and a fashion and lifestlye line available at Walmart which teach young girls that it's OK to be walking through piles of toejam as long as you have a cute skirt and flirty earrings.
Aggravating Factor: Their company expects to rake in roughly 1 billion dollars in sales in the next year, which hopefully a crooked manager will steal from them because these sluts are already worth $38 million each.
Aesthetic: One half Britney Spears, one half Andres Serrano's Piss Christ
Boy Weasel, your sources for reliable political discourse are outstanding... :rolleyes:
At least Ari is not as loathsome as those two, so I think we are gonna be OK.:)
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It bothers me too 10bears.
Can you post a link or something. Last time this was hashed over no one could place a link to relavent information.
In any event. Congressman daddy flew TBFs in the pacific and was shot down bombing a little jap island somewhere near Japan. Lost his entire crew. I recall some liberal types suggesting there was a conspiricy involved and that daddy was cleared of being responsible for the lives of both crewman lost when in fact he abandoned his crew to save his own life (nevermind the japanese firing the guns that shot the plane down, they were just doing their duty) . And then more liberal types tried saying that daddy president was screwing some seceratary behind barbs back. Remember that?
Point is, congressman daddy is a good man and I think his little boy is a good man as well. I doubt strongly that he "deserted" and my hunch is that people who say he did are pretty much the same caliber as the people who suggested the above things about his father.
So please, give me some solid information on the desertion.
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i've read autobiographies of nearly 100 WWI & WWII pilots. practically none of them got into it for idealistic reasons (not even eagle squad or lafeyette escadrille pilots), so i dont see how having been a WWII pilot is a redeeming character value...i dont think the conspiracies really started to flow until nixon got a hold of Ike's bag of WWII tricks
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Gates-
A does not equal B, so C cannot equal A? Sorry, that doesn't compute...
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Yeager: Just saw a program on the history channel regarding State Sanctioned Terrorism. George Bush SR. was listed as one of those being fully involved in the support of the Contras.
So as to Bush Sr. being a good man?.... His Sons rhetoric seems to condemn his actions.
For those that have missed the facts, The US was heavily involved in funding and training terrorist groups throughout the Americas. It was at CIA direction that their targets were switched to economic and civilian targets as opposed to military.
Its these type of people in the White House now. Weasel, even though seeming off the edge, has a point.
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(http://www.aclu.org/cartoons/images/artshowart/toons/mcgruder.gif)
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Ping, Wezel doesn't even know what his point is. He copies these essays without a clue what they mean and pastes them up sometimes even plagerized as his own (if Weazel is short on odd sounding made up words in a post, just grab a line or so of it and do a search to find the original article that is being copied).
Take from that his extrapolation of the facts from a source that is already exaggerating the facts and you'll see why weazel is so fun to poke.
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Fatty, sort of like your average Clinton hating Republican, then? :D.
ABout Bush Sr. being a good man - I don't know. So he flew a SBD in WWII. Not sure that gives you a moral compass somehow. Being a war hero doesn't mean you're an angel - there are a good deal of examples of the opposite. It means you'll have an easier time getting away with not being one.
And his actions through his presidency speak for themselves. Support for various terrorist groups -I mean 'freedom fighters' and so forth, although I believe he was probably trying to control what Raygun had let out.
From what Bush jr. was line in his younger days I do not think it is inconceivable that he went AWOL and had daddy cover it up. He's admitted to being an alcoholic drug user (cocaine). With a rich, powerful father it's easy to see that he was a playboy. It took him a good while before he got his first regular job.
And he dinnae do too good managing that air cartering business for Carlyle. It went bust.
Whatever he was, he's changed - I do believe that. There are certain aspects of him that I like. Even more that I don't.
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Originally posted by StSanta
From what Bush jr. was line in his younger days I do not think it is inconceivable that he went AWOL and had daddy cover it up. He's admitted to being an alcoholic drug user (cocaine).
Just a slight correction, GW said he had an 'irresponsible' phase in his life and admitted to heavy drinking, but never admitted to cocaine use. He was accused of it, he was asked about it, but never admitted it. (Althought he never flat out denied it either.)
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Hell Santa, I probably won't even vote for Bush in 2004 if Bob Graham runs (there's a few other democrats that would get my vote as well, none of the current front runners though). I just like mocking weazel as the foam forms at the corners of his mouth.