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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TeeDog on January 13, 2003, 01:57:40 PM
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The Knights have a bad apple.... His name is FGump. I was online every night last week...and just about every night I heard this guy (FGump) whining, yelling and even sometimes just plain rude towards other knights . Hopefully his attitude will change someday...but for now... I’ll never give him “6 calls” and/or help him... and I know a lot of other members feel the same way towards him. Aces High doesn’t need members like him.
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Not to be confused with BadApple of the Shillelagh squadron, flying for Rooks.
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Its sad to see that this is your first post TeeDog.
What might help is if you can generate a 10,000 word essay on just what exactly is the type of player that AH needs, zip it and attatch it to this thread.
After that, grab an encyclopedia and look up "witch hunt".
Until then, you may want to film the problem individual and e-mail it to HTC. But be forwarned, "I don't like him" may not be a good enough reason to have someone kicked out.
AKDejaVu
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try this awesome dot command
.squelch
works like a charm!
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Deja, it's sad to see that this is your 5020th post. Instead of reaming the new guy, how about a polite suggestion that he do a screen shot & send it in to HTC.
You should know better
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Originally posted by BD
Instead of reaming the new guy, how about a polite suggestion that he do a screen shot & send it in to HTC.
You should know better
Agreed.
dh
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You’re right AKDeJaVu....it is sad that this was my first post.... but it’s also sad that you didn’t understand my post... let me help you...... #1 It wasn’t not a “Witch Hunt” and #2 no where in my post did I said “I don’t like him”, and #3 I never said I wanted him kicked out.
To let you know.. I didn’t know where to send this info... I thought is was important that I posted it in this BBS, and I wanted to know if anyone else had any problems him as I did.
Also I would expect a better replay from a senior member of this fourm then the flame I got from you.
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TeeDog, without a doubt you're in one of the best squads in the game ('cept for that post potato Sunking). You may want to consider runnin' something like this by them. The BBS as of late has been filled with nothing but wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Just a thought.
BTW, I would recommend not getting in a pissin' contest with DJ. He ciphers alot usin' big words. He ain't no fun.
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Sorry guys... this is crap and it gets perpetuated.
Please... learn one thing....
The MA is an arena that will have many different personalities and attitudes. It is also a competitive arena which tends to amplify personalities and attitudes. That's the way it is.
Either you learn to deal with it, or you end up with a totally bland non combative arena where everyone pretends to be happy.
TeeDog... you seemingly haven't made an effort to come here with anything in the past. You haven't come to the bbs to join in or do anything else other than to ask that someone be ostrisized. Sorry... but that is simply lame.
And I understand that you feel this person shouldn't be in the MA. "Aces High doesn't need members like him"... right?
Use the film function... use the squelch function... quit defining what members AH does and does not need.
Fricking witch hunts.
AKDejaVu
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By the way.. if anyone sees this as an attempt to do anything other than brand a scarlet "a" on someone's chest... well... you're dillusional.
AKDejaVu
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AKDejaVu is have some serious problems.
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Deja perhaps you should pull that corn cob outta your bellybutton and talk to people like humans for a change. I think the thin air up there on your bully pulpit is making you....delusional.
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Tee dog, was bad taist to post that here. Best to email us.
DeJaVu, cool the flames, you might be right or wrong on the witch hunt,but Teedogs post was posted in a resonable fasion and didn't deserve to be jumped on.
Like I said, lets try make this a FUN place to be, not a jump on a new guys first post, with insults.
HiTech
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I didn't know where to post this... I didn't see anyplace else to write it. Sorry I should have never posted it here. I didn't think that some senior members would flame my post.
:(
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Originally posted by TeeDog
I’ll never give him “6 calls” and/or help him...
And this, gentlemen, in a nutshell, is why FGump expresses his disappointment and dissatisfaction in the MA. FGump is a squad mate of mine and yes, he does get a little 'involved' in the game. As AKDejaVu points out, this game is competitive in nature and FGump is a very competitive player.
By that I mean he is a team player...he gives 6 calls and warns other Knights when they are in danger. He tries to capture bases and is always willing to assist another player or squad in that endeavor...usually to his own detriment. Put succinctly, he is a selfless player who puts the team before himself...
What does he want in return? The same thing all competitors on a team want - mutual support. It is clear from my observations that in recent weeks that level of support has dwindled markedly. Gratefully, there are some exceptions, particularly among those who have been with the game for a while. Still, despite the efforts of these players, the knights are increasingly a 1 man show masquerading as a unified country...and thats why we are now losing on a regular basis. And yes, competitors hate to lose...even FGump.
Recognize that when you are in the MA there are two different games being played. One group of players is all about arcade-style gaming. Quick fun and short engagements are their forte. The other is about conquering territory and capturing bases: a practice that takes coordination, teamwork and persistence. These two forces occassionally come together when both of their objective styles can be met but more frequently than not they don't work together.
Neither approach is right or wrong. Both flavors are available depending on your personality and desire of the moment. But when you are surrounded by supposed countrymen you should still be certain of some level of support - even a lowly check six call - at the simple touch of a button.
I don't know which camp you are part of TeeDog, but you're willingness to ignore a 'countryman' in trouble speaks volumes about what's wrong with the knights. Players like FGump aren't the problem..they are putting their heart and soul into playing the game (the base capture game) and they feel they are being betrayed by their own countrymen.
.. I’ll never give him “6 calls” and/or help him... and I know a lot of other members feel the same way...
There it is in a nutshell.
Personally, I'll always give you and every other Knight check six calls...even if I dislike them - you can count on that.
I will dive down and try to clear your six..even if I compress - you can count on that
I will drop my ordnance and help you whenever I see you in trouble - you can count on that.
I will break pursuit of a bandit when I am within 400 yards to come to your aid - you can count on that.
I will try and kill an adversary who has just killed you - you can count on that.
I will risk getting killed with 10 kills under my belt and will run to assist you rather than land them - you can count on that.
I will ditch my GV, kills and all, and get supplies to help you recover in a damaged Tiger - you can count on that.
I will do all these things and more for a fellow countrymen because I am a TEAM player.
My question to you TeeDog is what can FGump or any other Knight count on from you?
I don't intend this as a flame. My intention was, and is, to use your post an a means to crystallize the issues present in the game and maybe, just maybe, to get some players to reflect on their committment to fellow team members....and maybe improve the game a little....one check-six at a time.
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Tee-dog
Being Fgumps XO I would not appreciate a member of my
squad harrassing other Knights on text or voice and I will not put up with it!! IF it continues please contact "Vghost" 113TH CO or "T0J0" 113Th XO and we will take whatever steps are appropriate... And likewise if I see him acting tardish I will take care of it... I have to agree we have enough BS going on in the arena and the BB.. Everyone needs to remember we are here to enjoy a game..NOt real life...Just a game!!
T0J0
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Please bring the spellcheck feature to the Aces High message boards.
Sincerely,
Coalition for a Literate World
and
The Code Programmer's Union Local 444
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StracCop sorry about the part I said "I won't give him any 6 calls" you're right... But I've seen him jump on new guys alot about 6 calls...and it's not the right approach. But Personally I ALWAYS give 6 calls... and I ALWAYS will. One thing to Remember.... THIS IS A GAME!!!!
Plus Knights and the Mongrels can count on me to do my BEST and to have a great attude towards EVERYONE in this game. To be honest this is getting WAY out of hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST FORGET THE WHOLE THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TeeDog, Apoligy Accepted, May the Fun force be with you oh grasshoper.
HiTech
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Thanks T0J0
But forget the whole thing. I'm sorry I even brought this up.
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I always chuckle when someone gets pissed that they die because they feel it is my responsibility to be their SA crutch. Dont like getting killed by someone you didnt see? Look around a bit. Use the hatswitch that is on your stick....thats what its there for. Dont rely on others to baby-sit you and send you a check 6 every other minute.
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sling322,
Don't worry mate.
I'll still give you a check-six call.
With that lone-wolf attitude, you'll certainly need it. :D
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I believe I owe FGump and apology. I think this stems from an attack by 2 Rook CVs on A95 yesterday. Gump was one of the few Knits running bombers to try to sink those carriers. It was a very frustrating battle...my hats off to the Rook 5-inch gunners, they were extremely accurate.
I had just arrived at the seen in a Tempy and noticed a spit trailing him and should have sent a check-6, but I figured with all the bogs in the area, he probably knew he was being trailed. I dove in on the Spit and bagged him just as Gumps lead bomber exploded at wave-top level sending the other two of the box into the sea.
A very frustrated Gump was on the range channel moments later asking where were his 6-calls.
Gump...I should have been safe and sent the check-6. I sent half a dozen after your admonishment and will send them whether I think the friendly needs it or not from now on.
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At first FGump jumped off the handle when he first appeared but after a few of us explained to him how things are, any troubles simply disappeared. I'll fly on FGump's wing any time.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by hitech
TeeDog, Apoligy Accepted, May the Fun force be with you oh grasshoper.
HiTech
Hey!
Stop takin Star Wars and Kung Fu quotes and mixin them together...something gets lost in the translation!!!
:D
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Originally posted by crowMAW
I believe I owe FGump and apology. I think this stems from an attack by 2 Rook CVs on A95 yesterday. Gump was one of the few Knits running bombers to try to sink those carriers. It was a very frustrating battle...my hats off to the Rook 5-inch gunners, they were extremely accurate.
I was in the carriers aft 5" mount, it was some good fun. Eventualy you guys sunk her but it was a blast!
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Recognize that when you are in the MA there are two different games being played. One group of players is all about arcade-style gaming. Quick fun and short engagements are their forte. The other is about conquering territory and capturing bases: a practice that takes coordination, teamwork and persistence. These two forces occassionally come together when both of their objective styles can be met but more frequently than not they don't work together.
Hey man.Ya forgot #3...The score potatos ;)
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It is ok teedog. We all learn the hard way sometimes. :) I have more than once. Next time just post on our Squad BB or call me. You can bend my ear all you want. ;)
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I give 6 calls (I think I can be almost annoying in this regard) and appreciate them in return, but all this..."You didn't or you need too or Why didn't you or We must... stuff is getting old, especially on vox.
Sometimes you can't give a 6 because you are directly engaged and don't see the threat, or you give it to the wrong guy, or you assume it would be more distracting since the person is already manuvering against the threat, or there's 20 people around mixing it up and everyone is on everyone's 6. However, someone is having a bad day and get's killed and it's now all your fault.
likewise, I am more than willing to help someone in need of help, but when you see them dive down 5k of alt from safety into 10v1 odds -- well, for me it's a maybe, maybe not kind of thing. I don't like taking 10 minutes flying just to throw it away where my teammate should have know better in the first place. I suppose I could just get on vox, and tell the person how to fly and how not to fly, but that would hardly be an improvement.
It really irritates me when it's like 3 v5 (you being one of the five) and you're on one enemy, and you see someone else on 1, but you don't see the third enemy low on your 6 being chased by 3 friendlies that are clearly in a situation to see he's sneaking up on you. You assume, because no 6 call, that the other guys have him on the defensive, but no, they're using you as bait to get the easy fixated kill. It pisses me off, and I would like to rant. But, frankly it is just a reminder that you can get complacent assuming you'll always get a 6 call. As angry as I am, I know that all I had to do was a few more quick glances backwards and all would have been fine, but I took the luxury of assuming everyting was covered by strangers. They may be tools for setting me up :) but at the end of the day SA is my responsibility.
Charon
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If there are chutes in the area, I give 6 calls, so folks will turn away and give me a clear shot.
Cobra
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Criminal hearts eat our starvation while the plump elite’s children mock the starvings decayed pittance keep them working on in criminal starvation greed kills the greedy from the inside while they kill us and all within their grasping grasp mach out of death star system ,Hi it’s me Again.
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Originally posted by hitech
TeeDog, Apoligy Accepted, May the Fun force be with you oh grasshoper.
HiTech
you seem to be having fun monitoring the board even though it has to be a pain to read all the posts... i barely get through 1/4 of them a night:eek: LOL :D
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played with Fgump.
he plays fair and is a lot of fun.
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Personally, I'll always give you and every other Knight check six calls...even if I dislike them - you can count on that.
I will dive down and try to clear your six..even if I compress - you can count on that
etc..
Hehe you runnin for President straccop?
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SunKing 's new "EnigmaGoogle code" is out !!!
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LOL, Some of us don't need anybodies help pinning that "Scarlet Letter" on. We do quite nicely by ourselves:)
NUTTZ
Originally posted by AKDejaVu
By the way.. if anyone sees this as an attempt to do anything other than brand a scarlet "a" on someone's chest... well... you're dillusional.
AKDejaVu
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Criminal hearts eat our starvation while the plump elite’s children mock the starvings decayed pittance keep them working on in criminal starvation greed kills the greedy from the inside while they kill us and all within their grasping grasp mach out of death star system ,Hi it’s me Again. -Sunking
:confused:
Sunking, spray the paint on the model but do not eat it. Or were you hitting some of Ghosths con-juice again?
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I gave FGump a "6" call the other day, I hoped it helped.
The only one I will not give a "6" call to is.......
.....COBRA!!!
:)
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The only one I will not give a "6" call to is.......COBRA
AND YOU CAN COUNT ON THAT!!!!!
(g,d,r)
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Hehe...ok Swager, you dress-wearin' spit dweeb!
Watch out the next time your hanging by your silk undies!
And that goes for Hornet too!
Cobra
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Originally posted by Apache
BTW, I would recommend not getting in a pissin' contest with DJ. He ciphers alot usin' big words. He ain't no fun.
ROTLMAO :)
Now they all look at me at work :)
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hi guys, seems to me this is old news. a new guy not quite understanding the game and how things work. well i know none of you have been in that situation. never over stimulated by the game. never saying things that you regret later on when you understand things things a little better.all the new guys should be beaten down until they submit or quit cause who wants them anyways. {sarcasam ends now} why do we have to post on this crap? you know this is just a GAME. your supposssed to have FUN! thats the point. not everybody is going to do it perfect. in fact some of the players are not going to be very mature in there actions or words because the not mature. well thats my opinion. you may not like it but its there. the original post seemed to be solved well before my post but the problem remains. sorry but thats my two cents and i solve it by squelching those who are annoying me at the time thats what its for
bigsky 367th FG dynamite gang
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I give six calls, when I am behind a friendly who is about to kill a bandit. I give him a six call, he breaks, then I steal his kill. Works every time.
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It's not getting killed by the ones I don't see that sets ME off. I can appreciate a good sneak.
It's the stupid stuff I do like not watching my speed and augering or getting killed in 3.5 seconds by the guy that I did see that gets me. :mad:
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I try to provide six calls whenever I see a friend in need, but about a week ago I was making vox six calls and then hearing/reading "thanks for the %^#$$ six call! Confused I did a "radio check" request and for some reason had to reconfigure my mic. There is nobody who appreciates a six call in a furball more than me, and I always try to acknowledge receiving it. I had an enjoyable hop last weekend while out Lone-Wolfing. I ended up meeting WYD out over the water and we had a blast chasing a pony around Hades' half acre. Never met WYD before, but both being in 190's prowling, by the time we landed I felt we'd been winging for years. I love the human aspect of this "simulation" (I hate the term game)and being real-time with the human aspect it will include, ahem, personalities.
Yes, it is a game, err simulation, but I never recall getting this wound-up fighting any AI adversary.
Psyco (the Knight with the unloadable Cougar inf problems)
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Originally posted by Hornet
etc..
Hehe you runnin for President straccop?
LOL Hornet,
Nah, not running for president...
Besides, I would've use 'you can take that to the bank' instead of 'you can count on that' if I were! ;)
Does that mean I can count on your vote when I do.. ? :D
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Does that mean I can count on your vote when I do.. ?
lol like a dweeb that can't break off from a lazy rope...I shouldn't...but I must...
You'll have my vote straccop, You Can Count On That.
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I usaully start with one as i back out the driveway, ya know for tha cats, rodents and neighbours kids and such. I then go easy on the check 6's till I hit the main highway, boy that's when the fun starts.
I give check 6's for lane changes, letting trucks in and especially emergency vehicles, those are the important ones. I hate to have to give check 6's to those women putting on make-up, but I have to keep a balance here.
On the way home I usually end up giving the person behind me the finger for not giving me a check 6 when some big butted SUV sneaks in my place on the merge, man I hate that, I took my time planning that ramp merge! :(
Then the worse non recieved check 6 of them all, when you decide to make a run at the yellow but the guy in front decides to stop! Darn it man!! Give me a check 6 will ya!!!
And then there's.....oooh,...you guys are talking about the game, aren't ya? Oh Oh, sorry, crap.
Bumba
AKA: Andrew
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ROFLMAO BUMBA
Originally posted by airbumba
I usaully start with one as i back out the driveway, ya know for tha cats, rodents and neighbours kids and such. I then go easy on the check 6's till I hit the main highway, boy that's when the fun starts.
I give check 6's for lane changes, letting trucks in and especially emergency vehicles, those are the important ones. I hate to have to give check 6's to those women putting on make-up, but I have to keep a balance here.
On the way home I usually end up giving the person behind me the finger for not giving me a check 6 when some big butted SUV sneaks in my place on the merge, man I hate that, I took my time planning that ramp merge! :(
Then the worse non recieved check 6 of them all, when you decide to make a run at the yellow but the guy in front decides to stop! Darn it man!! Give me a check 6 will ya!!!
And then there's.....oooh,...you guys are talking about the game, aren't ya? Oh Oh, sorry, crap.
Bumba
AKA: Andrew
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Hey I bounced fgumps 262 this morning but i had channel one squelched wonder what he said LOL.
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LOL airbumba...great post!
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This turned into a love fest way to quickly. For a while there I thought I was back in the World and Current Events forum back where I usually live.
Teedog, don't sweat it. See if any of the members of the squad remember my response to Stiglr over on the alt.games.warbirds site when he accused the Mongrels of Seal clubbing.
I was foaming at the mouth.