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Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Ripsnort on January 13, 2003, 02:23:03 PM
http://www.adn.com/24hour/weird/story/715609p-5256647c.html
Proposed new city rules would ban spitting, smoking, skateboarding, and stinking on city buses.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: AKDejaVu on January 13, 2003, 02:27:27 PM
Its not a law ripsnort.  Its a city ordinance.  Big difference.

Besides, SOB doesn't usually ride the bus.

AKDejaVu
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Ripsnort on January 13, 2003, 02:32:35 PM
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Its not a law ripsnort.  Its a city ordinance.  Big difference.

Besides, SOB doesn't usually ride the bus.

AKDejaVu


Oh don't be so stuffy technical! ;)

Decree, rule, order, regulation, edict,law whatever. :)
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: GRUNHERZ on January 13, 2003, 02:34:12 PM
So basically this is attempt to ban homeless people from city buses - where is the Orgeon ACLU on this?
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: WineMan on January 13, 2003, 02:36:14 PM
Funny this ordinance has been passed.  While at University, I used to drive the transit buses (natural gas and also 1940s London Double-Deckers) that were mainly utilized by the students.  One day a guy got on and sat right behind me - he smelled so bad that my eyes watered and my nose burned.  I'm not exagerrating, not even when I say I felt I could taste it it smelled so bad.  I had to open my window despite it being 30 degrees outside.  After he left, it took 30 minutes for the odor to dissipate!  I can remember saying to myself, "There oughta be a law...."
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: SOB on January 13, 2003, 03:31:08 PM
You can't ride the bus if...
"emanates a grossly repulsive odor that is unavoidable by other Bend Extended Area Transit customers"

I don't see anything wrong with that Grun.  If the bums don't like it, tough toejam.  Besides, this probably wouldn't garner enough media attention for the ACLU to get involved.


SOB

PS...I run into enough crazies on this BB, so I really don't need to ride the bus!  :D
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: GRUNHERZ on January 13, 2003, 03:38:40 PM
I used to ride the bus every day for a couple of years unltil I got my car a few years ago. The homeless did sometimes "smell" and were obviously dirty but I feel they have right to use public transport as long as they are not drunk, stoned, or clealy abusive or disruptive etc.  to other passengers and of course can pay.

I bet the ACLU is busy banning another insensitive Mark Twain book in some posh Seattle school to notice this problem - clealy something one could contest on moral grounds..
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: gofaster on January 13, 2003, 03:46:55 PM
Where did they get the cash?  Seems to me they should be spending that money on food instead of bus rides.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: SOB on January 13, 2003, 03:49:09 PM
Well, I do agree that the homeless should have the right to ride the bus, but I don't think that being homeless gives them a pass on the rules.  And I just want to clarify that there's a difference between smelly and putrid stank.  If I do need to ride the bus at some point, I don't want to be forced to sit in the same enclosed area with someone who's been pissing themselves for the last few days.


SOB
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: GRUNHERZ on January 13, 2003, 03:51:35 PM
I dont know exactly, but I do think they need to get around.

As I remember many of them had garbage bags full of aluminum cans and went around collecting them for some income from recycling.

From my experience on busses this law is clearly aimed at clearing them of homeless riders, and I think thats wrong.

Problem there is SOB whats putrid as opposed to just smelly? And who makes the decision? I think sooner or later people would be refused bus service because they might  "look" smelly.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Hangtime on January 13, 2003, 03:53:33 PM
hey, that reminds me... where's the con this year?
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: SOB on January 13, 2003, 03:54:20 PM
LOL
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: icemaw on January 13, 2003, 04:12:33 PM
I love it I want one for my customers. Sorry el stinko there is a shower outside go use it. Now if we can get one for people with dragon breath we be looking good.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: midnight Target on January 13, 2003, 04:12:35 PM
Any decent lawyer would sink that ordinance in a heartbeat.  Define "grossly repulsive odor". Someone is gonna complain about an Italian guy smelling of garlic and then the real repulsive smelling stuff will hit the fan.


No worries SOB.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: capt. apathy on January 13, 2003, 04:19:34 PM
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Where did they get the cash? Seems to me they should be spending that money on food instead of bus rides.
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no cash.  they look for used bus tickets, that still have time on them.  and it's not so much for transportation. you see a lot more homeless on the bus in winter.  

they just pick up used tickets and get an hour or so out of the weather where they can't get moved along for loitering.

everyone with the fare should be allowed to ride the bus. (I don't even care if they scrounge the ticket) But maybe they wouldn't be homeless if they understand basic rules like wash before going into public places.  surely even a homeless man can find a rag and some water to wash his bellybutton before ridding the bus.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: rc51 on January 13, 2003, 05:50:30 PM
Ruled me out LOL.
I fart way too much LOL
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: whgates3 on January 13, 2003, 07:04:47 PM
another victory for bend's limousine liberal retirees
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Ripsnort on January 13, 2003, 08:37:38 PM
I doubt theres many homeless in Bend, OR ...its a vacation town, white river rafting in the summer, skiing in the winter.  Stinky skiier's is more likely the case. :D

Bachelor is one of the greatest ski area's in the West, snow very similiar to Colorado's lite fluffs.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Vulcan on January 13, 2003, 08:53:24 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
I don't want to be forced to sit in the same enclosed area with someone who's been pissing themselves for the last few days.

SOB



Sorry SOB, I didn't realize the FDBs had broken up?
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Kanth on January 13, 2003, 11:40:14 PM
:D


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Originally posted by Vulcan
Sorry SOB, I didn't realize the FDBs had broken up?
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: SOB on January 14, 2003, 12:50:36 AM
LOL...we make Animal walk.


SOB
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: Karnak on January 14, 2003, 12:58:53 AM
GRUNHERZ,

Find me a single example of the ACLU banning any Mark Twain book anywhere.
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: whgates3 on January 14, 2003, 01:23:20 AM
ther could be a lot of homeless in bend - its an odd real estate market: residential is though the roof, commercial dirt cheap.  homeless in bend should open up a business named 'watch me sleep'
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: GRUNHERZ on January 14, 2003, 03:50:16 AM
I know what you mean Karnak about ACLU and huck finn, but the point still stands that I'm surprised that they havent challenged this and I think if they could challenge anything this would be it...
Title: New Oregon law, or "SOB, you gots some 'splaning to do!"
Post by: whgates3 on January 14, 2003, 01:37:01 PM
ACLU is very busy right now - civil rights law is maybe the only economic sector thats really booming