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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hitech on January 13, 2003, 07:35:44 PM
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An email I recieved today.
Hi, I'm somewhat new to AH...which I love very much... Best game on the internet, by far.
But I have a Question... It seems like when someone post something on the BBS... They get Ripped big time by other members...... Is this Normal??? I have been in several BBS mainly sports ones....but nothing like this one.... It's so bad I don't want to post anymore.
This is why i'm clamping down.
HiTech
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No explanation for your recent actions on the BBS is required HT..
Do whatcha gotta do. Popcorns hot, beers cold. Lemme know when yah need more.
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Sheesh.Ya wake up one day with a hangover and the world wants to give ya crapski.You get alot of that in the mail? I dont blame ya personaly.I though it was getting way to crazy myself and may I commend you on your spelling in this post sir?An exempleary example.
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Thanks for the warning HT but none needed.
Do what you need to do.
Let me know how I can help.
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The BBS (lately) has been kind of nostalgic. We used to be pretty brutal on USENET back when the unwashed masses started invading our network and peeing in the pool.
Then again, I remember when ARPANET used NCP (Host to Host protocol) so I'm kind of an old timer.
Ah well.
Have at 'em HT :)
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Was that e-mail send any chance by this guy?
"The rest of the night was spent holding Kimberly and trying to calm her tears while Borg enjoyed himself at the banquet. Feeling very much locked in our cell we took a walk on the beach together, this was somewhat healing, the surf and sand managed to calm us down a bit."
If one person can’t understand jokes or can’t take flame, why is he playing competitive game? How sensitive must one person be to run to mommy (hitech) and cry that big boys don’t play nice.
:rolleyes:
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I posted a question about the 152 being porked...
To get some info about the real plane and why it was so modeled,I got some great info
(ty to all that gave it)..
BUT all the BS that went with it was just childish.. LW whine and all that crapola... I am not a LW nut or anything like that.. I just was wanting to know why a PERK ride seemed so.. Well under performing at most real MA situations... I now get it.. ty HT for your taking the time to respond to some of those crazie posts that came with it... SORRY BACK ON POINT...
I was never going to ask a question here again because of the silly over the top response by some folks.......
HT you and the folks at your office r doing a great job..
Thanks again for a great time had by me and all the 81st we luv your product ... Don't let the few creeps get you down....
Ty gatr
81st fighter wing xo
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HiTech HTC WOO HOO!
Tumor
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Russion: It's not if a person can't take a joke. It's when it's get so out of hand it becomes the norm,infact it totaly cross the joke stage and gets plane abusive. Would you jump down some ones throut the first time you met the face to face. And if you did would you realy think it's there problem that they took offence?
HiTech
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me thinks there are a few bbs readers that follow you around and post useless bits after you post your messages htc.
oops. Guess I just did.
How bout you lock these 'questions to the editor' after you have answered them?
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Russian if just one took the time to e-mail hitech I bet there are 20 others in a month that feel the same way HTC never hear from. Many of those just might close their account because of BB abuse.
You want to be part of the growth of HTC or part of the stagnancy?
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I must be blind, I haven’t seen anyone get ripped unless they deserved it (which they did). Most just get small blisters but nothing major. If person approaches with idiocy and rudeness mixed with insults, they get flamed. If person asked normal question, they get normal answer. Simple rule to follow, No?
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I hate to see HTC spend the resources policing the BBS and the game for malcontents but the rapid expansion of the game, and the resulting stress from overpopulation apparently requires it.
HT, sorry, but what took so long?
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ah ha!
the true source of all the troubles in the sim... the luftwhiners. or luftwaffles. luftweeners. luftwuzzies. whutever.
BUT all the BS that went with it was just childish.. LW whine and all that crapola...
yah see, the true source...
...kurt tank is gay.
:D
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Do you ever wonder why the people that stir the crap on the BBS never make it to the CONN ??
btw I will be there this year :)
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Its ashame that HT has to devote any substantial amount of time to this weenie patrol, but its the price of the games success. Once the standards are set, and enforced, things will fall in place pretty quickly.
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A common (and very incorrect) assumption that is often made:
Everyone trying AH is an 'experienced' denizen of the internet/BBS/etc. environment.
Trust me when I say that you get alot of real life professional pilots that try AH and have never done anything on the internet before.
I played WB from the late beta stages (.98 or so if memory serves) until HT and PYRO 'left town'. My only previous 'online community' experience before WB was very professional usenet comms. I looked at both WB and AW and I never even tried AW because my first communications (which consisted of extremely innocent questions, asked after IDing myself as totally new to online flight sims) with the AW crowd resulted in lame bellybutton 'look how smart I am' pointless flamings.
Within 10 days of my starting to play WB, my entire house (5 guys) was playing WB 16+ hours a day on 2 computers (i.e. both computers running 8 hours a day, with guys taking turns on sorties - we had 2 active accounts at the house). That's 16 hours a day at $2/hour, back in '94-'95 or so. When the guys saw the 'attitude' of the AW crowd we came across (as opposed to 'ob-1' of WB, who basically blew 4+ hours of his free time a day for a week to give informal lessons to everyone at our house) no one dreamed of even trying AW.
Let me be clear - I don't assume all AW players were like the ones that insulted me, because I've been around the BBS environment for years now. But I did assume that back then...which makes the point that much clearer: there are people trying AH who are incapable of understanding alot of the 'inside jokes' of the BBS. If you take a 50 year old guy who's been flying all his life and has never spent time on the internet, and the BBS users don't know his background (if they did they'd probably treat him better than your average 'new guy'), odds are he's going to say 'screw this I'm back to playing golf' the first time some self appointed 'BBS god' decides to 'throw his weight around' in the only place he can - the make believe world of the 'BBS community'.
The only thing I can think of that might immediately help is giving BBS users a box to click when the register for the AH BBS - "Click here if you are trying AH online for the first time, or if you are trying an online game for the first time" - then put that guy's ID and topics started in red - so everyone knows he's 'clueless' when it comes to the very insider type of humor found on most BBS.
Mike/wulfie
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I think all of the insider humor is just a waste of bandwidth.
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I don't.
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Possably a good point
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Does this mean I can't say the Raiders suk?
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Not untill they lose
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Very good insight there wulfie.
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It is quite common on the other boards to have moderators who can somewhat control the discussion. AFAIK they are often just carefully selected bbs members who are not paid for what they do.
Could such approach work here? ... and answer before someone asks: "No, I am not volunteering for such job ;)". But maybe some others would be suitable and willing.
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How bout a zero tolerance policy?! You reply or create a post that is abusive, your IP is banned for a year. I would have no problem living by that rule. This would greatly facilitate the exchange of pertinant information that the BBS was intended for not the current state of I am bored let me insult somebody attitude that we have been experiencing since I have been a part of the community..
Any thoughts?
T0J0
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You should just treat others as you would want to be treated, it is as simple as that. Be nice to the new people especially.
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the reason people flame others because of what they fly is because they FIRMLY beleive that there way is the correct and ONLY way to fly and anyone that doesnt agree is dangerous to them so they have to try and make them do what they want (i hope you followed that)
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*pokes head out of hole and looks around*
sees the same ol' same ol'
*goes back into hole*
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HT:
IMO its the owner's privilege, and a damned good one to evoke. I have seen some of the posts get very personal in here and have always found it unnecessary. Simple respect can get lost from time to time, and must be moderated. At other times, guys will bring their arena squabbles in here also.
Someone has to squash it before this BBs gets completely out of hand.
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WTG Hitech.
My squad and myself have been here for just over a year now and love Aces High to bits. I have looked in from time to time on the BBs but much of the crap I have read has kept me from getting involved much (as you can tell by the number of posts associated with myself)
I find it hard to believe some of the responses to posts are anything other than the personal feeding of a bloated ego by seeing their long winded and insulting prose visible online.
Too bad Hitech has to expend the resources needed to police the BBs but I applaud him for doing so.
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DEMAN
81st CO
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Wulfie,
I started in AW during the old Genie days where I used Cris to get online through the old bb's.
On my very first day I got up and saw two planes flying formation about 3k away. I raced over a tried to put a few rounds into them. Next thing I got was a radio message calling me a handsomehunked dweeb and to stop shooting at my own countrymen.
Guess what? They were right. But I said,"sorry" and they didn't hold a grudge. Many newbys are kinda running around in the dark and most folks hold out a helping hand, no matter what game.
Nuff said about that. What I'm trying to say is,
in life, at work, at play, 98% of the people are
pretty upstanding and will help. However, they are the quiet ones. What everyone hear is the 2% that couldn't be pleased no matter what they do in life, work or gaming. Therefore, a question should be asked about tolerance. Should the rest of the community put up with a 2% malcontent group at the expense of the rest?
I think you may have run into the 2% group in AW. For that I'm truly sorry as you should have had the same right to experience a great game. I am glad that you were able to find WB and then on to here and look forward to shooting yer bellybutton down one of these days. :D
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Think about this:
Imagine if HT was able to use the time he spends policing the BB on improving the quality of the game. His plate is full as it is, and having to baby sit a bunch of useless comments on the BB simply wastes his and other staff members' time.
Everyone please make an effort to keep your posts to the point, and remember that name calling, squad bashing, country ridiculing, etc. do nothing but decrease the quality of the AH experience for many users. The BB is a wonderful tool for both new and old users. I have contributed to these childish antics, and will stop immediatley, as to help lead by example.
HT, you are doing a great job, and you have a big THANK YOU from the 81st Krewsaderz!!
Captain MaNiaCaL
~*81st*~ Strike Kamikaze Wing
~*81st*~ Krewsaderz
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Imagine there are no air planes.....its not hard to try.
Imagine there are no countries, AH would die.
Imagine all these people, not needing a BBS.....
Wooo hooo ooooooo....
Imagine there was no Luftwaffe. No one would die.
Imagine there were no arguments. No one would cry.
Imagine all these pilots....living in a world of blue...
Wooo hooo ooooooo....
Imagine there was no ground war.
Imagine no one was AH poor.
Imagine all these problems...stop repeating themselves....
Wooo hooo ooooooo....
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On my very first day I got up and saw two planes flying formation about 3k away. I raced over a tried to put a few rounds into them. Next thing I got was a radio message calling me a handsomehunked dweeb and to stop shooting at my own countrymen.
LMAO...Gawd that brings back a memory.My first flight I took off and there was a low buff just going away from the field.Almost as if he had just taken off.:rolleyes: I get behind him hands shaking and blow my entire wad hitting nothing.My first online flight sim.He was real cool about it tho.
Dont go by what ya hear right off the bat.There is a malcontent group that just wont be satisfied till everyone plays the game the right way.By that they mean THERE way.
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
I think you may have run into the 2% group in AW.[/B]
I have no doubt that I did. The crucial thing that (almost)everyone needs to understand is that alot of people trying AH for the first time are going to have no idea that the BBS usually equals the vocal minority of the online players.
Mike/wulfie
p.s. I can occasionally post to the AH BBS right now, but I won't be able to play AH (again) for at least 3-4 months. So when it comes to actually 'flying' in AH - I'll see you when I see you. :)
p.p.s. In case anyone was wondering, this is why I (temporarily) cancelled my AH account.
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Thanks a lot HiTech!
I'm sure these low class trash get their ego boost by undermining others but it sure drives away the ones who you care about.
Keep up the great work and could you please find a few trusted folks to do the same on the MA?
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Cripes, no one makes HT police the BBS, he chooses to. It's up to him if he wants to spend time policing the bbs instead of coding. As so many have pointed out, it's his company.
Besides, I thought community management was Skuzzy's baliwick.
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I was a police officer for 7 years in a rough city... I've heard every insult there is, and have probably been called every name in the book even though I always tried to do my best to serve the public. At first it was disheartening, and I took it a bit personally... Later, I learned that's just how it is... Whether HT likes it or not, he's right smack in the middle of a random grouping of human beings... Most behave properly, some do not... There will ALWAYS be a few people who for one reason or another just feel the need to irritate others. I don't envy his position one little bit, as he's trying to run a business and keep as many people as possible happy. A task that is quite impossible in my estimation.
Good luck HT, and more power to ya!
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Thrawn:
Besides, I thought community management was Skuzzy's baliwick.
Who do you think Skuzzy ask what to do when he is not sure?
When you own the company, everything is your responsiblity. And some things can only be done by the the guy in charge. This is one of them.
And your right I do choose to, but it is an issue I wish I didn't have to deal with.
HiTech
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Thrawn,
At least HT keeps an eye on his business... Most people would be content to just sit back and collect the money. I can't stand butt kissers, but I'll go out on a limb and say HT is trying his best to keep as many people as possible happy. Would you take the time to do that?
I just appreciate the fact that someone actually cares. $14 a month may not be a huge sum, but it's my money I'm paying, and I feel better paying it to someone who actually tries to practice the dying concept of customer satisfaction.
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Things that make you go.. hmmmmm
Ya know what makes me wonder HiTech? You own the company and administer it ...but I see guys with many times your post numbers on these message boards. How does one end up with that much free time on their hands???:confused:
DEMAN
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Thanks for your efforts here also HT.
Things do get a bit over the top on these boards. Its time to remind everyone to play nice I guess.
Just a question guys, what ever happened to posting about epic air battles or amazing dogfights? It seems all people do is complain and troll. :/
Lets get back to tales of the Rooks v Bishops and the knights sneak attacks.. anything a little more positive and entertaining.
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Originally posted by hitech
Who do you think Skuzzy ask what to do when he is not sure?
When you own the company, everything is your responsiblity. And some things can only be done by the the guy in charge. This is one of them.
And your right I do choose to, but it is an issue I wish I didn't have to deal with.
HiTech
I would think that as your business becomes bigger and your customer base grows, you would want to be delegating more of responsibilities?
Another way of dealing with the problem would be to give Skuzzy more authority. Then he would have to check with you as much. A cocise code of conduct would also help. Less ambiguity would make the need to consult less.
Although I understand that having a concise code of conduct will lead to rules lawyering.
It doesn't make much sense to me for the lead coder and president to be spending valuable time policing the BBS.
Anyways, there's my two cents.
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Here's an idea for HT ...
Take away Perk Points, kinda like mom sending you to bed without desert.
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It doesn't make much sense to me for the lead coder and president to be spending valuable time policing the BBS.
I agree with you on a day to day basis. But read my words, not what you want to hear. Some things can only be done by the boss.
Things have gotten out of hand, and now is one of those times.
HiTech
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The way I see it.....
The rules are HT's rules. He can be as specific or as vague as he chooses in codifying those rules. IMNSHO, the BBS (don't get me started on the Channel 1 "banter") HAS gotten out of hand of late, and I'm pleased that direct action is being taken. I can only state that the action is long overdue.
If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out. :rolleyes:
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< SLAP> SLAP
Way to smack em around HT...
Wahooo
Gatr 81st
XO Fighter wing
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Ok Gatr...warned you bout using "too many slaps" on 1 post!
You are now to spend 4 hours in the "SPECIAL ROOM". cya when you are done
DEMAN;)
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Deman u told me I had a weeks pass on ..
THE ROOM....... Sir
SLAPS ..SELF ouch!!!!
Gatr :)
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Beats being monkey slapped in Maryland all the way from Texas.Trust me.It aint pretty:confused:
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Mike/wulfie
p.s. I can occasionally post to the AH BBS right now, but I won't be able to play AH (again) for at least 3-4 months. So when it comes to actually 'flying' in AH - I'll see you when I see you.
p.p.s. In case anyone was wondering, this is why I (temporarily) cancelled my AH account.
Wulfie,
Hopefull this thread satisfied you fears that the whole arena/game isn't full bogus, whiney dudes. Lemme know if I can help ya when you get back in. :)
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Thank You HTC.
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Originally posted by hitech
I agree with you on a day to day basis. But read my words, not what you want to hear. Some things can only be done by the boss.
Things have gotten out of hand, and now is one of those times.
HiTech
There is no way this was posted by HT. There are NO mispelled words! Imposter!!! :D
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Let me tell ya mister.HT has the finest Monkeys around and they take CARE of him.Dont take my word for it but in the middle of your next post DONT ANSWER THE DOOR..Seriously.Im just trying to help.
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Any thoughts on providing an "Arena" area similar to what we had on GEnie where anything goes?
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I believe in what HiTech does in this matter,and I am 100% shure the community benefit from it.
That was my 0.2$
The Wild Vikings
Commanding Officer
(http://217.8.137.250/twv.gif)
Lasse
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SB
SB, I'd bet you could start a whole new thread on this subject and get plenty of responses. :D
The H2H arena's are just that. They fall under the name Free for all (FFA) and sometimes go so far as to making it almost impossible to get off the field without being vulched.
The CT arena has some beautiful maps (log into the
current combat arena) :) with nowhere near the numbers you see in the MA. You are restricted to period aircraft from time to time but it's alot of fun.
The TA is a good starting point to get yer old game under control again. The hit's are turned down almost to the point a kill is tough to accomplish. In fact, there appears to be only 7 ways you can die in there.
1) Someone with 30 mm's parks on yer 6 and blasts away. As they run outa ammo you end up with something missing.
2) You auger.
3) You attack an enemy field and ack/flak gets you.
4) The same with CV's they hit ya hard.
5) You run up the tailpipe of an enemy plane and die
6) You can rip yer wings
7) Your beacon light comes on and you get udp msg
telling you its switching to tcp...crash to desktop!
PRO'S- You can duel/practice merges just like the old genie days. You get to see the flashes as you light up yer enemy like a christmas tree without his going down. That way you get some gunnery/dogfighting time in with your buddies/sqaudmates.
CON'S- Since it's a training arena for newbys there is a tendency for a few (typical 2% minority) two week (or less) wonders who break every single rule posted. I'm sure this is the result of frustration. However, an easy fix is to operate from a distant field. The Pony has a shortfall in that fuel burn is almost non-existant(again a preset model for all planes in the training arena). The pony is modeled close to the real thing (sorta). So much that we all burn off the aux tank first so as to move the CG forward to a point where the plane performs better. In the training arena you cannot do this under the current settings.
Rats!!! There I go again...gabbing away. I probably need to sell my recliner laptop.:p
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Originally posted by DrDea/Kvorkian
I get behind him hands shaking and blow my entire wad
That's disgusting!!!
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;)
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Hey Hitech,
Most of the players of AH are decent so do a small miniscule favor.
BRING THE BREWSTER TO AH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
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SB
SB, I'd bet you could start a whole new thread on this subject and get plenty of responses. :D
I was speaking of the message boards, not a playing area :P
I'm in favor of stricter TOS enforcement on the regular boards but I'd like to see a FFA area on the boards that is clearly marked as that so that the flame fest people have a home too.
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They've had a home here for quite some time....can't see as they deserve a home of their own.
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Originally posted by aztec ]They've had a home here for quite some time....can't see as they deserve a home of their own.
Think of it as a wildlife refuge Aztec. I mean, I like lions and tigers as much as the next guy, I just don't want them wandering the streets :)
-Sik
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I guess the bottem line of this thread is that HTC dosn't want to sponser a place for people to abuse each other. For those of you who are into that, why not get some web space and get a BBQ board going?
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Originally posted by aztec
I guess the bottem line of this thread is that HTC dosn't want to sponser a place for people to abuse each other. For those of you who are into that, why not get some web space and get a BBQ board going?
I thought the bottom line of this thread was "this is why things are changing"
But I agree, an independant board wouldn't be a bad idea.
-Sik
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It saddens me that its got to this stage.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i reckon 90% of AH players are Adults and if a kid comes on to the BBS, what sort of an example are we setting?
Guys, i know i spout off in the MA but i can assure you it is all in good fun, if anyone takes offence i usually private an apology, but to rip people apart like i have seen some posts do in here defies belief sometimes.
We need to set a better example to the kids and newbies that i`m sure will frequent this BBS and take pride in the community that we are all a part of, not slam down the first person to ask a silly question or post a silly comment. Ignore the Thread if ya think its dumb, they will soon stop posting when they dont get the desired response.
Anyway, i`m not one to preach so have fun in the MA and to all.
PPS. Hitech, keep up the good work mate, utmost admiration fer the work u do. :p
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Impressive....we live in interesting times
:p
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Yea but whats that sucking sound?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Hammy
Anyway, i`m not one to preach
And one of the last people that should be doing so on this topic as far as Im concerned.
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OK whats going on did the sun rise in the west or something :confused:
Who are you and what have you done with our beloved Hammy :D :D
just Kidding Great post
ELK
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Can't believe I'm saying this but...... I agree with Hammy! :D
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I agree TOTALLY with Hammy. I just lost 200 perks for typing that. Really, I haven't posted as much as I used to because of the topic that most want to admit, and some want to pass off. I agree with what HT said. Meet them face to face, and a different story would be written.
Russian and Thrawn. Why are you worried about what HT IS or isn't doing?! That is FAR from your space to worry about. Relax and let's have some clean fun in the MA. You two should know better anyways.
Karaya2
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Originally posted by Hammy
if anyone takes offence i usually private an apology,
sorry hammy, i have yet to see this.
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Originally posted by SharkBait
Any thoughts on providing an "Arena" area similar to what we had on GEnie where anything goes?
There already is one, just not going to say where.
ack-ack
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This is going down hill fast gents. Was doing fine and suddenly 2 people do personal attacks on hammy, nothing related to what he said.
Play nice people.
HiTech
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Originally posted by Thrawn
It doesn't make much sense to me for the lead coder and president to be spending valuable time policing the BBS.
Originally posted by DEMAN
Ya know what makes me wonder HiTech? You own the company and administer it ...but I see guys with many times your post numbers on these message boards. How does one end up with that much free time on their hands???
What gives both of you the right to say something like that? It's HT's company, and guess what, he can do what ever he want's with his time. If part of it is spent helping out the community forums, then that is where his time goes.
Jez, next you'll be asking how much time he spends on the toilet and wondering why he takes 15 minutes a day in the can instead of kissing your butts all day.
I've been working with thankless community guys like this for over seven years. It's hard work to please the vocal minority. We got maybe 50 guys posting here daily and we have a knack to make Dale think the sky is falling for hundreds of HTC customers.
Bad community. Baaaad community.
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
What gives both of you the right to say something like that?
Peace brother :) I think deman was refering to people like me, who do not adminster or own the company, manage to post so much to the board, despite not having the valid reasons of company ownership and administration. He's way right in my case. I spend way too much time here.
-Sik
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Originally posted by hitech
This is going down hill fast gents. Was doing fine and suddenly 2 people do personal attacks on hammy, nothing related to what he said.
Play nice people.
HiTech
My personal attack was INDEED related to what he said! :D
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There is no way this was posted by HT. There are NO mispelled words! Imposter!!!
i thought that at the start to...as son as the crackdown started ht's spelling got ever so much better...GOOD JOB hitech
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As a member of another group with some loud and vigorous players I can understand.
Too bad you have to waste your time doing this as opposed to working on the game.
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HT, Please do not get to drawn into the BS of the community. You and your staff have a Great game. Kesmai used to get drawn into this all the time. Look what happened to them.
Assign a trusted member, or members of the Community to do this policing of the boards. Explain your gouls, make compensation equal to the task and you will have no trouble finding good Honest people to lighten this burden.
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Your gouls?
(http://www.homepageofthedead.com/films/night90/cemzom.jpg)
Here is a volunteer, only four brains a week.
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Originally posted by DEMAN
Ok Gatr...warned you bout using "too many slaps" on 1 post!
You are now to spend 4 hours in the "SPECIAL ROOM". cya when you are done
DEMAN;)
I think I shall go also, alsmot forgot that the "Special Room" is like. :)
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Originally posted by hitech
This is going down hill fast gents. Was doing fine and suddenly 2 people do personal attacks on hammy, nothing related to what he said.
Play nice people.
HiTech
Right, HiTech, I've been thinking to take this elsewhere if he chose to respond.
But... "nothing related to what he said"... I don't understand where you draw this from...
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ok dutchman, take what elsewhere and how do you want me to respond?
Ask Shane if i apologise in Private. He'll tell you that on more than one occasion i have apologised to him for things i have said and then thought "that was too much".
I wont apologise to you because when you attack u get personal and it shows the level of intelligence you have.
but like i said, what you want from me? if i can accomodate you i will.
HT dont worry about personal attacks on me mate, i`m big enough and ugly enough to look after myself, although i appreciate it :)
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Originally posted by Hammy
ok dutchman, take what elsewhere and how do you want me to respond?
Ask Shane if i apologise in Private. He'll tell you that on more than one occasion i have apologised to him for things i have said and then thought "that was too much".
I wont apologise to you because when you attack u get personal and it shows the level of intelligence you have.
but like i said, what you want from me? if i can accomodate you i will.
HT dont worry about personal attacks on me mate, i`m big enough and ugly enough to look after myself, although i appreciate it :)
Hammy, you are mistaken. You did say something offensive to me online in the MA which you have dismissed my claims then. What I am saying here is if you would like a discussion on that matter, I will explain where I am coming from.
I have never claimed anything about your intelligence, which you do about mine here. This is uncalled for don't you think? This is the type of thing what Hitech would like to avoid here. Please refrain from this type of comments, because I am trying to be polite as well.
Btw, if you remember what you said to me online, and would like to discuss it, then email me at gag01475@nifty.ne.jp
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People who thread flame just for the sake of sounding off are the same people who treat a waiter like crap. Why? Because the can. Stupid is as stupid does. However, never enrage the people who handle your food. That's just common sense. How does this relate to the BBS? I have no idea, but there's a parallel there some where....
More to the point, the anonynimity of BBS' bring out the jackhole in some people. Opinions(another word for oscarhole) tend to rise to the surface pretty easily. Best to turn away and breath some fresher air from somewhere else for a moment and let it pass.
Hmm, my own post smacks of opinion.... Not to worry, my schiznat don't stink. ;)
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YA know its a shame that someone new can ask a totally stupid question out of not knowing the game,no fault of theres and the Hard core group will bust on them like baby seals.Kinda bad for the game.Bad for the community,and bad for the games rep.This place has turned into a divided community.You have those that will stir trouble,those that try to hold it back and those that everytime HT posts someone is rideing roughshod over someone and outta line that all line up to say WTFG HT when alot of times its the same people causeing the crap that congrad HT first.Go back and look at the clamp down thread.The usual suspects all jumped on that like flies of crap.All going WTG HT.People just trying this game out deserve at least a chance to get there feet before some of you Ace holier than tho types jump there bellybutton to show your Alfa male attributes.And dont be so quick to praise HT for shutting someone down.Ive seen a toejamload of you do worse.Flame away. And please people.Pay attention to who does the flaming:mad:
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DrDea i am suitably impressed :)
You are thinking the same way i am, but the difference between me and "some" others is I will admit that i sound off and jump on people. I dont pretend to be an angel because i know i am far from it but i dont go to the extremes like alot of people do.
FDutchman, I honestly dont remember what it is I have supposed to have said that obviously upset you so much that you feel you have to bring it on to the BBS and a Hitech thread at that, but if you would like to enlighten me, in fact enlighten us all here on the BBS then if I feel that i overstepped the mark, i will PUBLICLY apologise (here) on the BBS and hopefully that will be the end of that.
I dont play this game to antagonise people, but to have fun, but like any Human Being I get frustrated and sound off but I am not the only one. I do however notice that you FDutchman are the first to pounce and respond to anyone who is unfortunate enough to be playing at the same time as you, even if the person wasnt talking to you in the first place.
So maybe theres a Pot and a Kettle in here somewhere?
Hammy
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"You are thinking the same way i am, but the difference between me and "some" others is I will admit that i sound off and jump on people. I dont pretend to be an angel because i know i am far from it "
Hammy.Im sending you a krispy cream donut for having the dunkin munchkins to say that.:)
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YUMMY
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"...but like any Human Being I get frustrated and sound off...".
Maybe that's part of the problem. A lot of people seem to think it's normal behaviour to sound off on channel 1 when things don't go their way. Trust me, there are a lot people who manage not to.
bowser
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Originally posted by bowser
"...but like any Human Being I get frustrated and sound off...".
Maybe that's part of the problem. A lot of people seem to think it's normal behaviour to sound off on channel 1 when things don't go their way. Trust me, there are a lot people who manage not to.
bowser
maybe not everyone has pets, children or small electrical appliances to kick?
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Originally posted by Hammy
I do however notice that you FDutchman are the first to pounce and respond to anyone who is unfortunate enough to be playing at the same time as you, even if the person wasnt talking to you in the first place.
So maybe theres a Pot and a Kettle in here somewhere?
Hammy
Hammy... do you not realize that this is the type of comments that tick people off and also confuses the issue at hand? I must really question what the motive of such a statement. Are you really there not to antagonize people as you claim?
Furthermore, as Hitech requested implicitly, I would rather do this elsewhere because as you also said, this is personal, and, as Hitech wants, not suited for this BBS.
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Confuse the issue?
The issue changed when you had a go at me. You want me to be like a pet and sit and wag my tail while you people tell me off?
Well i got news for you, you insult me, I will insult you back. You question me, I will question you back. You pick faults with me, I will pick faults back.
Like it or lump it FDutchman, I'm no ones lackey least of all yours, but like I said earlier, IF I have said something personal that i think was out of order i WILL apologise for it but I really think you need to grow up a little and stop dwelling on what I've said in the past.
I have also said I'm no angel and i admit to yelling on chan 1 but am I the only one? Do you really feel so strongly that you need to take things SO personally?
People who live in Glass Houses should not throw stones, thats the only point I'm trying to make here, and i was also trying to show some support for the community as a whole but then I get jumped on by 2 people!!
Well if this is what the BBS is all about, I will stop posting and just ignore everyone who jumps on me, because quite frankly i couldnt give 2 monkeys how people perceive me to be, but be warned, if you start on me, then I will defend myself in the same manner.
to everyone who matters and FD i have sent you an email so i await your response. :rolleyes:
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When do you plan on apologizing to the 30 odd people you enraged when you made clear your opinion on whether or not the US "deserved" 9/11 on channel 1?
Or perhaps your insulting remarks towards the US military, drawing on your obviously extensive experience, no less?
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I like beer :D
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you obviously misinterpreted what i said as well as Thrawn did
I did NOT say that the US deserved 7/11, u are now trying to put words into my mouth. what i DID say that what goes around comes around and that the USA are not entirely blameless.
Just in case you missed that last comment i will repeat it :
what i DID say that what goes around comes around and that the USA are not entirely blameless
I certainly do not condone any form of terrorist action by ANYONE but we have to look at our own skeletons b4 we can sort out other countries.
I come from the UK and i believe that we are as much to blame for what goes on in the World today as anybody.
Einstein said: with every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
perhaps you should bear this in mind eh?
But to be true to my word, if I DID upset anyone then i apologise who;leheartedly but it would greatly help matters if people didnt try to twist words and opinions to suit their own purposes.
So you can bugger off now and leave me alone too coz you got the apology you wanted.
God, why do i feel as if i`m wasting my time here?????
besides saurdakur or whoever you are, whats your cpid in the MA then seeing as you hiding behind an alias? I like to know who is slagging me off.:rolleyes:
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It is a shame that the Newb's that come in get run off or slammed on. It would be interesting to see if any of the ones doing the slammin' got a trainers coupon.
For everybody that is mad, peved or round about hostile in any form......go run a lap or ten, stick your wee-willy in a knot hole, or take a cold shower.
If HT is serious about clamping down on the ragging and abuse then don't let the ones that won't change drag you down with them.
Anyway if I set anyone off then I apologize way in advance.
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woohoo! 100:D
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Originally posted by Hammy
Well i got news for you, you insult me, I will insult you back. You question me, I will question you back. You pick faults with me, I will pick faults back.
Cool down baby. I cannot recall ever insulting you even on this thread. Questioning is fine, but I don't recall ever mentioning anything about your intelligence. Do you really feel that you are making an impression to me or this community that a mature communication can take place with me or with any other member of this community, especially with the way you are responding now?
Thank you for the email, I've got it. But, I ask you to take a moment first before I respond, because what I am trying to do is seek understanding and acceptance why what you said in the past can be offensive while at this very moment you don't think so. Apology to me or to the public is secondary and it is not even a goal for me. You can do that if you wish... However, at the moment, I am afraid that you will not be able to take it the way I intend.
So, why did I even bother to reply to this thread in the first place? Because I just couldn't believe where the message was coming from. (I'm sorry for that HiTech, I couldn't hold myself back... If you want no more of this, please feel free to gag me.) We are saying to set examples to kids or newbies and be a model for them... when even on this thread we can't even handle ourselves properly. Look at the way this is going. Is this really a conversation between grown-ups? Can you see that a sensitive topic like 9-11 or WW2 for that matter can blow up and result in unintended consequences? It would be worse if this had political slurs or religious slurs in it. I can think of even worse situations... I would ask myself twice if I want my kids to involved in this kind of mess.
I think I am done with this thread.
As for the email, you have made it clear that you have "an eye for an eye" policy, which means that if you take it wrongly, you will rub me wrongly. This is a no win situation for both of us. Until you can assure me that you have dropped this policy, I choose wait to respond.
Yours Truly,
Osamu Ida
aka Flying Dutchman
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So you can bugger off now and leave me alone too coz you got the apology you wanted.
Henh..
that right under your 'clarification':
what i DID say that what goes around comes around and that the USA are not entirely blameless
means yer as full of stuff as yer boxing day goose.
At this point, I don't think I'd be satisfied with any apology from you that did not include yer bleedin head on the end of a stake.
What goes around comes around indeed.
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HT, time to lock your own thread??
Jeez, gents, too much testosterone.
What the hell it's going on in this community??
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Guys, Take this stuff else where.
HiTech