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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 10Bears on January 14, 2003, 02:08:19 PM
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There is nothing better than a well spoken and concise argument.
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liberals do make the best entertainers and "artists".
lazs
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I don't get it :)
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Republicans have been on the wrong side of every issue of concern to ordinary Americans; Social Security, the war in Vietnam, equal rights, civil liberties, church- state separation, consumer issues, public education, reproductive freedom, national health care, labor issues, gun policy, campaign-finance reform, the environment and tax fairness. (http://www.evilgopbastards.com/)
No political party could remain so consistently wrong by accident. The only rational conclusion is that, despite their cynical "family values" propaganda, the Republican Party is a criminal conspiracy to betray the interests of the American people in favor of oligarchic and corporate interests and absolutist religious groups.
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Originally posted by weazel
...No political party could remain so consistently wrong by accident. The only rational conclusion is that, despite their cynical "family values" propaganda, the Republican Party is a criminal conspiracy to betray the interests of the American people in favor of oligarchic and corporate interests and absolutist religious groups.
Man, all them faincy wurdz. Whut siz iz yer hait, cuz u must hav a awfly big haid to hol all them big wurdsz!:rolleyes:
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Stop yelling at meeeeeee.
GET OUT OFFFF MYYYYY MINDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
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Originally posted by weazel
Republicans have been on the wrong side of every issue of concern to ordinary Americans; Social Security, the war in Vietnam, equal rights, civil liberties, church- state separation, consumer issues, public education, reproductive freedom, national health care, labor issues, gun policy, campaign-finance reform, the environment and tax fairness. (http://www.evilgopbastards.com/)
No political party could remain so consistently wrong by accident. The only rational conclusion is that, despite their cynical "family values" propaganda, the Republican Party is a criminal conspiracy to betray the interests of the American people in favor of oligarchic and corporate interests and absolutist religious groups.
SSSHHHH!!!!!
Dammit you fool, if you let them know you're on to our secret, how do you expect to stay safe?
Hmmm, lets see here:
Vietnam - The majority of troops were sent over by Kennedy and Johnson, Dems
National health care - Oh yea, the US was really behind Hillary on this
Campaign finance - Last I checked, McCain said he was a Republican. Of course your Dem elected officials would have noticed that if they weren't neck deep in the trough. "Paging Mr. Torriceli, Mr. Torriceli, white paging phone please."
Tax fairness - Giggle...sorry can't even start on that one
Gun control - Damn that pesky 2nd amendment. It lets the unwased masses have guns and other scary stuff.
You know, there hasn't been this much reality-denying, hand-wringing, woe-is-us-and-you-too-if-you-were-just-smart-enough-to-realize-it, dont you all realize what's happening, angst since...well, since Southern Democrats tried to prevent desegregation.
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So wiezelle you are saying you are a liberal democrat...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So wiezelle you are saying you are a liberal democrat...
Seems to me he's claiming to be a Not-a-republican.
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Originally posted by lazs2
liberals do make the best entertainers and "artists".
lazs
I find you entertaining lazs. You are an "artist" at what you do.
:)
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Are you forgetting the import ban on assault rifles was imposed by the first Bush Administration in 1989.
:p There are two sides to the gun debate or did you just assume I was anti-gun?
As far as your argument about desegregation and "southern democrats" goes a picture is worth a thousand words.... Ronbo must have been reaaallll proud of his "porch monkey"....he even had his picture taken with it for LOOK magazine in 1966.
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I recognize Grunhertz, but who's the actor looking dude standing next to him? The guy looks tough.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Seems to me he's claiming to be a Not-a-republican.
No, I think he's claiming to be Not-So-Mentally-Balanced-Person.
But he does entertain, kind of like that little organ grinder monkey.
Cobra
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Weazel,
My father-in-law has a yard statue just like that. He's a staunch democrat.
Shuckins
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Shuckins, your father in law has a lawn statue of Ronald Reagan and he's a Democrat?? You would think he'd have a lawn statue of JFK.
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Different Day Same Shit....show that the republicans and especially the so-called "conservatives" to be hypocrites and get accused of mental illness.
I'm rapidly losing any respect for you Cobra.
Your a smart guy, can't you do any better than to reuse a standard Groinhurtz insult...or are you as ignorant as he is?
You sure sound like you are.
Originally posted by Cobra
No, I think he's claiming to be Not-So-Mentally-Balanced-Person.
But he does entertain, kind of like that little organ grinder monkey.
Cobra
Shuckins, racism crosses party lines, so no argument on that point.
But you have to admit there sure seem to be a lot of them that are republicans.....and chimpy sure likes Pickering doesn't he?
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Airhead,
He did have one of Clinton for awhile, but had to get rid of it. It kept dropping its pants in front of the lady-peas.
Shuckins
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Hehe Weazel,
I'm just pokin' a stick at ya...sry!
I just think you get too worked up over this. And before you accuse me of being apathatic, I'm not. I participate in the process alot. Hell, my wife even became a citizen so she could vote. I do it locally, like Tip O'Neill always said...All politics are local.
But I do it at the level I feel to make a difference. In the school system. Volunteering at that level.
Seriously, I don't think I ever stated my political leaning....you are assuming too much.
Cobra
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LOL I had a hula-girl ink pen that did that bout twenty years ago. It was cool, I think a FTB stole it from me.
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Don't you ever try to compare me with George "chimpy" Bush again! :D
But he does entertain, kind of like that little organ grinder monkey.
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LOL!
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10bears, THIS (http://clanknm.homeip.net/open.html) is how its supposed to look :D
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ahh its broken! carry on...
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Conservatives not having American interests at heart LOL, considering it's pretty much 50-50.
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"I find you entertaining lazs. You are an "artist" at what you do.
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I never did see what was wrong with the "porch monkey" thing ( I called em lawn jockies) and why it ok to have one in white face.
lazs
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Originally posted by 10Bears
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Hehe.
Okay, 10bears. How would you describe this person since you like political profiling:
~Votes issues, not party
~Issues usually land on the right of center, not left.(not registered for either party)
~Votes for Dems as well, depending on the current issue at stake.
~Dislikes both parties, and votes what they perceive as the lessor of two evils, since voting libertarian is a wasted vote(and issues they disagree with)
~Split on many issues in the realm of Pro-choice (shouldn't be in politics at all IMO)
~Thinks John McCain was the best choice for the 2000 election
~Thinks both candidates from left and right sucked in the 2000 election.
~Dislikes Rush Limbaugh (thinks of Rush more as entertainment than factual)
~Thoroughly respects deeply religious folks because the person could not maintain the moral and ethical issues they maintain day to day.
~Listens to talk radio, both liberal and conservative talk show hosts, to get an overall perspective from both sides, then decides for themselves, rather than following "party lines".
How would you profile this person?
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Originally posted by Airhead
Shuckins, your father in law has a lawn statue of Ronald Reagan and he's a Democrat?? You would think he'd have a lawn statue of JFK.
This was the best one of the thread, Airhead, you owe me a keyboard.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hehe.
Okay, 10bears. How would you describe this person since you like political profiling:
~Votes issues, not party
~Issues usually land on the right of center, not left.(not registered for either party)
~Votes for Dems as well, depending on the current issue at stake.
~Dislikes both parties, and votes what they perceive as the lessor of two evils, since voting libertarian is a wasted vote(and issues they disagree with)
~Split on many issues in the realm of Pro-choice (shouldn't be in politics at all IMO)
~Thinks John McCain was the best choice for the 2000 election
~Thinks both candidates from left and right sucked in the 2000 election.
~Dislikes Rush Limbaugh (thinks of Rush more as entertainment than factual)
~Thoroughly respects deeply religious folks because the person could not maintain the moral and ethical issues they maintain day to day.
~Listens to talk radio, both liberal and conservative talk show hosts, to get an overall perspective from both sides, then decides for themselves, rather than following "party lines".
How would you profile this person?
This person must be a liberal since he thought someone besides George Bush should have been nominated.
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Originally posted by lazs2
liberals do make the best entertainers and "artists".
lazs
I find you entertaining lazs. You are an "artist" at what you do.
:p
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Better watch out Weazel, the universe is curved don't ya know. Go to far left and ya might wind up on the right.
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Originally posted by weazel
This person must be a liberal since he thought someone besides George Bush should have been nominated.
You're pretty close...read on:
REPUBLICANS ARE THE TRUE CLASSICAL LIBERALS.
MISCONCEPTION
Democrats are liberals and moderate socialists.
TRUTH
Democrats, whether or not they realize it, are playing a dangerous game and advocate what is actually a fascist and mercantilist society.
Consider the following:
Economically speaking—
CAPITALISM: business is privately owned, and privately controlled.
COMMUNISM: business is collectively owned, and collectively controlled.
SOCIALISM: business is government owned, and government controlled.
FASCISM: business is privately owned, but government controlled (what most Democrat politicians want).
Politically speaking—Fascism is the extreme rule of law and control of human activity (i.e., “authoritarianism,” commonly and mistakenly called, “totalitarianism”). In this respect, it differs from Stalinist socialism only in the ownership of property. Since property is controlled by the state in both instances, this is only a matter of form.
Democrats in this country are often called “socialists”—just as Hitler’s Nazis were called “National Socialists,” but were really fascists.
Democrats advocate a paternalistic, “big-brother” style of government—just like the Nazis. Some critics call it the “nanny-state.”
In the 1960s, Democrat politicians translated Nazi gun-control laws, and passed them as the Gun Control Act of 1968. Democrats now propose other Nazi-inspired laws, including the banning of handguns—just like Adolph Hitler, the inventor of handgun control.
Democrat politicians and the so-called “liberal” media consistently use variations of the big-lie technique—just like the Nazis.
The big-lie technique was pioneered by the Nazi minister of propaganda, Dr. Josef Göebels. The theory is, the bigger the lie, and the louder and more often you tell it, the easier it is for the public to believe it. The technique was successful because the basically honest public had little insight into the mind of a liar, and instinctively reasoned that no one would dare tell a lie that big.
One of the modern variations developed by Democrats is the many-lie technique, where so many lies are told that we develop a blasé attitude toward the problem.
Another technique, foretold by George Orwell in his once-futuristic book, 1984, is the use of double-speak (called newspeak in Orwell's book), where terminology is used to mean the opposite of what it sounds like—witness the misuse of the word, “liberal.”
Leading Democrat, Ted Kennedy, as quoted in the January 28, 2002 issue of U.S.News & World Report, smiled and described yet another technique: “...you take someone’s argument and you misrepresent it and you misstate it and you disagree with it. ...It’s very effective. I’ve done it myself a number of times.”
The result of the big lies, the many small lies and double-speak is seen in the big truth effect, where the truth now seems so farfetched that people have trouble accepting it—witness the difficulty many will have with this essay.
Democrats and other so-called “liberals” attempt “thought-control”—just like the Nazis—through government schools, control of the major media outlets and journalism schools, day-care, dumbed-down politically correct (PC) textbooks and curriculum, so-called “liberal” faculties at most colleges and universities, government funding (i.e., censorship) of the arts and of public TV and of public radio, forced unionization of government workers, regulations, hate-crime legislation, and so on. They are now using scare tactics in their attempt to reign-in a predominantly libertarian internet. Many radical feminists, multi-culturalists, PCers and victim-mongers advocate censorship and destroy publications—just like the Nazis.
Democrats excel in the use of the politics of envy, hatred and division—just like the Nazis—and emphasize our differences, rather than celebrate our commonalities. They try to pit us against each other by using classist terminology such as upper-class, middle-class, lower-class, working-class, white-collar and blue-collar, or by hyphenating us into rich-Americans, poor-Americans, far-right, far-left, Asian-Americans, white-Americans, Afro-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, native-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, straight-Americans, gay-Americans, urban-Americans, rural-Americans, and on and on and on. In the attempt to divide us, most Democrat leaders today engage in scapegoating—just like the Nazis.
Democrats, led by Woodrow Wilson, ran most blacks out of government—just as later their ideological cousins, the Nazis, ran the Jews out of government.
Democrats have reduced opportunities for minorities, by regulating away those opportunities, and by opposing school choice. The result has been that large segments of minorities remain isolated in the ghetto—just as the Nazis did with the Jews.
Democrats have enslaved large segments of minorities within the barb-wire of “welfare”—just as the Nazis enslaved minorities within the barb-wire of the concentration camps.
Speaking of which, Democrats invented the modern concentration camp. The Nazi concentration camps were modelled on British concentration camps used during the Boer War, which were modelled on the horrific prisoner of war camps created by Democrats during our Civil War.
Democrats and other so-called “liberals” use pseudo-religious justification of their agenda—just like the Nazis. They attempt to misrepresent, twist and misquote the teachings of the major religious writings of the world, especially in the case of the Judeo-Christian Bible. Toward that end, they have infiltrated many religious organizations and schools, and have created misleading presentations of religious stories and lessons in the entertainment industry and literature.
Many so-called “liberals” are preoccupied with initiatory societies, mystery cults, ancient beliefs, paganism, myths, fantasy and pop-theology—as were many Nazis. Surprisingly, most of these philosophical systems agree with the Judeo-Christian teaching (and Newton’s Second Law of Thermodynamics) that all actions have consequences; therefore, we are responsible for our own actions and conditions. The irony here—as it was under the Nazis—is that these so-called “liberals” still insist on victim-mongering and scapegoating.
Democrats and other so-called “liberals” and “moderates” allow what most pro-life Republicans consider the ultimate hate crime—abortion. Democrats have even been at the forefront in the battle to legalize partial-birth and after-birth “abortions”—considered by many pro-choice and pro-life Republicans to be a sacrifice of a child to the god of convenience.
Many so-called “liberal” politicians act as if they believed that they are above the laws of God, the laws of cause-and-effect and the laws of men—just like the Nazis.
Many Democrats and other so-called “liberals,” playing God, work within the philosophy that the end justifies the means—as did the Nazis.
So-called “liberals” use pseudo-scientific justification of their agenda—just like the Nazis.
Democrats and other so-called “liberals” are often responsible for the invasion of our privacy, in the name of the public good and protection of our children—just like the Nazis.
It is not an exercise in name-calling to point out that the Democrats are obviously a fascist party.
What is less obvious is that the Democrats are mercantilists, not capitalists or socialists. Mercantilism is an effort to achieve economic unity and political control using policies designed to keep the state prosperous by economic regulation, primarily for the benefit of a few elites. Democrats are reactionaries, not liberals. Mercantilism is an ancient system, responsible for many wars. Republicans, the true historical liberals, favor the free-market of capitalism, which is more conducive to peace.
Democrats and so-called “liberals” have shaped the political discussion so thoroughly that accepted political terminology is Orwellian double-speak.
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"Democrats advocate a paternalistic, “big-brother” style of government—just like the Nazis. Some critics call it the “nanny-state.”
Seems to me the currrent president is the biggest advocate of the "nanny state" with the changes he's made so far.
As far a "double speak" goes that wall of text is chock full of "newspeak" goodness. ;)
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Originally posted by weazel
Seems to me the currrent president is the biggest advocate of the "nanny state" with the changes he's made so far.
Thanks to Al Queda, yup. Don't blame them either.
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just because hitler was wrong on every other thing he ever did is no reason to believe that he may be wrong on gun control.
lazs
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MT... it's probly a shame that only liberals can appreciate me.
lazs
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If so then you deserve to lose liberty, we've become a nation of yellow backed spine-less dogs.
A bunch of rutabagas hiding from big bad osama...what's next..adopting Islam & sharia law so he won't attack us anymore?
Oh I know the answer...lets go get that evil-doer saddam and forget about the task we SHOULD be focusing on......right?
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thanks to Al Queda, yup. Don't blame them either.
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I have only one firm belief about the American political system, and that is this: God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat.
God is an elderly or, at any rate, middle-aged male, a stern fellow, patriarchal rather than paternal and a great believer in rules and regulations. He holds men strictly accountable for their actions. He has little apparent concern for the material well-being of the disadvantaged. He is politically connected, socially powerful and holds the mortgage on literally everything in the world. God is difficult. God is unsentimental. It is very hard to get into God’s heavenly country club.
Santa Claus is another matter. He’s cute. He’s non-threatening. He’s always cheerful. And he loves animals. He may know who’s been naughty and who’s bee nice, but he never does anything about it. He gives everyone everything they want without thought of a quid pro quo. He works hard for charities, and he’s famously generous to the poor. Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one: There is no such thing as Santa Claus.
The American political system is like a gigantic Mexican Christmas fiesta. Each political party is a huge piñata—a papier-mâché donkey, for example. The donkey is filled with full employment, low interest rates, affordable housing, comprehensive medical benefits, a balanced budget, and other goodies. The American voter is blindfolded and given a stick. The voter then swings the stick wildly in every direction, trying to hit a political candidate on the head and knock some sense into the silly bastard.
When you looked at the Republicans you saw the scum off the top of business. When you looked at the Democrats you saw the scum off the top of politics. Personally, I prefer business. A businessman will steal from you directly instead of getting the IRS to do it for him. And when Republicans ruin the environment, destroy the supply of affordable housing, and wreck the industrial infrastructure, at least they make a buck off it. The Democrats just do these things for fun.
Democrats are also the party of government activism, the party that says government can make you richer, smarter, taller and get the chickweed out of your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work, and then they get elected and prove it. One philosophy is not necessarily an improvement on the other, but if you want the tooth fairy to come, you’ve got to have some teeth under your pillow.
PJ O'Rourke, Parliment of potatos
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Originally posted by weazel
If so then you deserve to lose liberty, we've become a nation of yellow backed spine-less dogs.
A bunch of rutabagas hiding from big bad osama...what's next..adopting Islam & sharia law so he won't attack us anymore?
Oh I know the answer...lets go get that evil-doer saddam and forget about the task we SHOULD be focusing on......right?
Can you tell me how you're directly affected today other than airport security checks? My life hasn't changed a bit personally.
Good one Dune! :p
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Jebus is king!
George Bush is Jebus!
God save the king!