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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Airscrew on January 16, 2003, 09:41:34 AM
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A little something my Dad sent me this morning
Dear Civilians,
We know that the current state of affairs in our great nation have
many civilians up in arms and excited to join the military. For those
of you who can't join, you can still lend a hand. Here are a few of the areas we would like your assistance with:
1) The next time you see an adult talking during the playing of the
National Anthem ... kick their ass.
2) When you witness firsthand someone burning the American Flag in
protest ... kick their ass.
3) Regardless of the rank they held while they served, pay the
highest amount of respect to all veterans. If you see anyone doing
otherwise, quietly pull them aside and explain how these Veterans
fought for the very freedom they bask in every second. Enlighten them on the many sacrifices these Veterans made to make this Nation great. Then hold them down while a disabled Veteran kicks their ass.
4) If you were never in the military, DO NOT pretend that you were.
Wearing battle dress uniforms (BDU's), telling others that you used to be "Special Forces," and collecting GI Joe memorabilia, might have been okay if you were still seven. Now, it will only make you look stupid and get your bellybutton kicked.
5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir," stand
back... the Marine will kick their ass.
6) Next time you come across an Air Force member, do not ask them,
"Do you fly a jet?" Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. Such ignorance deserves an bellybutton kickin (children are exempt).
7) Roseanne Barr's singing of the National Anthem is not a blooper
... it was a disgrace and disrespectful. Laugh, and sooner or later
your bellybutton will be kicked.
8) Next time Old Glory prances by during a parade, get on your damn
feet and pay homage to her by placing your hand over your heart.
Quietly thank the military member or veteran lucky enough to be
carrying her... of course, failure to do either of those could earn
you a severe bellybutton kicking.
9) What Jane Fonda did during the Vietnam War makes her the enemy.
The proper word to describe her is "traitor." Just mention her
nomination for "Woman of the Year" and get your bellybutton kicked..
10) Don't try to discuss politics with a military member or a
veteran. We are Americans and we all bleed the same regardless of our
party affiliation. Our Chain of Command, is to include our commander
in Chief. The President (for those who didn't know) is our CIC
regardless of political party.. We have no inside track on what
happens inside those big important buildings where all those "representatives" meet. All we know is that when those civilian representatives screw up the situation, they call upon the military to go straighten it out. The military member might direct you to Oliver North. (I can see him kicking your bellybutton already.)
11) "Your mama wears combat boots" never made sense to me ... stop
saying it! If she did, she would most likely be a vet and probably
kick your ass!
12) Bin Laden and the Taliban are not communists, so stop saying
"Let's go kill those Commie's!!!" And stop asking us where he is!!!! Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me ... if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers; let me know, so I can go kick their ass.
13) Bus Driver, Jar Head, Grunt, Swabbie etc, are terms of endearment
we use describing each other. Unless you are a service member or vet,
you have not earned the right to use them. Could get your bellybutton kicked.
14) Last but not least, whether or not you become a member of the
military, support our troops and their families. Every Thanksgiving and
religious holiday that you enjoy with family and friends please
remember that there are, literally, thousands of troops overseas
wishing they could be with their families. Thank God for our military
and the sacrifices they make every day. Without them, our country
would get its bellybutton kicked.
VN Vet.
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Ill kick my own bellybutton if I don't follow those rules..
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Hehe, great one.
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ok, WTF is "old glory"?
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lol...all you have to do to get your arse kicked is try to invade russia (only been successfully invaded ONCE over 1000 years ago
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Originally posted by Swoop
ok, WTF is "old glory"?
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The nickname for the American Flag, I believe the term was coined in the Civil War, if not the war of 1812 against those Bloody war-mongering British.
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Doh. Obvious......
And it's the English that are the warmongers, the British just do the fighting for em.
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To save me the trouble in case I'm (or funked who copied it from me btw) not here when the invevitalbe liberals call us all facists, Here's my response to them:
Death to Amreeka!
:D
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What do you do if a Veteran burns a flag?
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
What do you do if a Veteran burns a flag?
The flag, once old, is supposed to be burned for disposal. I'd salute him and give him a new flag. :D
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LOL... you know what I meant. :)
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lol, MajTom, thanks :D
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The world's gone mad.
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What utter BS.
Talking during the national anthem is protected by the constitution - one that military personnel have sworn to preserve.
Same with burning of the flag. Also should be noted that physically assaulting someone is a criminal offence.
Respect to veterans. I'll respect them as humans though - serving doesn't mean automatic respect. What it gives them is more respect to lose by behaving like children or being idiots. The rest I agree with. Of course I'd not participate in the beating of someone just because he or she exercised her rights guaranteed in the consitution.
Number 4, absolutely agreed. 5, dunno. No marines here. 6, Also sound. 7, very true. Dunno what Old Glory is, but if it's one of them war glorifying things I'll not honour it. I'll honour those that fight and risk their lives when they deserve it but I draw the line at war hornyness and selective memory about combat and war. 9, Yep. 10, I'll discuss politics with anyone I please who wants to. Including military personell. 11 is ok, 12 also. 13 too. 14 is ok if you remove the deity worshipping bit and instead praise those who actually do the job.
And I sort of think this wasn't written by a vet but someone used that signature to give more credence to the message. it does the opposite on anyone with a slight hint of intelligence. Prove it, or don't use it. I think that was one of the points, actually.
And yeah, kick their arse was in jest. So were my comments.
Too many here, so I thought I'd add a little bile.
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This veteran supports your right to be an bellybutton during the National Anthem.
This veteran supports your right to burn a flag in protest.
This veteran better start getting your highest respect. :D
This veteran thinks that some uniform items look okay mixed with civilian attire. This veteran thinks that if you cannot wear the uniform proudly, you should get out of the service.
This veteran thought Rosanne Barr's singing was funny, but not nearly as entertaining as the aftermath.
This veteran thinks Jane Fonda was wrong. This veteran also thinks that a lot of people do very stupid things when they are young. Get over it.
This veteran never liked the term, "squid." No, it is not a term of endearment. We are American Fighting Men. What we call ourselves or each other is between us. If you are a civilian, please don't consider it okay to use these terms.
This veteran thinks Oliver North should be in jail.
There, I said it. :D
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I think the guy who wrote that needs his bellybutton kicked. :D
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This veteran supports your right to be an bellybutton during the National Anthem.
This veteran supports your right to burn a flag in protest.
This veteran better start getting your highest respect. :D
This veteran thinks that some uniform items look okay mixed with civilian attire. This veteran thinks that if you cannot wear the uniform proudly, you should get out of the service.
This veteran thought Rosanne Barr's singing was funny, but not nearly as entertaining as the aftermath.
This veteran thinks Jane Fonda was wrong. This veteran also thinks that a lot of people do very stupid things when they are young. Get over it.
This veteran never liked the term, "squid." No, it is not a term of endearment. We are American Fighting Men. What we call ourselves or each other is between us. If you are a civilian, please don't consider it okay to use these terms.
This veteran thinks Oliver North should be in jail.
There, I said it. :D
More proof of the "De-sensitivity" of the USA. Leads to more violence, and less people who care.
The "Me, Me Me, I got mine, to hell with you" generation.
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right on Santa
vets fight for peace.. they don't go around kicking people's asses.
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What rip, protecting and using your constitutional rights leads to more violence?
If you locked every American up and just allowed them to go to work and occasionally produce children and had über Europeans to do the controlling, there'd be less violence.
But you don't want that eh?
Just the price of freedom, beyond eternal vigilance.
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sandman
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Originally posted by MajTom
5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir," stand back... the Marine will kick their ass.
Just curious as to why it's considered offensive to call someone "sir".
(assuming they aren't female).
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WTG Sandman. Veterans swear allegiance to the Constitution of the United States, which promotes democracy by respecting the rights of individuals to disagree with what their government is doing and even the consensus of the majority.
How many flags could you burn in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia if you happened to disagree with the majority of your fellow citizens and the current government? I'd rather live in a country where idiots are tolerated from time to time (IMO most flag burner types lack perspective and are in it for the social aspects), than live in a county where patriots cannot stand up for what they believe is right and have their voices heard without the fear of some Brown Shirt beating them down. But them I'm part of that me, me, me generation that actually served in the military.
Charon
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
More proof of the "De-sensitivity" of the USA. Leads to more violence, and less people who care.
The "Me, Me Me, I got mine, to hell with you" generation.
wow rip, that really made you look kinda stupid.
did you put any thought into it? or did it just kinda fall out?
F.
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Funny you guys all took this so seriously...it was humor.
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Originally posted by myelo
Just curious as to why it's considered offensive to call someone "sir".
(assuming they aren't female).
its a joke. ya know, "don't call me sir, i work for a living."
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You're dammed right Rip, I do take this seriously. Serious as a heart attack.
The blood of our country's sons and daughters, fathers and mothers may very well be spilled soon. Furthermore, this will be done, rightly or wrongly, in our names as American citizens. People who disagree have every right, in fact they have an obligation, to make their voices heard just as those who agree with the actions. At the end of the day, the buck stops here.
Charon
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Well... it's an odd thing. I know plenty of vets that refuse to call anyone "sir" after they've left service. Me, I went the other route and I call everyone sir or ma'am regardless of rank or station.
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Aaah... thank god. The world doesn't appear to be so mad afterall.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This veteran supports your right to be an bellybutton during the National Anthem.
This veteran supports your right to burn a flag in protest.
This veteran better start getting your highest respect. :D
This veteran thinks that some uniform items look okay mixed with civilian attire. This veteran thinks that if you cannot wear the uniform proudly, you should get out of the service.
This veteran thought Rosanne Barr's singing was funny, but not nearly as entertaining as the aftermath.
This veteran thinks Jane Fonda was wrong. This veteran also thinks that a lot of people do very stupid things when they are young. Get over it.
This veteran never liked the term, "squid." No, it is not a term of endearment. We are American Fighting Men. What we call ourselves or each other is between us. If you are a civilian, please don't consider it okay to use these terms.
This veteran thinks Oliver North should be in jail.
There, I said it. :D
And this veteran agrees totally.
Hey rip, wanna get into it again ? :)
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Disrespect that goes around, comes around FD, keep that in mind. Treat others as you want to be treated. (I've got the image of that Rosanne Barr thing in my head while posting this)
FD, I don't want to own you again, your too easy. ;)
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1. Oliver North is a liar and a psychopath and far from a hero. The short version: You cannot give terrorists weapons for hostages. It creates a cycle you don't want:
Ahmed: "Achmed, we are out of explosives."
Achmed: "Time to take some more hostages, and release them for arms."
Real deal intelligence operatives had known this forever at the time of 'Iran-Contra'. Oilver North basically brokered a deal with terrorists to swap hostages for weapons, so he could go to his bosses and say "See? I'm your James Bond!".
When I was younger I thought he was a hero. Then I learned some things about him later after I was in the military - he's far from it. The whole 'refusing to answer as it might jeapordize operatives in the field' while wearing his uniform - it still makes me sick to think about.
However, having said all this, the media basically gave the communists a 'pass' on this whole conflict - the communist backed rebels manipulated the U.S. media brilliantly during the whole contra affair. Get operatives to form a 'peace group' on 10 or 20 campuses in the U.S., then have the members of this 'peace group' travel down south to view the scene of 'U.S. backed attrocities' that never happened, and take the evidence to members of the U.S. congress who were in favor of anything that would hurt the current administration - brilliant work actually. But it was work commited vs. my Nation so I'm a little annoyed. :)
That's a time and a place that is a big unknown for most - you guys should do some internet research on the entire conflict. You'd be amazed. There are guys who fought in that conflict that should have been given the Medal of Honor...but it wasn't a 'popular war' so they of course got no official recognition.
Jane Fonda is evil. If it was only being a dumb chick going to North Vietnam to piss off Daddy, I could understand.
She never apologized.
You guys fail to recall where she went U.S.-wide on the media after returning home and blatantly lied - stating that all stories of torture and mistreatment of our POWs were lies fabricated by the U.S. Government. This did real and serious damage to the campaign to get our guys recognized by the IRC as valid POWs. This statement directly cost the lives of POWs who died from harsh treatment before better conditions were demanded of North Vietnam via the international community. I believe one of her lines was "They're a bunch of football jocks who are whining because they got beat by the little people. They're not being tortured at all".
http://www.henrymarkholzer.com/hanoijane.net/
She's a U.S. hater. She named her Son after a decorated Viet Cong sapper. I'm not kidding. :)
I agree with Rip1 that it's humor. Besides, even if it wasn't...kick someone's butt at a hockey game for talking during the National Anthem? Before 9/11, in my experience if the talker saw you doing the right thing they'd usually remember what the right thing was and start doing it. Besides, a fight could spill my beer. :)
Mike/wulfie
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I'll tell you this....I might not always agree with Sandman, FD, Weazle, but I respect them a helluva lot more for serving in our armed forces than anyone who thinks the epitome of being patriotic is waving the flag.
I didn't serve, but I respect those who did, because they helped to protect and insure my rights to disagree with them.
Cobra
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Originally posted by MajTom
A little something my Dad sent me this morning
5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir," stand
back... the Marine will kick their ass.
VN Vet.
Good post, I have the utmost respect for the Flag and Vets.
I didnt understand #5 though, please elaborate...
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Originally posted by StSanta
What utter BS.
Talking during the national anthem is protected by the constitution - one that military personnel have sworn to preserve.
Same with burning of the flag. Also should be noted that physically assaulting someone is a criminal offence.
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That will get your bellybutton kicked on any corner in Georgia.
If ya dont believe me come and see.
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Well, rip... i'm not the one who went into hiding for a week afterwards :)
I have no idea who rossane barr is, so i couldn't care less.
As for treat others like you want to be treated, well, i'm more on the freedom side of things. You are welcome to do whatever consitution allows you to do, whether i like it, or not.
It works better that way.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
That will get your bellybutton kicked on any corner in Georgia.
If ya dont believe me come and see.
He was talking about the flag of the Unites States of America....not the flag of the confereracy. < smile >
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Originally posted by vorticon
lol...all you have to do to get your arse kicked is try to invade russia (only been successfully invaded ONCE over 1000 years ago
mongol invasion was less than 900 years ago...Timur the Lame did a good job too & that was even more recently...many other well done russian conquests previous to mongols - 1st millenium viking Rurik of Jutland's decendents r0°oled russia (when chengiz khan's decendent's weren't) until 1917. only pansy francophile napolean or nitwit hitler had any trouble
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That will get your bellybutton kicked on any corner in Georgia.
If ya dont believe me come and see.
Heh, I've been to Georgia. Nice place, even though people speak in a sort of funny accent.
And they'd have to shoot me before they could kick my arse then, because I'd be an armed citizen exercising my rights. If they decide to try to violate them, well what's more American (in ideal at least) than fighting to the death defending freedom, liberty and happiness?
BTW, nice hidden threat. Not very subtle, but I still appreciate the effort. Of course, that's what I get for pissing on yer turf, eh? :)
Your post brings forth my point however. Here, people would shake their heads and that individual would be frozen out completely. It'd be allowed. But perhaps because there's more of a collective here, there's no reason to resort to caveman methoods that are counterproductive when other more efficent methods are available.
And whgates - Jutland still kicks arse :D
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X2lee,
To answer your question about #5...
In the US military there are Non Coms ( Non Commisioned Officers) and Comissioned Officers.
A Non-Com (Seargeant) has to do all the work the Commisioned officer orders him to do. It is a popular belief the Commisioned officer doesn't do much work hence the reason why the Non-Com will say "I work for a living". To call him (the Non-Com) "sir" is to imply he is lazy :)
P.S. Cool post btw.
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Thanks. Seems kind of complicated though. Where I grew up you called anyone significantly older than you "Sir" or "Mam". It didn't seem to be a problem with any of the military folks in my family. But then if they would have started in on any com/non-com stuff, my grandmother would have kicked their ass.
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On an humoristic level, it's cute.:)
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And it's the English that are the warmongers, the British just do the fighting for em.
Thats cause we kicked THERE ass:p
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With the help of the French :D
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Hehehe that too :)
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Originally posted by fd ski
Well, rip... i'm not the one who went into hiding for a week afterwards :)
Refresh my memory, I don't even recall what we were discussing to be honest...oh, and I have 2.5 months off a year...so maybe I was on vacation? (shrugs)
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Originally posted by StSanta
That will get your bellybutton kicked on any corner in Georgia.
If ya dont believe me come and see.
Heh, I've been to Georgia. Nice place, even though people speak in
:D
Heheh I love these boards, you can flame someone and still smile and joke about it
I love you guys!
you cant have my bud lite tho.