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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Terror on January 16, 2003, 01:19:31 PM
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This thread will probably get locked too.... but ...
In an off-topic forum, speculation and opinion are now forbidden. I was just posting my opinion and a bit of speculation in a civil and diplomatic manner on a given subject and the thread gets locked. If thats not being a tad over-zealous with the "admin" privledges, I don't know what is. (Except, maybe, banning me.... hehe. Which could occur observing the most recent chain of events.) I guess I am wrong to think that a diplomatic post would get better treatment than a rude, nasty, and obnoxious (sp?) post....
You are right Skuzzy, I do not know what transpired to lead up to the said events, I just posted what it looks like from an end-user point of view. I read through alot of the posts, and only see a user that was making problem reports and suggestions and not getting any response from the developers and over time getting more and more frustrated by that. And then finally getting banned because he was constantly nagging with stronger and stronger language.
I'm not trying to be antagonistic, (...well maybe a little...) but just trying to make the point that a disagreement or difference of opinion with HTC posted here should not be trounced by the moderators. If it's presented in a civil manner, then it should be responded to in a like manner, not just trounced. And when something happens on these boards, you have to expect follow up conversations about it. Locking the threads discussing it will just get people like me re-opening the subjects and more speculation.
Now look what you've done. You've made me write a book in a thread that will probably be locked after 2 posts......
Gee-Whilakers!
Terror
AH player since 11/1999
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I'm guessing that the ice is kinda thin here...
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hmm if i was htc i would wait until AFTER you payed for next month then ban you...purely what i would do... (dont forget to check the link
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Other people's bannings or removals ain't no one's bizness but their own and HTCs.
And threads about people who are no longer here will instantly be locked, if they aren't it would appear to outside users that threads talking about people who can't even read it will be tolerated by HTC. <-- that's bad business mojo.
-SW
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CC Terror.
I reckon a fella ought to just stick with the game and stay outta the soap box.
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in :D
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burn him! er, ban him! :D
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Y'know, Terror, Do us all a favor and drop this line of postings, OK? If you feel the need to continue poking Skuzzy with a stick do it through private e-mail.
Speculation and opinion are now forbidden? Since when? The rules have always been consistent- if you run your mouth after you've been advised to chill you get bounced. Dude, I come up with more offensive material in a week than just about anyone and I have NEVER been told to chill.
Continuing to goad Skuzzy into banning you so you can play the martyr is shallow and, the more you post, the more shallow you look. You need to stop.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Other people's bannings or removals ain't no one's bizness but their own and HTCs.
And threads about people who are no longer here will instantly be locked, if they aren't it would appear to outside users that threads talking about people who can't even read it will be tolerated by HTC. <-- that's bad business mojo.
-SW
So when someone get arrested for saying the President made a bad decision, it's no one's "bizness" but their own and the President's? If someone says, "that's not fair!", gets a gag put in their mouth, thats right, eh? [sarcasm]Boy, thats just how I want the world!![/sarcasm]
It's just the idea that expressing any "unauthorized" or "unpopular" opinion will get a user banned. It just kinda goes against my "grain".
Terror
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This. Is. Not. A. Democracy.
Neither is the USA, though :D
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Im not touching this one with a forty foot corndog.
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Terror, there *are* alternatives for bulletin boards. Email me.
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I hope they do ban you..what a stupid sukky tit topic.
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Here's a better analogy:
If you go into a resturant and see someone get all upity because their food was cooked poorly and really laid into the manager- he would get thrown out.
If you follow suit and question the manager, he'll throw you out.
It's his business and he can run it how he sees fit.
-SW
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Lets all play a game of grabass!
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Only if you supply the peach schnapps Animal!
-SW
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Terror, this is where Skuzzy works. How would we like it if the HTC gang went into YOUR workplace and started claiming the Big Macs were made with horse meat and they saw you picking your nose while working the deep fat fryer? Would you tolorate that or after a time would you ask the assistant manager to make them leave?? ;)
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Here's a better analogy:
If you go into a resturant and see someone get all upity because their food was cooked poorly and really laid into the manager- he would get thrown out.
If you follow suit and question the manager, he'll throw you out.
It's his business and he can run it how he sees fit.
-SW
No usually a good manager will apologize for the poor food service and try and make it up to the customer. Usually by a free meal and future consessions. (ie. gift certificates or free desserts.) It's called Customer Service. A restaurant that throws out a complaining customer will soon come to have no customers.
Dealing with complaints by forcibly removing the complaintant just leads to bad PR and lack of customer confidence. Especially if the complaintant is being civil and not being rude or abusive.
In HTC's case being very verbose and public about why the problems or suggestions were not being handled as the banned user wanted would have probably handled the situation without banning having to be a final solution.
Ya know ... a suggestion ... Why not a "FAQ" that covers many of the repeated problem/suggestion areas, would problably help the frustrations that many of the more vocal complainers have. It would have to have detailed explanations, but could solve some of the excalating issues on the boards.
Terror
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Heh, Airhead, you funny.
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Warned? Steve posted about his frustrations with server lag during reset. While there were at least 3 obscenities in it, it threatened no one nor did it insult anyone... it was a rant, nothing more. Steve didn't get warned, he was immediately banned from the boards, without notice. Skuzzy posted that it was abusive. Bottom line is that while this certainly isn't a democracy, one should be able to post either dissenting or negative remarks without fear of being banished by the hyper-sensitive folk at HTC. Compared to other online boards, including flight sims past and present, this board is pretty darned mild. The difference is, the moderators of the other boards are not milktoast pantywaists.
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If you cannot post without being abusive, then you do not belong on this board.
If you cannot register a complaint without being abusive, you do not belong on this board.
There is no reason, not one, for anyone to be abusive in posting anything on this board. Abusive language serves no purpose. It will never serve a purpose no matter how you rationalize it.