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Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: HeLLcAt on January 16, 2003, 08:11:02 PM
S! Everyone who will read this and provide feedback. I am a veteran pilot, but haven't been flying at all much or anything. I usually fly the F6F (it is my favorite plane), but I have been flying a lot of different ones - mostly American. The real question is I need to work on E retention and learn how to keep my E. With my F6F I get caught up having spits get on me AFTER I dive away. I don't know what I am doing wrong, it might just be some kind of slump. Some days I am an ace and a sharpshooter and others I am just a newbie. If anyone has any basic advice please let me know. Thank you!
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: sax on January 16, 2003, 10:32:05 PM
You using a lot of rudder with your turns? Biggest E killer I can think of.

Most times I get so caught up in the fight that when I dive out still have my foot applying rudder without realizing it.

cyas up
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: SpinDoc1 on January 16, 2003, 10:36:18 PM
HellCat,

I've been seeing the same thing in myself lately! Most of my encounters happen where I see someone coming from my low front, so I somehow end up going toward them, in an attempt to keep them from getting right on my six. However, they reverse and end up on my six as I'm diving away. I haven't watched enough of my videos to see what I'm doing wrong yet, so I can't offer too much advice, but you're not alone!
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: Ecliptik on January 17, 2003, 02:27:31 AM
Maybe you're just running into Lazarus too often. :)
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: WldThing on January 17, 2003, 08:12:42 AM
Well Hellcat i have been caught in those situations and i believe i do have an answer.

Ok ive had spits stuck on my 6 after i tryed some E moves so what i did was, extend for about 2k turn slowly back towards the spit, dont be so hard on the stick.

When ure back nose to nose with the spit dive under him to avoid the possible HO and go for a double immelman.  This sort of thing has worked for me before so it might work for you.

Good Luck!
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: BlckMgk on January 17, 2003, 08:46:36 AM
This has happened to me but only after I've been in a fight. Usually happens because I'm not aware. Getting a good SA (Situational Awareness) is key in surviving. Usually if I'm down low tied in a fight and I notice a spit, la7, or 109 I know I have a short time to either finish off the boggie, or if I can slip away to grab alt I will do so. Hate to get caught down low in planes that need some alt to function, because those three planes give me the most problems, Nik I don't worry about till hes 3k (they're just slow), the 109 less than the other two, but those g10's can widdle you're E down because they climb so damn well.


-BlckMgk
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: SLO on January 17, 2003, 10:58:57 AM
keep this in mind......F6F out dives everything except the F4U

at 400 spits lock up......not f6f

1 trick.....dive but throttle off...spiral....create overshoot.
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: WldThing on January 17, 2003, 11:34:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SLO
keep this in mind......F6F out dives everything except the F4U

at 400 spits lock up......not f6f

1 trick.....dive but throttle off...spiral....create overshoot.


It all matters on the pilot SLO, you cant do that to everyone in the MA.  Smart pilot will cut throttle and wait for his shot.  Sometimes one snapshot from a spit will kill.
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: akak on January 17, 2003, 02:08:39 PM
Energy Management is as vital as knowing Situational Awarness.  Here are a couple of links that help out with learning how to manage your energy state.

Sensei's Energy Management (http://www.hispanicvista.com/assets/energy.pdf)

 BulletHead's Energy Management Page (http://people.delphiforums.com/jtweller/training/emgmt.htm)

While both aren't written for Aces High, they deal in concepts that aren't game specific.  The only game specific portion is BulletHead's comments about stick scaling, the rest is just as valid in AH as it was in AW.

Hope this helps.

(http://www.hispanicvista.com/assets/479th_shield.jpg)
Ack-Ack
479th FG - Riddle's Raiders
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: Bluedog on January 17, 2003, 08:35:32 PM
You asked for 'simple tricks', so here's my two cents worth.
When you are diving away, try and allways do so at 0 G for greatest possible rate of accelleration.
Obvious , but often ignored.

Blue
Title: Help From Anyone Please...
Post by: DamnedRen on January 20, 2003, 09:59:18 AM
Bluedog is correct. A 0G dive removes the 1G weight of the aircraft from the equation asnd lets the plane accelerate quickly. To maintain the 0G dive you gotta continually apply forward pressure to the stick so watch your G meter. Watch your speed too as it will get fas`t pretty quickly!

This might help also...
If your aircraft approaches a stall for whatever reason the correct stick response is to relieve the pressure you have on the stick. The term is called "unload". In a dogfight folks have a tendency to tense up a little and end up holding some pressure on the stick. Any pressure you have on the stick adds drag. If you unload, just like letting lose the reigns of a horse, the plane will accelerate.

Also, if you have a trim wheel on your stick (my CH F16 Fighterstick has x and y axis trim wheels)
you can trim just a hair down on the pitch axis. Then if you unload the slight "nose low" will help you maintain a high rate of speed.

Lastly, get used to and make sure you exactly wher your nose is in relation to the horizon. A lot of folks have a tendency to fly around nose high.