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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: GPreddy on January 18, 2003, 08:53:08 PM
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HT how about giving bomber pilots a death for every crew member lost that would normally be aboard their bomber? That way a dive bombing lanc formation would lose three times a lancasters crew count when they suicide a cv. It would not be enough to stop them but anyone interested in damage per death would not even try it.
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Cool. As long as I get to hear each of them scream individually as i bring them headlong to their deaths.
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LOL your placing conditions upon this? Ah well it would be nice to know if ht came to a decision on suicide at least.
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That just inflates the numbers but doesn't change anything.
When normally shot down you'd lose those crew members, too. So the relation to someone suiciding stays the same.
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odds are if they (we) are suiciding the CV the could give a rats bellybutton about how many die.
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Originally posted by GPreddy
HT how about giving bomber pilots a death for every crew member lost that would normally be aboard their bomber? That way a dive bombing lanc formation would lose three times a lancasters crew count when they suicide a cv. It would not be enough to stop them but anyone interested in damage per death would not even try it.
Just a way to pad Voss's score.
Aint yer score padded enuff already? :rolleyes:
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One thing they did in Warbirds a while back, I seem to recall, was coding maneuvre limitations. So, if someone tried to use a B17 as a fighter, the otto gunners wouldn't fire if the gyrations of the plane were too severe. Implementing something like that would be good in this case; if you start pulling maneuvers a Lanc was never designed to pull, you find yourself suddently incapable of dropping your bombs, and you simply become a large and colorful stain on the landscape below. Or your bombs drop but they drop as dead ordnance. Elaborate point penalties aren't going to work, only disabling the ability to have the suicide produce any virtual world effects at all.
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Well how bout just an angle switch on non dive bombers that would prohbit drops beyond a certain dive angle say 20 degrees?
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This was discussed before and Hitech himself asked for input, the general consensus was to make a limit at what angle bombers could release bombs. Making a death for every crew member only penalises bombers further and quite frankly things are bad enough right now.
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Not a Bad idea. I also think the CV group when Hit should get some damage. Like if it gets hit with 2 1k bombs it should lose some AA Guns and so on. This Would even out the Divebombing Buffs VS the CV taking Damage
Crims
479th Raiders:p
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I love it! Please?
I fly my level bombers into the dar coverage of the CV and risk whatever the crew is say 12 to 18 lives.
then
For balance shall we say :D if I my bombs kill GPreddy's CV before his gun position kills me, drum roll please... I get credit for killing the CVs complement of 1500 to 2500. :D :cool:
btw, that was great shooting.
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X2Lee once and for all time explain to everyone in the forum precisely how someone can pad their score. Explain how my killing buffs pads my score. I dont want credit for killing more then one buff. What I want is the guys that fly a buff into cv ack and then dive bomb the fleet to receive a death for every crewmember they get killed. You seem to think that playing aces high is gaming the game. Thats idiotic. Gaming the game is a nice twist on words but it means nothing. You either play the game or you play part of the game. You are a part timer. If you dont involve yourself in half of the game even then you are not in the game. You think everyone should follow your example and only fly fighters? Thats nonsense. This game was designed around a different way of thinking then you are stating. I dont care what your ideals are or what your personal goals in the game are. I am here to play aces high. You seem to be on a personal vendetta against my game style and why? Because you think you know who I am and you dont like that I win? That sort of attitude will not allow you to overcome my performance and if thats not what you really want to do then stop whining about things you cant change. If we dont agree on game style thats fine. Continuously attacking me and the way I play is very foolish especially when what you are really attacking is the basis of the game. Move on.
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Originally posted by GPreddy
You are a part timer.
LOL a full time AH player that only get's paid at a maximum of $100 per month. With that being said you make approx $3.15 a day, with over 140 hours put into the game per month. Looks like you need to find a new career.
:rolleyes:
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If you really think thats the meaning I intended then you are most likely making even less then that.:p
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Originally posted by GPreddy
X2Lee once and for all time explain to everyone in the forum precisely how someone can pad their score. Explain how my killing buffs pads my score.
you always hide yer butt in the ack, now u want extra kills for
the buffs. you seem to think you are on a dogfight level with
fester and you always posting lil screenshots to make folks think you the toejame.
I dont have to explain how to game the game to you.
I have no vendetta agaisnt you. i just dont like you
cause yer a braggart and a ack weenie.
Lump it.
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Read what I said again X2Lee. Hide in the ack? Now which is it I get accused of vulching to pad my score and now hiding in ack to stay alive. It cant be both ways. You are clueless as to how I go about things. Now tell me when was it I bragged?
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Why not just have personal spawn limits.
So sure, an idiot could suicide a bomber to his hearts content - until he hit his personal spawn limit and then he wouldn't be able to do it anymore until his spawn limit "regenerated" or something like that.
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Thats a good suggestion but I dont see it happening. You have to allow people to defend their fields.
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Both angle limitations and maneuver limitations sounds like a good thing to implement.
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Yes and they wont really solve anything anyway. The first thing that happens when a fleet starts an attack is someone comes from another sector and suicides the cruiser. With the big guns down the muscle behind the attack is defeated and then they start in on suicidal cv attacks. If the cap can hold off the attackers through the first few attempts then you may see a higher buff come in and sometimes they try to dive bomb. I think the bigger problem is the suiciders but I dont think theres a way to discourage it.
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Thats right! Make sure you spray all the way down! I think this rook got a little too low.
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YAWN ,, WHINER !!
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Originally posted by GPreddy
I think the bigger problem is the suiciders but I dont think theres a way to discourage it.
Didn't you just put up a thread recently that described how you suicided a CV that was being hidden? So what is deal, suicide bombers are a problem if they are doing it in way you disagree with? But then it is ok if it suites your means?
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I always fly alone when going on a suicide mission, don't want the crew on my conscience.
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Originally posted by BigGun
Didn't you just put up a thread recently that described how you suicided a CV that was being hidden? So what is deal, suicide bombers are a problem if they are doing it in way you disagree with? But then it is ok if it suites your means?
You said it BigGun. If you dont know the difference you wont learn it here. Im tired of arguing with guys that cant comprehend the difference. Yes dive bombing with a lanc should be impossible. If you cant figure out why go visit a museum and see for yourself.
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Yes dive bombing with a lanc should be impossible.
Even though you know it's impossible and can't be done, you still do it...nice gamer stuff :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Heinkel
Even though you know it's impossible and can't be done, you still do it...nice gamer stuff :rolleyes:
You have an astounding level of comprehension there hienkle.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GPreddy
Yes dive bombing with a lanc should be impossible.
Not sure who argued it was possible. Certainly not I.
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Originally posted by GPreddy
Now tell me when was it I bragged?
Sheeeesh dood if you dont know that then you are obtuse.
Called me clueless? :D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well how bout just an angle switch on non dive bombers that would prohbit drops beyond a certain dive angle say 20 degrees?
Because it's not that simple, Grunherz. The problem isn't the dive angle alone, but on the geometry of the bomb bay, how the plane is maneuvering, and the design of the bomb shackles. The B-17, which mounted its bombs on more-or-less vertical racks within a very short section of the bomber, needs to have the bombs fall perpendicular to the centerline of the bomber in order to make it out through the doors; the uppermost bombs have to fall more than six feet vertically before they leave the plane:
(http://www.ratol.fi/~tmannine/pics/909_catwalk.jpg)
On the other hand, the Lancaster's bomb bay is a shallow recess running the length of the plane; bombs are slung in a single layer on the underside of the upper surface of the bay, which is only deep enough for the bay doors to close over the bombs:
(http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/photos/detail_lanc_07.jpg)
Clearly, just on bomb-bay geometry, the Lancaster can drop its bombs from much more extreme attitudes than the B-17 can.
The next question depends on the way that the bomb shackles are designed. Obviously they are designed to release when the bomb falls straight away from the shackle, but depending on the design of the shackle, a release from 30° off vertical might not release properly. Virgil R. Marco Sr., 366BS Tail Gunner, 305BG, recounts an incident where his B-17 made a sudden pitch-down to avoid another aircraft that caused all but one of the 500-lb bombs they carried to release from their shackles, leaving two bombs piled up on the bottom of the bomb bay. So it's clear that the bombs were not thatsecurely fastened in the bay, but the actual release angle limits depend severely on the mechanical layout.
Then there's the aircraft's maneuvering. A plane in a dive is experiencing different forces than one pulling out of a dive, and this applies to the bombs in its bomb bay; if a plane is pulling enough positive Gs to make the bomb path out of the bay 'vertical' relative to the bay, then the drop should function normally.
On the whole, I think that a bomber in a dive should be able to release its bombs normally if it's pulling enough positive Gs in pitch-up maneuvering to compensate for the dive angle; this could easily be reduced to a table for each bomber. Also, negative-G maneuvers should have a chance to either release bombs from their shackles or jam them so that they can't be released; this would put additional limits on a buff driver's ability to throw their plane around the sky.
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I wonder why HT lets this guy rank and rave
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Originally posted by paintmaw
I wonder why HT lets this guy rank and rave
For the same reason he lets you stick around. I pay my bill. You think ht should not allow me to rank? That says something about you on several levels paint but congratulations anyway. For once you didnt repeat yourself. Its still a pitiful post and way off topic. Please refrain from repeating this mistake. The topic here is level bombers being used to dive bomb and how best to handle the guys that misuse bombers by dive bombing with them. I want to point out that I have never used a level bomber to dive bomb anything. When I attacked the fleet that knights were hiding from us I attacked from an NOE approach and then proceeded to attack while level. So biggun and hienkle are mistaken in accusing me of doing so. Since that incident happened I have twice made use of the veterans hot line to find out where the hidden fleets are and we got them back with noe attacks. So you are better off using captured cvs because anything else is just a mild nuisance (about like you paint).:D
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The point I was trying to make is that, without more data, simply implementing a game mechanism like "At more than 15° from level, you can't drop your bombs" ignores the variation in the design between different bombers that affects the conditions under which bombs can be released. I strongly oppose the idea of implementing restrictions on what you can do with an aircraft based on what the pilots didn't do as opposed to what they couldn't do with the plane.
We have game limits on which plane you fly, driven by an artificial mechanism intended to keep historically-rare planes rare -- but once you have the plane, there are no controls on what you do with it. If you're going to impose restrictions on how people use the planes based on what the real-world pilots did or didn't do, then you should enforce strict separation of the plane nationalities and who you can engage -- after all, FW-190s didn't fly escort for Il-2s being attacked by P-51s...
Implementing restrictions like that on aircraft is suitable for the Mission Theater, where the intent is to create a simulation of air combat during WWII, but as people have pointed out again and again, AH in the main arena is a game; the flight and damage models may be simulations of reality, but the MA itself is gamey as all hell.
If the bomb shackles on a Lancaster won't release properly if the G force on the bombs isn't within, say, 30° of perpendicular to the bomb bay, then that's a genuine mechanical limitation on how you can be maneuvering the plane when you try to drop. Changing the game so that you can't drop bombs from a Lancaster if it's more than 15° from level flight because you don't want dive-bombing Lancasters is as much an "I don't like the way you want to play" whine as Lasz's squeaking about anything that lets bombers interfere with his furballing.
Whatever mechanism gets implemented should be able to pass a realism test based on what the plane could do, not on how people used it. The best example of the difference between ability and use that I can think of is Tex Johnston's barrel-rolling the Boeing Dash-80 prototype (predecessor to the 707) -- the airlines that used the 707 didn't barrel-roll the plane, but it could perform a barrel-roll.
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Originally posted by Easyscor
I love it! Please?
I fly my level bombers into the dar coverage of the CV and risk whatever the crew is say 12 to 18 lives.
then
For balance shall we say :D if I my bombs kill GPreddy's CV before his gun position kills me, drum roll please... I get credit for killing the CVs complement of 1500 to 2500. :D :cool:
Man I gotta agree w/ Easyscor. Lets take it another step farther...
If I take out cities or towns, can I get credit for civilians killed? WOW, they could display that on my score page. It would give all of us all another top 15 to shoot for: "top Butchers of tour X"
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Originally posted by Preon1
"top Butchers of tour X"
LOL
We'll need subcategories women/children/cats, extra points for cats ;)
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GPretty..
I just raised the discussion one level. I don't like dive bombing buffs that go in & suicide. Nor do I like suicide buffs that just do some low level attack on a CV.
To me the whole Suicide thing is the issue. You state dive bombing suicide buffs are dweeby, I agree. But I would also say level Buff suicide flying is just as dweeby.
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Originally posted by BigGun
GPretty..
I just raised the discussion one level. I don't like dive bombing buffs that go in & suicide. Nor do I like suicide buffs that just do some low level attack on a CV.
To me the whole Suicide thing is the issue. You state dive bombing suicide buffs are dweeby, I agree. But I would also say level Buff suicide flying is just as dweeby.
Well I disagree because if you are stooping to hiding a cv behind the full extent of your country then all bets are off. You wont see me doing this. One thing that has really come to light recently is this hiding issue. Even for bishops it has become standard practice to turn the cv and hide it. I have seen it stop us from succeeding in an early reset several times. Why hide an asset that can be used to accomplish your goals? Even when we bishops had knights pushed two fields beyond their port there were guys taking the cv and turning it to the rear. The guys that do this dont understand what they are missing out on. The fleet battles are the best fun in the game. This is one aspect of play that ht really scored with. Everytime we bishops have a good cv fight I say something to that effect and the consensus is in agreement. So everytime you hide the fleet you are detracting from my fun and the fun of several of my countrymen. It has gotten so popular that all I have to do is secure information as to the fleets location and I know the fleet will be home soon. There are plenty of volunteers to go and get it.
I would like to see ht find a way to code a method for checking the fleets inactivity and have it return to home port if it is not used. That really seems to be the best solution.
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I agree 100% on hiding fleet issue. I think if port is captured, fleet should return to port owner after a period...or some other way to eliminate fleet hiding.
You talk as if I am hiding the fleet, never have, never will. I will gladly tell other countries where hidden fleet is, and would steer into action if have the ability.
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Then you have to understand the frustration of flying across the full extent of the map and attacking a fleet that is forewarned of our approach. Then there is also the probability that every perk toting dweeb in the area will up 163s to stop you since you are so close to their HQ or must pass near there. Like I said in the other "only reason to suicide" thread this is one time that it is okay because otherwise it is too risky for too many people and there is almost no chance of success.
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Understand the frustration & also your point.
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whaaa
i really dont see more then 1 a month (divebom)Suicide Buffs...maybe not even that...
I have divebomded in 17's before...(Desperate bunch of Gpreddys divn on me:)) ANd if u hit ur target..CONGRADULATIONS!!! Cause its a pain in the asss to get all ur buffs to folow in an efficient way...
So im thinkning...dam voss err preddy...dont you have somthing bettr to cry about??? Ok use a diff word then crying..but whatever
And one more thing....
So you think some guy who is dive boming his Buffs cares about his Kill Death Ratio!!! LMFAO **edited down..i didnt want any trouble..hehhhehe
come on now..i know..maybe you need to restate that one huh?..lololo
Lotsa Love
BiGB
xoxo
"Happliy Sinking your CV's in LEVEL Fligth At 10K" any day brotha
Do this in your Star Wars Voice........"DeathStar Aproaching"...
Ill call Preddys home "Alderon"
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BGBMaw you need a nap. This response is typical of your behaviour in the main arena. I thought HT made it clear this would not be tolerated. Do you have a reading disablility?
Yes I believe it would stop some but not all suicide attacks. Certainly the MAW are guilty of suicide and I have watched it happen. You have enough members in your four (4?) squads that this is an effective tactic. It is weak and lacks the requirement of time (or skill) and I think that is precisely why you do it. Its like easy mode flying only in this case its easy mode field capture so you can hide the fleet. I really hope ht comes up with a solution so we can move on once the larger maps get here. The lemming mode and milkrun base captures are old.
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What do you consider alt f4'ing when you get bounced preddy?
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Originally posted by Heinkel
What do you consider alt f4'ing when you get bounced preddy?
Lame and dweebish Hienkle. I get bounced all the time do I alt-f4? No. Do I consider your troll an insult? Yes. You should really control your mental aberrations more effectively.
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heheh ..what response do you want?
Yes you are absoulty correct...
I agree with all of it...
But..what is this..?? Thought HT said thsi would not be tolerated??? What is tolerated??
and its 5 squads:)
AND WE never go into missions thinking SUICIDE!!!! maybe once...when you guys ram a CV on our Beach and start poring out like rats ....
And so I lack the Time and Skill??? FU
I have done more level boming from 10K and abover then you...(I havent looked at ur stats)..Just a guess cause I just moved to a new house and been unpacking while boming...
So thats not true...And Skill??>. Yes maybe compared to the "All Mighty skeels of yours" yes..but to the average Pilot in AH...i know i will hold my own...so..you take a nap.....a dirt nap:D
oh...well reading your posts im not sure..Are you saying all the MAW are unskilled and have no time or just me?? Either way you are WRONG.....
I lovingly await your Reply...
and while your at it..Show me the stats(i dont think there are any) of this "dive boming lanc " situation that is bugging you enuff to post ...
P.S. what the hell else can u do in a lanc...those things suk..they have crappy defense..Id dive to if i ever flew them..lolo
( **edited text--actually added..I liek Lancs..they carry a tremendous bom load and i think are bettr looking then other 4 eng heavies..but the defense they have is suicidal most of the time)**..this is a true milkrunners ride..Gee i guess we know why they only flew them on nights with no moons:)
Love BiGB
xoxo
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Originally posted by GPreddy
Certainly the MAW are guilty of suicide and I have watched it happen. You have enough members in your four (4?) squads that this is an effective tactic. It is weak and lacks the requirement of time (or skill) and I think that is precisely why you do it. Its like easy mode flying only in this case its easy mode field capture so you can hide the fleet.
Now Preddy, Voss or Pretty Boy...err whatever...I have to take issue with this. What happened to no throwing out insults? Are you just spewing crap off the keyboard again without thinking?
You have know Idea even what you are talking about. I have never flown on a suicide mission with the MAW. It isn't something we do or use as an effective tactic. On squad night when we fly together as MAW, can't think of any time we have flown suicide or dive bombing buffs.
And what is that about MAW hiding the fleet??? I have never seen it happen, and doubt you have either. Lets see some proof of your mindless accusations prettyboy.
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See all it takes is one small accusation and you guys fly off the handle. Either learn to handle things with more grace or just dont respond. BGB your use of FU is completely inappropriate however it is indicative of how your fellow squaddies act online. You make an example of yourself even here. Your squad is the worst. I dont mean they lack skill I mean they respons with insult with regularity. Not the entire squad but four of its most outspoken members and that speaks volumns for the rest.
From now on I am boycotting any response to MAW of any handle until you get a grip on yourselves and I urge everyone to do likewise. Of course I expect hienkle and a few others to think that ridiculous but they always respond with about the same level of maturity you demonstrate.
Squelch on.
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Good..end of discussion then.
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shweet..
I cry no tears
anyways..seems liek alot of guys in here take this GAME to serious...Im just screwn around..dam man....valium??
when i say diddly you..i say it with a smile....:p
When im on freeway..some jerkoff honks I say diddly You ..with a smile of course....
And dont worry..I ride with a .45
so you cant back up your statements??
Ok i did look at your stats....just boming,,,,Defntly a Nancy Martin..Clover or Crystal......
Those are some various milk-Dairy producers...
ie (Milk runner)..its amazing you didnt get 1 kill in your bomers..maybe its a bug huh? 18 hours and not one kill.....hmm i hear soem milkshakes being blended...but Hey..whos got the $100 bucks right...im just a poor bastard with not enuff timeto compete with you...
Salute
Love BiGB
xoxo
Yes we do have some strong personalities in our squad....ahhh diversity...
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BigB...your words are falling on deaf ears. PrettyBoy crawled by under that rock...err squelched on.
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I am not defending voss but bgb your house is 100% glass. So much so its comical.
Voss flies for score btw, bombers arent interceptors made to shoot down fighters. The way Voss flies them is correct. You get nothing for shooting down enemy fighters in bomber.
Anyone can go to the the Screenshot forum and look where one of your squaddies posted an image of 30 of your guys ganging 1 guy who happens to spawn.
What are gonna do know shoot me with your .45?
:rolleyes:
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Just want to make sure you referring to bgb instead of bg....he is the one with the .45 & buff guy.
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oop meant bgb will edit it.............
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lol BiG Guns...
when we golfing next..urb' s waitn for a spanking....and lord knows hes a gambling man......
SAlute
BiGB
xoxo
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ya..so if flying a buff correct means never seeing a nme ftr..Thats what they call milk runs.... Boming undefended territory
Im not saying you should have 100 kills..gut being ranked #1 in bombing with 18+ hours...and never shot a single ftr down(or atleast got credit)..I would say I hear milkshakes being made...
No disrepect at all to that one guy who started this post
and Those screenshots are classic...
and its too bad you cant read and understand...
our squad the (5 of them)..all have there own duty...so there was a fifth of the squad for the CAP part....but anyways,,,the rest were base prep..goon scort-near base cap...blah blah
waaaaaaaaaaaa
P,s. and no i wont shoot you unless you threatn my well being...but if it makes you sound bettr..have at it..YEs i will kill you then..lolololo
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well, if there was ever a case to Ban someone its gotta be BGBMaw Hitech!
Come on guys be true to your stated word and ban this idiot.
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whats so bad?
this is got to be funny
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OK then HT , Ban me too then , you let Voss aka Gpreddy ( who has been banned once already) spew this crap on the BBS , and do nothing ? He is bad mouthing a squad like the MAW with several paying members that don't even post crap in here . If you squeak at Hangtime for joking about hating anti-semitism and let this guy rant and rave about your product , where are the boundries so we know what not to cross???
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Originally posted by paintmaw
I wonder why HT lets this guy rank and rave
hey paintmaw, Gpreddy said nothing wrong here. What's your problem?
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I never ever thought I'd defend a person like Voss, but I must.
Yes, he only shows up when it's safe to vulch. He likely hides in ack, though I've never seen this since I avoid enemy ack. He runs up hundreds of kills by camping and has his servants supply and protect him. He's found ways to accumulate kills never intended to be part of the game. He only engages when it's safe, using superior force or cherry picking. He milkruns and likely pads his score by others allowing him to kill them.
But he flies for points, and the way he flies is designed to acheive that goal. It's called flying smart. Albeit IMO not much fun, it seems to float his boat... likely an ego issue. Others don't have to like it, but it's his option.
I have a lousy score, am a lousy player, but I like the intensity of never ending furballs, upping at a vulched base, and defending bases agaiinst the hoardes. But if I were capable of achieving a high score, perhaps I'd do as Voss does... donno. I don't fly smart because it would be a complete bore, but that's MY option.
No doubt Voss is a sleezy, unethical louse, but there isn't anything wrong with what he is saying here.
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Grizzly..i agree with you .....
Dam i kept upn at vulched base yesterday..finally got away from there lousy vulchers..heheh and got there goon...Ahhhh Saved another base for the mother land....
But dam..I think i ruined my K/D ratio..lololo lets see 1 kill for 8 deaths...lolo
owell..its fun..
And your not defending voss.....He wants people to stop suicidal Diveboming in LAncs??? Ya this is a huge problem..:rolleyes: .I dont think I have ever seen lancasters dive on a CV ...ok..maybe once..in 6 months..and was it unsuccesful..I dont think so....BUT..I guess when you average 4 hours a day playing you see alot....
I juts fail to see why he wants HT to work on this "problem" That he seems is screwing the game up...For who..I dont know..IS he feeling threatned by someones Kill/death ratio...I find that hard to beleve
114 hours in 20 days....woooooo He needs that $100..:D
Salute:)
BiGB
xoxo
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preddy -
You came off a little standoff-ish - because there were replies to this post concerning an alternative method to dealing with this issue -
The new missions arena (which I will definitely do) may be a deterrent to those dweebs that up and up and dive and dive for no other apparent reason than that they havent a clue how to do anything else. They'll have to earn the right to suicide, and after 1 shot, they'll have to start all over
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Originally posted by GPreddy
HT how about giving bomber pilots a death for every crew member lost that would normally be aboard their bomber? That way a dive bombing lanc formation would lose three times a lancasters crew count when they suicide a cv. It would not be enough to stop them but anyone interested in damage per death would not even try it.
What makes you think that anybody interested in that stat would even consider suicide boming a CV ?
I can't think of any ... so your solution becomes moot.
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BlkShp I didnt respond to those suggestions in a negative fashion. The johnny come latelys are here to jack the thread insult and accuse. I want to see one shred of evidence that these guys have because I have at least nine hundred films and in a great deal of them you can see NateMAW Paint BGBMAW or 40DogMAW berating other players cussing insulting and carrying on like lunatics. Yet they have got five squadrons of subscribers so I suppose they own the radio buffer.:rolleyes:
Perhaps your right though and the new version will make things right.
Grizzly your accusations are unfounded and your resorting to insult indicates you lack the ability to make a level headed response. Check my score again. You wouldnt have time to get bored IF you could get kills at the same rate I do. If you had any proof that I was using a friend to PAD MY SCORE then you would have posted it. Superior force? Which is it I lack skill or Im a one man superior force? I usually fly ALONE so your wrong here too. And you have responded off topic.
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*sigh*
We're do we start.
First off, as the XO of VMA-223, I would never allow suicide bombing. I've known BGB for a while, and as the CO of the group, I know he does not tolerate this as well. Granted, this is on squad nights. we don't own members of our squad, so they are free to do as they wish on none squad night, however we do remind them they wear the MAW name, and should conduct themselves accordingly.
As to the issue of the MAW being, and I am paraphrasing here, a bunch of gangbanging, no skill horde, I take great issue with this statement.
Not once in my 3 years with the MAW have I ever seen a mission planned where the concept of suicide is even mentioned.
We fly to capture fields, help our country, and survive. Anyone who knows this squad knows we are not skill less suicide lemmings.
Now GPreddy is boycotting MAW threads. That's nice. Good for you. But I know you're reading this with great interest, so here's a thought for you. Perhaps if you were a bit more open minded to compromising ideas, and a little less harsh in your BBS messages I would not hold you in such contempt. However, reading your generalized, uniformed, and frankly insulting posts leave me no alternative but to hold you in the lowest regard possible.
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Originally posted by GPreddy
I have at least nine hundred films and in a great deal of them you can see NateMAW Paint BGBMAW or 40DogMAW berating other players cussing insulting and carrying on like lunatics. Yet they have got five squadrons of subscribers so I suppose they
I would love to see some of these screenshots of these incidents. And I would prefer to see them unedited so they cannot be taken out of context.
Everyone gets hot, but I find it hard to believe our squad engages in regular beratings of other players.
I spend all my online time flying with the MAW, and if one of our members lost his temper, we would hear it on VOX first. I can say without hesitation, the pilots mentioned above have never lost their temper on VOX. I simply find it difficult to believe.