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Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Revvin on January 19, 2003, 12:58:10 PM
I've enjoyed the Total War (http://www.totalwar.com) series a lot since buying Shogun:Total War Warlords edition quite some time ago and the next game in the series (apart from the add-on pack for Medieval:Total War) looks superb. They're using 3D models for the troops this time round which should enhance the overall immersion of the game even further. I held off buying the others in the series as I was'nt sure I'd like the squad level control as opposed to individual troops but they are a lot of fun. Take a look at these screenshots here (http://www.3dgamers.com/screenshots/games/rome/)
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Revvin on January 19, 2003, 12:59:51 PM
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: sling322 on January 19, 2003, 02:14:23 PM
What was the add-on pack for Medieval: Total War?

I have been playing this one a lot lately, but havent seen an add-on pack for it.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Dowding on January 19, 2003, 03:15:19 PM
Wow! I love the idea of a Roman Total War.  Haven't bought the other games because I hated the poor quality unit bitmaps. This looks excellent.

Will need a monster machine tho.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Revvin on January 19, 2003, 04:30:27 PM
Sling> It hasn't been released yet but it's based on Vikings and Celtic units. You can read more about it here (http://www.totalwar.com/community/medieval/viking.htm)

Dowding> I know what you mean, I did'nt buy Shogun when it first came out because I thought it looked a little odd but glad I did buy it eventually as the bitmaps don't really  look all that bad but I agree the 3d units will perhaps appeal to a wider market because it looks so good.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Swoop on January 19, 2003, 04:45:57 PM
I heard there were 2 coming out.  Viking expansion for M:TW and R:TW as new product.

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Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: -tronski- on January 19, 2003, 10:22:51 PM
I play Med:TW heaps, would be interested in Rome:TW

 Tronsky
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: thrila on January 19, 2003, 10:59:15 PM
I bought medieval TW on saturday, i really like like this game.  I think it's much better than shogun TW, i've been playing it for most of the weekend.


I started off as england (why would i choose anyone else:) ) and i started attacking the french almost straight away.  I kicked France's arse and captured their king in a battle where i was outnumbered 2-1.  Luckily most of their army were peasents so i slaughtered them, i ransomed the French king for 10,000 gold- woohoo lotsa money!:)  He died 2 years later from natural causes and had no heir, i used the money to bribe the armies in the 2 provinces he had so i quickly conquered the whole of France.:) With lots of money to spare i bribed wales, scotland, sweden and norway to join my little Empire.

At this point i stopped attacking to consolidate my land and start building lots of stuff.  I built a nice fleet, trading with everyone and becoming very rich (i had over 60,000k in the bank) and feeling like i needed to conquer something so i wiped out the arogonese (SP?), they only had 3 provences so they got slaughtered.  My army is still pretty small with only about 2000 troops (not including the couple 100 at each provence) and with Germany having the largest army in the game i got a tad nervous.  I started building my army up and the damn alohameds (SP?) (they had conquered Spain) invaded me with loads of troops, i was crapping my pants.:eek:   I was waiting for them to trounce all over me when half of his army rebelled and they had a civil war lol.  They offered a truce immediately, naturally i told them to bugger off while i went on to conquer half of spain during their internal troubles.  


Just when i think everything is going fine the damn danish invade Sweden Curse you!!!!  I thought it would be a nice battle with them because the line up was 300 for 180 my favour.  Alas!!!  every unit he had were cavalry and slaughtered my peasents and spearmen:.:(   I offered a truce to the alohameds (they accepted) and began building an expeditionary force to kill the danes.  I sent over a 1400 man army and annnhilated the poor little danes occupying sweden.:D   Feeling vengeful i invaded Denmark crushing their 300man army and they are currently holed up in their castle.  I was just about to slaughter them when the bloody pope sends me a message telling me to call of my troops, apperently i'm being evil by attacking a fellow christian nation.:rolleyes:   Well they bloody started it!!!:mad:  

Thats about as far as i've got, tomorrow i'm gonna be conquering denmark.  I couldn't give a damn what the pope thinks, those bloody Danes asked for it.


I'm really enjoying this game, I think i'll be playing it for quite some time.:)
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Toad on January 19, 2003, 11:16:48 PM
Thrila,

I'll be visiting the Plymouth area on the 22nd.

Any good air or naval museums I should see?

Thx!
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Swoop on January 20, 2003, 12:38:44 AM
Toad, head for "Union Street" after about 9pm on a saturday night. There head for a bar called Pennies.

Actually, Thrila is Pennies still there? Been a while.......and does the shore patrol still come round in the van at 3am looking for anyone with a crew cut?

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Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Hortlund on January 20, 2003, 05:18:11 AM
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Originally posted by thrila
I sent over a 1400 man army and annnhilated the poor little danes occupying sweden.:D   Feeling vengeful i invaded Denmark crushing their 300man army and they are currently holed up in their castle.  

*sniff* *sniff* that is so beautiful. Please post some screenshots.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Dowding on January 20, 2003, 05:35:59 AM
Hey Hortlund, you'd be interested in my EU2 game. It's 1600 and I'm playing Muscovy in the Grand Campaign. I've conquered my way down to the black sea, annexed syria, lebanon and a couple of provinces around there, founded a highly lucrative string of colonies/trading posts along the Western coast of Africa trading in slaves and ivory (making a fortune) and I've got a trading post in on the East coast of South America. My armies are very powerful, Sweden in on my Western border and must crapping themselves at the prospect of the mighty Russian Imperial Empire invading. They've just had a very bloody civil war after they annexed Denmark, and I have about 100,000 troops on the border just waiting to strike.

Buhahahahaha - my plans for global domination under Imperial Russia are coming to fruition! :D

Not surprisingly, most of Western Europe hates me, but my neighbours love me. England is a close friend after many tribute payments and France is neutral. All those crappy little wannabe states are quaking in their booties, and I think Lithuania will be the next on the target list after Sweden is mine.

Meanwhile, the desert expeditionary force in Africa is busy squashing 2 foot high pygmies with my bayonet tipped muskets, while they try to graze my soldier's shins with their dried grass and sharpened guarvehards. Soon they will all be slaves and I will be even more rich.

Imperial conquest is so much fun! :D
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Hortlund on January 20, 2003, 05:59:21 AM
hehee, EU is a great stress reliever. Frustrated at work? Come home and conquer Europe, slaughter the heathens and tax your people mercilessly.

Glad to hear you have learned the ropes of EU. Sometime when the next EU2 patch arrives we should try a multiplayer. But right now EU2 MP is somewhat crash prone due to some bug that will be fixed in the next patch. Me as Sweden and you as Russia should be interesting, maybe we could find someone to play England and France too...

Personally I'm playing Hearts of Iron more and more now. With one of the user mods it is quite the challenge actually, and 1.03 (the BIG patch) is expected within 3 weeks.

Heh, in my game as Germany, I was foolish enough to attempt an invasion of Norway in late October. I ended up losing 5 German motorized and mountain divisions at the hands of two Norwegian infantry divisions. I had to force the German unit commander to commit seppuku after that disgrace.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Dowding on January 20, 2003, 06:18:43 AM
Yeah, MP would be cool. I think I've learnt the ropes - at first I was too aggressive, and as a 3 province weak Muscovian power, that's not wise. But I restarted just using diplomacy. Within 10 years I had three vassals and within another 15 I had annexed them peacebly and was busy carving my way south through the Golden Horde to the Black Sea. My Bad Boy rating was at very bad for a while, but once I set up my colonies (including a centre of trade which no one else could trade in - perpetual monopoly on a 500 credit CoT!) I had 50 years of peace to get it back to 'respectable'. Now it's time for a little more war. :)

Sweden has the potential to crush Moscow in the early years - they just need to get access through Novgorod. :)

Haven't tried Heart of Iron yet. Looks excellent though.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Swoop on January 20, 2003, 07:02:44 AM
Well HoL is good......but it's also not available in the UK yet.  Which means the only way to get it is to download a pirate copy.....which you cant apply patches to cos gamecopyworld only has the no-CD for v1.0.

And it's a seriously buggy piece of software unpatched.

I'll buy it when it comes out cos it's good enough unpatched to see it'll be a really cool game.  But the wait until March is a real pain.

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Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Hortlund on January 20, 2003, 07:29:44 AM
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Originally posted by Swoop
Well HoL is good......but it's also not available in the UK yet.  Which means the only way to get it is to download a pirate copy.....which you cant apply patches to cos gamecopyworld only has the no-CD for v1.0.

And it's a seriously buggy piece of software unpatched.

I'll buy it when it comes out cos it's good enough unpatched to see it'll be a really cool game.  But the wait until March is a real pain.

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Well Swoop, trust me, you arent missing that much right now. Even in 1.02 the bugs made the game almost unplayable, it is only with the addition of a user mod that the game is any fun to play at all (clean 1.02 is too easy, you have Germany conquering the world, yes world, in 1939). There are still a couple of really annoying bugs, but if you ignore them, the game is "fun" right now.

But 1.03 will be another story...and that one is scheduled for late feb.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Hortlund on January 20, 2003, 07:46:06 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Sweden has the potential to crush Moscow in the early years - they just need to get access through Novgorod. :)


Heh, Sweden has enough problems of her own at start. Sweden starts with piss-poor provinces and as a Danish vassal. My strategy is to work on the economy first. The first move (for me) is always to capture and annex Mecklenburg (big fat CoT), and maybe vassalize Bremen and/or Holstein. It takes some gutsy moves to achieve that though, because the Danes are aiming for the exact same provinces.

After Mecklenburg, it is time to throw off the yoke of vassalship, so I declare independence from the Danish crown, something that almost always ends with a DoW from Denmark and 20-30 000 Danes invading Sweden. That is the time to sieze Skane from Denmark, Sweden is pitifully weak without Skane.

Then I spend the next 40-50 years building the economy, using diplomacy, merchantmen and fighting off various invaders.

The problem for Sweden is that the baltic area is a hornets nest with Poland-Lithuania being a gigantic monstrocity that can easily send in five or six 30 000 men armies pretty much wherever they want. Then this beast allies with Bohemia and some of the smaller German contries, and what have you...a gigantic warsaw pact-like block that will crush anyone.

On the other side of Europe, you have France and England slugging it out while Spain is slowly growing into another absurd monster. After England has wiped out the Scots, they will usually work their way up the Netherlands/Belgium area...towards your prized Mecklenburg.

It is not fun to sit in Mecklenburg with 15 000 men carefully guarding the province that provides 70% of your total income and watch two british 45 000 men armies and five Lithuanian/Polish armies of 40 000 men each slug it out in the next province.

And then you have the Muscowites, the Prussians/Teutons and Novgorod as the wild cards. Will they fight eachother or will they come for Sweden...no one knows. And you cannot forget the Danes...they are always waiting for the opportunity to recapture what you took from them...

Yes, I love that game :) It can be frustrating as he** though.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: thrila on January 20, 2003, 10:43:09 AM
Toad, unfortunately there isn't a lot in or near plymouth at all.  most things are centrally located in the UK.


the only things i can think of are-

The fleet air arm Museum (http://www.fleetairarm.com/) in Yeovil, somerset.  That's about an 80mile drive from Plymouth.

There is the Plymouth Naval Base museum but i haven't been there since i was a kid.  I can't find any info about it on the net sorry.:(   you could go on warhsips there etc.  Ah, found something- unfortunately you can only go in groups in a pre-arranged visit.

The Bournemouth Aviation museum (http://www.aviation-museum.co.uk/alt_frameset.html)  that's about 100 miles from plymouth.

That's about all i can think of Toad.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Dowding on January 20, 2003, 11:31:09 AM
Heh, Sweden seems like a large power simply because of the land mass. Until you realise it's sparsely populated. Always feel as though it's a threat because of the tech difference early on - those advanced Scandinavians are so superior to my cavemen Russians - not any more though. I bordered Genoa after about 100 years and that gave me a huge neighbour bonus - I soon caught up and passed Sweden.

Do you know if your flag/name changes during the game at all? It's just that Muscovy sounds so... provincial. The Imperial Russian Empire sounds much more appropriate in my case. :)
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Nwbie on January 20, 2003, 01:02:05 PM
Thrila

<etc.........>

Read your post this morning after several frustrating phone calls with clients who don't understand that we have the right to screw up orders as we damn well please !!!
Sorry, got carried away..
Anyway, I laffed my arse off reading your post and must say I was emeshed into your gameplay and your response to the pope....Don't worry, they are the other type of christians, whatever that means, so conquer the bastages!!!

Anyway--thanks for the laffs, I needed em  :)

NwBie
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Swoop on January 20, 2003, 01:33:00 PM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Well Swoop, trust me, you arent missing that much right now. Even in 1.02 the bugs made the game almost unplayable, it is only with the addition of a user mod that the game is any fun to play at all (clean 1.02 is too easy, you have Germany conquering the world, yes world, in 1939). There are still a couple of really annoying bugs, but if you ignore them, the game is "fun" right now.
 


What's this user mod?

Oh and do the current patches name any more units?  Right now only the LW actually has named bombers like JU88, etc.  All the others have Basic/Improved/Advanced.



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Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Hortlund on January 20, 2003, 04:12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Swoop
What's this user mod?

Oh and do the current patches name any more units?  Right now only the LW actually has named bombers like JU88, etc.  All the others have Basic/Improved/Advanced.


Yes, the patches deal with the unit names. No more "1st BB division", instead you get "Bismarck" or "Scharnhorst", no more "pre war dive bomber" instead you get "Hs 123" (as you might see a trend here, yes, I play mostly Germany)

The user mod is made by a guy called Bolt. The mods are named "Bolts version 1.02 a-c" If you have version 1.00, dont bother trying to play it since it will have several critical bugs that makes the game completely impossible to play.

But the user mod will be obsolete when 1.03 comes along. Basically Paradox goal is to take out all known bugs and issues with 1.03 (although there will probably be some bugs left..I mean there always are)
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: Hortlund on January 20, 2003, 04:21:11 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Heh, Sweden seems like a large power simply because of the land mass. Until you realise it's sparsely populated. Always feel as though it's a threat because of the tech difference early on - those advanced Scandinavians are so superior to my cavemen Russians - not any more though. I bordered Genoa after about 100 years and that gave me a huge neighbour bonus - I soon caught up and passed Sweden.

Do you know if your flag/name changes during the game at all? It's just that Muscovy sounds so... provincial. The Imperial Russian Empire sounds much more appropriate in my case. :)


LOL, thats funny because when I play Sweden I'm always feeling I'm behind in the tech war. Constantly looking at the other nations dreading when they will go up a land tech (in the beginning, the difference between land tech 2 and land tech 3 will make all the difference in battle) You know about the impacts of land tech on morale and all that..right? (just checking since you are relatively new to the game)

But then...when you reach land tech 8 (I think its 8) gunpowder...man that is so sweet. I got my musketeers first of all in northern Europe, and immideately I declared war on Poland-Lithuania (because it is only a matter of time before they catch up with you). And man...to see your armies of 3-4 000 men smack the sh*t out of Lithuanian 30 000 men armies is a great feeling. If you can use that window (when you have muskets and your neighbours doesnt) wisely, you can grab alot of key provinces.

Usually I go for the CoTs along the baltic when I get that edge.

Yes, the name and the flags for the Muscovites will change. There are alot of events like that. To name a few, Spain will have a similar change, I cant remember which one it is, but I think it is Aragon that will turn into Spain sometime. It is also fun to see the north american colonies revolt and create the USA.
Title: Rome: Total War
Post by: thrila on January 20, 2003, 05:11:31 PM
I've got EU2, i've just never got round to installing it.  I may install it later on, whats it's like?