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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Diamax on January 20, 2003, 07:00:00 PM
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Hi Everybody!
I just downloaded the game and start playing it to seewhat's around.
Well at one point I kinda crashed but didn't die.
Here we go... I wanted to quit the game and/or go to choose another plane to try out.
Can you guys tell me what do I have to press to quit the game while playing, and turn to the main menu? and how do you quit the entire game generally speaking?!
Sorry cuz I bother you with this dum question, but i just couldn't find that darn button.
THANK YOU!
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After you bail/ditch, you've gotta come to a complete stop. Hit ESC to bring up your clipboard, then click "Tower." You'll find yourself back in the tower. There you can click "Quit" on your clipboard to log off, or "Hangar" to select a different plane.
If you actually die (pilot dead), you should find yourself back in the tower automatically.
Hope this solves your problem. Feel free to ask if you've got any more questions. In the game, you can type "/" (the backslash button) to bring up the text buffer and ask questions there.
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Thanx A Lot Tarmac!!
I just figured out the thing with the Tower.
Man is hard when you do not have the patience to read thru... LOL.
However please bear with me as I'm not familiar with the terms and english is not my first... What bail and ditch means?
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Bail: to bail out of your airplane. To jump out, then use (or perhaps not use) your parachute. To bail, you hit "enter" 3 times. Press "o" to open your chute.
Ditch: to land or crashland your plane someplace other than a runway. Usually refers to a crash landing in water, but can also mean a landing or crash in a field. You usually ditch when your plane is damaged but still flyable (damaged engine, out of fuel). Basically any landing that isn't on a runway.
Have you seen the help pages? You might find them handy. Look for the downloadable help file.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/helphom.html
netaces.org is another good place to go for help.
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Hello Tarmac!!
Very good explanations, I understand now what those terms mean.
I downloaded that help file, I actually downloaded everything on site LOL.
I really like this game, even tough is kinda hard to manouver these planes.
Again Thanx a Lot for your patience explaining those words to me, and for all your help.
Maybe I'll see you around on a server or something.
Cya!!:)
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Yeah, it's tough in the beginning, but keep at it Diablomax! It's a ton of fun once you get flying around and shooting stuff. And don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it. There's always someone who will help out.
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I downloaded that help file, I actually downloaded everything on site LOL.
I really like this game, even tough is kinda hard to manouver these planes.
Again Thanx a Lot for your patience explaining those words to me, and for all your help.
Maybe I'll see you around on a server or something.
DiabloMax,
May I suggest you spend some time in the training arena? There are many new people in there who are either just beginning or at just a little higher level. By learning along with them you have a chance to experience the fun of the dogfight and get help from more experienced virtual pilots without the frustrations of going up against old veterans immediately. AS you say, it can be hard. The training arena makes it much easier to learn.:)
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While motionless on the ground (i.e. not walking or driving or anything), you can also type in what is called a dot command to exit to the tower. Open your radio buffer with the / key, then type in .ef
The .ef command is to end flight and should send you straight back to the tower so you can start over. In the Training Arena, it is enabled all the time, so even if you are in your airplane and flying, but need/want to get back to the tower quickly, you can issue the .ef command (remember, you do it in the radio buffer).
There are other dot commands that are useful also, but you can find descriptions of some of those in the help.
-Soda
AH Trainer Corp
The Assassins.
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Hello guys!!
Thank You for all your help!! Nice people around here!:)
I didn't play online yet, because I want to get more comfortable with the game and after that I'll try online.
However I might want to try the training arena, I believe that is an online section, is that right? How do I get in there? Is that a special room on the server, are there a lot of rooms??
ONE MORE THING!!
What is the last version number (name) of Aces High??
I want to buy it from the store, because I believe the one I downloaded is kinda like a demo version, right? In there is only one map, or at least I cannot see more than one. I'd like to have the full version.
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The training arena is in the online section of the game. Start the game, log in, then look at the screen and it will show all the arenas available for your use. The Training Arena (TA) usually has a small group of pilots in it, some who are also learning, and others who are there to try and help out. Feel free to ask questions, or ask for help, when in there as there are usually people who may have the same questions, or people who can answer them. Also, look for members who are in the Training Corps (I'm a member), they often transmit on the radio in a blue colour. They are specifically there to help people out.
There is no store version of Aces High, you have the full version from the download, and if there are updates it will automatically prompt you when you log in to download the latest version. If you version is fairly seriously out of date it may take a little while, but if you are simply missing the latest patches, it shouldn't take long at all. Maps will also download as required when you enter an arena for which you don't have a map, or for which a new map is available. Simple as can be. If your download connection is slow, I think you can order an version on CD from HTC, but typically this shouldn't be required (I don't know anyone who has ordered one)
-Soda
AH Trainer
The Assassins.
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One additional point. You can only log into the online section of the game if you are still on your 2 week free trial, or if you have become a paying member. Once the 2 week trial is over, you have to pay, even for the training arena. If you are still on your 2 week trial though you are free to do everything that a paying member can, no restrictions.
You may also want to check out the help files on the Aces High Website, and check out http://www.netaces.org (a site run by one of the AH Trainers). There are lots of links on Netaces to many other AH information sites.
-Soda
AH Trainer
The Assassins.
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Thanx Soda!
Nice link there, alot of tips and stuff.
I want to ask you about some manouvering tips.
Today I played again single player (offline), and in the beggining was very frustrating, I was going down a lot of times, I was just going down in rotation and couldn't control the aircraft anymore (I don't know the term in english for this).
However at some point I start gaining a litlle bit more control over the situation, regaining control over the plane by using the "X" key on the keyboard and the mouse. Still from time to time I lose control of the plane. I think this happens when I try to manouver a little bit to fast, or suddenly, let's say when I try to turn the plane too short (in a small circle).
Can you please tell me what is the best way to regain control over the plane when in such situation, is there a trick or someting, cuz sometimes is very hard to regain the control and when I'm close by the ground most of the time I just crash the plane.
Another question... how do you control the speed of the plane? I tried by using the "-" and "+" on the keyboard and on the num pad of the keyboard, but it didn't do anything.
Sorry if I bother you too much...:) Do you know any site (beside the official one) that has maps for Aces High? planes, and skins, all this kind of things?
Thank You Very Much!
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The english word for the control loss is "stall". Some planes' stall is more pronounced/nasty than others.
It happens when the constant stream of air around a wing is interrupted - you're either going too slow, or maneuvering too hard.
To pull out, apply full rudder against the direction your plane is rotating in, cut throttle for a bit. When the rotation has stopped, let the plane gather some speed first, then *gently* pull up.
See the keymapping ( Clipboard -> Setup -> Key Mapping ) for keys to increase/decrease throttle. To effectively control your plane, you'll need a joystick with throttle control plus either a twist axis or rudder pedals for rudder control.
Welcome aboard !
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Thank You Devious!!
So when you go down spinning out of control, that is called stalling (stall=loss of control)
I'm not sure exactly what do you mean by rudder, but I'll figure all this out. I guess I have to learn the terms. That is OK.
Thank You again!!
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I might recommend picking a plane with fairly easy handling to start with, that is less prone to serious stalls with a wider margin of low speed safety. The Spitfire (V or IX) tends to be very easy to control, so might be a smart choice.
Usually, I find people stalling because they forget that the planes in AH aren't jets that have lots of excess thrust. To actually reach maximum speed in any plane in AH can take in excess of 2.5 minutes. You should always be looking to maintain at least 200mph so that you can have some control and not risk a slow stall. 250mph is even better. Also, climb a bit, get above 5K, which will give you a chance to recover if you do stall.
One additional comment, I'm not sure if you have a joystick to control flight or not, but you really need to have one. Flying with a keyboard/mouse/gamepad is unlikely to get you very far. A properly calibrated joystick is a must.
-Soda
AH Trainer
The Assassins.
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NO stall and spin are 2 differnt things
Stall = loss of airflow on the wing. Results normally in a slightly but constantly drop of the nose.
Spin = totall abrupt loss of airlfow either on top or under the wing or both. Results in a bad uncontrolable spiral downwards.
The plane is going down a a thight spiral without any chance or maybe a small chance to get the control back.
It depends on how u brought the plane into the spin.
Usually the US crap (J/K) 51's F4U's tending to go into a bad bad spin when u pull to high G's with to low speed.
To recover from a stall is normally pretty easy. Just go to full power and push the nose towards the ground untill u get enough speed back. Then pull up slightly
To recover from a spin is hard but depends on the plane u fly.
I recover by chpoing the throttle and using my rudder stop the plane from turning tight around the vertical axis. As soon as the nose is calm and i reach 150 - 200 mph i go to full power and pull up on the stick.
Sometimes it helps to bring the flaps out to enlarge the wing area.
But usually if u go into a spin with a 51 or F4u and u are under 10k feet u are dead.
But it depends all on the situation.
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Hi Soda!
The plane that I was flying last night, after reading those tips on the webpage that you
gave me the link for is the japanese one (N1K2-J).
Well actually I never played a flight simulator game before, I tried couple of times, but I
didn't get a nice feeling out of those games, therfore I gave up after couple of minutes
ussually.
However when I tried Aces High was totally different, even tough i found it very hard to
play (fly) I also found it very realistic, and that's why I actually really liked it in the
first place (realistic looking and felling). AS you see i do not have any experience in
simulators even tough I've always liked planes.
I'm using keyboard and mouse to play the game, never before touched a joystick, and I'm
wondering what would be the best joystick to buy. I heard that Microsoft SideWinder would be
a good one, what do you think, should I buy that?
THANK YOU!
Hi FFFreeze220!
Yes, that's is what I was actually getting into.
After manouvering (stearing) the plane to one side or the other, many times I end up going down in a thight spiral, spinning out of control. Many times I end up crashing, especially when I'm
not too high up, or if I don't crash when I manage to get the plane back on track I already lost a lot of altitude. Every time before I go downwards spinning a kind of hhhhrrr sound I hear in the speakers.
THANK YOU!
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There are basicly 2 different kind of joysticks on the market.
Type 1 has a rudder twist.
U can use the Z axis by twisting the stick to the right or left.
for example:
Saitek Cyborg Gold (http://www.saitek.com
(http://www.saitek.de/images/prodimages/pcp/goldcyborg.jpg)
Type 2 is a HOTAS. Hand On Throttle And Stick
It has a little whip on the throttle with which u can control the rudder. Not all have it but most do have it.
Saitek X45 (http://www.saitek.com)
(http://www.saitek.de/images/prodimages/pcp/x45.jpg)
What kind u like is up to ur own feeling.
I prefer a HOTAS system because i dont like the rudder control in 1 hand toghether with the ailron and elevator.
Because u often use the rudder in the different way u use the ailron.
So its up to ur own what u may prefer to use.
any stick u are comfortable with is ok.
But u should make sure it has rudder control on it with either a whip or a twist.
If not u have to buy rudder pedals. And thats is extra $$$
So browse the market and find the best for u.
I would recommend the saitek X45. Its a cheap stick and very good IMPOV.
Mine hold for 1 and half year. And approx 800 hours flying
I hope i could help
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That "hhhhrrrr" sound you're hearing is probably the stall horn. It's a warning that you're doing something you shouldn't do. Maybe you're turning to hard or going to slow. When you start to hear it, back off on the hard control movements and make sure you're going over 200 mph. You never want to make sudden, jerky control movements... keep it smooth.
You can turn on the "stall limiter" a feature that keeps you from stalling/spinning your plane. Never used it, but from what I understand it just keeps you from doing things that will stall the plane. Might be useful for you until you get the hang of takeoffs, flying around, and landings. To turn it on, go to (from the clipboard) setup/flight/enable stall limiter. Be sure you turn it off when you learn how to fly, or it will be a handicap when fighting others.
As for joysticks, I don't know too much about them. I own 3 Logitech joysticks (1 bought, 2 warranty replacements) that all have a broken rudder twist axis. So I'd recommend staying away from those. The basic things you want in a joystick are a rudder axis (probably twisty stick), a throttle control of some type, and an 8-way hat switch. You can probably get a decent one for around $40 US. And my personal preference is to avoid force feedback... it's dumb in my opinion, and is just one more thing that can break.
Hope this helps you out.
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Stay away from the stall limiter.
Either learn it the hard way and practise or let it be.
IMPOV the stall limiter is ruining the feeling for the plane.
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I think you're probably safe going with a Saitek or a Microsoft stick. I have a Microsoft Force Feedback, been using it for 3 years without a hiccup. Maybe look to see what kind of price you can find on one. There really is no need to go ultra expensive, unless you really want to. Figure on finding a stick with at least 1 hat, a throttle, and a half dozen buttons. Any less and you'll be reaching to the keyboard for everything, any more and you're likely looking at some pretty big $.
I think someone did a poll not long ago on joystick brands people use to fly and lots of people had equipment that sold for under $50USD. It's easy to spend way more though, if you go for stick, throttle, and rudder pedals seperately.
-Soda
The Assassins.
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The two joysticks I'd reccomend are the Thrustmaster Afterburner and Saitek X45. My cyborg's spring got mushy after only a month or so.
The afterburner is a great stick, durable as hell. It has the option to use either a twist on the stick, or a rocker on the throttle as rudder control. A bit lacking on buttons, but comfortable to use, and not particularly expensive.
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I think I found out how I was being out manuvered by less agile planes. I never new there was such a thing as the stall limiter, so I went to the clipboard and checked, sure enough it was enabled. I was wondering why everyone was talking about flat spins and such, I have never lost control while flying. watch me spin now!! wahooo!!!!!!!!
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Hello guys!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR FEEDBACK!!!:)
YOU ARE REALLY GREAT!!!!
Now I crash less and less;) most of the time (about 80%) I can regain control of the plane now.
Someone here said that I should point the nose of the plane down in case that I start loosing control and spin downwards, well that really helped. Now when I hear that hhhhrrrrr noise I just point the nose of the plane a little bit down and that prevents spinning downwards out of control.
However if I start spinning downwards out of control in a spiral many times I just point the nose straight to the ground and try regaining altitude by hitting the "X" key to stabilize and right after pointing the nose back up slowly until I gain altitude again.
All this seem to work pretty well for me, like I said now I crash less and less.
This might be a good tip for some other beginners like me.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH GUYS, YOU'RE REALLY HELPFULL!!!:)
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Glad we could help u.