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Title: KI61!
Post by: Broes on January 08, 2002, 01:46:00 PM
(http://members.home.nl/b.jongejans/ki61.gif)

Found in the Terrain editor.. so it might be old...

Broes
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Post by: AKSWulfe on January 08, 2002, 01:53:00 PM
That's a Ki67, Ki61 is the fighter already in the game.
-SW
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Post by: Broes on January 08, 2002, 01:55:00 PM
ehum... yeah... that one!  :)

Broes
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Post by: Kieran on January 08, 2002, 02:02:00 PM
Why aren't you shooting?  ;)
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Post by: Superfly on January 08, 2002, 02:56:00 PM
You're not supposed to see that yet!  Looks like a really old build of it too.
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Post by: Octavius on January 08, 2002, 03:05:00 PM
lol, the cat's outta the bag
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Post by: mason22 on January 08, 2002, 03:12:00 PM
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY:
You're not supposed to see that yet!  Looks like a really old build of it too.

what SUPAFLY meant to say was "oops"
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Post by: moose on January 08, 2002, 03:13:00 PM
hahahahaha

thats hilarious
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Post by: Fatty on January 08, 2002, 03:15:00 PM
No, no, no SF.  You're supposed to say, "That doesn't look bad, what game is that from?"
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Post by: Mitsu on January 08, 2002, 03:22:00 PM
hmmmmmm.

I'm looking for Ki-67 engine sound.  :rolleyes:

SF, do you release newest Ki-67 pic?

-Mitsu
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Post by: Apache on January 08, 2002, 03:34:00 PM
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Originally posted by Mitsu:
hmmmmmm.

I'm looking for Ki-67 engine sound.   :rolleyes:

SF, do you release newest Ki-67 pic?

-Mitsu

[hijack mode on]
Speaking of sounds. Mitsu, I installed your sound pak lastnight. Incredible! Made my fun lastnight all the more enjoyable.

The japanese 6 call caught me by surprise however, lol.

Anyway, thanks for all the work you must put into this.
[hijack mode off]
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Post by: Superfly on January 08, 2002, 03:47:00 PM
Screenshots?  I'm sure Broes can make some more for you.   :)
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Post by: Tac on January 08, 2002, 03:52:00 PM
May I ask for the stats on that twin?

Armament and top speed my main interest  :)
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Post by: Nefarious on January 08, 2002, 03:53:00 PM
man that thing is a beast, ugly as sin!

but im sure it makes up for its looks with its firepower!
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Post by: Swoop on January 08, 2002, 03:57:00 PM
Type: Heavy Bomber, Heavy Escort Fighter
Origin: Mitsubishi
Crew: Six/Eight
Allied Code Name: Peggy
Models: Ki-67-Ia, Ib and Ki-67-II, and Ki-109
First Flight: Early 1943, Ki-109: August 1944
Service Delivery: April 1944
Final Delivery: N/A
Production: 698
    Mitsubishi: 606
    Kawasaki: 91
    Army Air Arsenal at Tachikawa: 1

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Powerplant:
Model: Mitsubishi Ha-104
Type: 18-cylinder two-row radial engine
Number: Two       Horsepower: 1,900 hp

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dimensions:
Wing Span: 73 ft. 9.75 in. (14.55m)
Length: 61 ft. 4.25 in. (18.7m)
Height: 18 ft. 4.5 in. (5.60m)
Wing Area: 708.83 sq. ft. (65.85mē)
    Weights:
Empty (Ki-67-Ib): 8,649 kg (19,068 lb)
Loaded: 13,765 kg (30,346 lb)

Performance:
Max. Speed: 537 km/h (334 mph)
Initial Climb: 1,476 ft/min (450 m/min)
Service Ceiling: 9470m (31,070 ft.)
Max. Range: 1000 km (621 miles)
   With full bomb load and 2 hr. reserve.

Armament: Ki-67-Ia & Ki-67-Ib
One 20mm Ho-5 cannon in electric dorsal turret
One 12.7mm Type 1 manually aimed in nose
One 12.7mm Type 1 manually aimed in tail
One 12.7mm Type 1 manually aimed in each beam

Bomb Load:
1,764 lb. (800kg)

 (http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)

[ 01-08-2002: Message edited by: Swoop ]
Title: KI61!
Post by: Staga on January 08, 2002, 04:16:00 PM
So is Natedog modelling "Greif" ?   :)
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Post by: Karnak on January 08, 2002, 04:20:00 PM
Ah, Broes, ya shoulda let them post images of it when it was good and ready.  Its never fun to have things leaked.

I guess it got left in the editor on accident.
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Post by: Mitsu on January 08, 2002, 04:24:00 PM
[edit]I've read Karnak's post.
so I deleted this response.
Pyro or HT may feel bad this happening...[/edit]

Apache,
Thanks, I will have a patch in next version.    ;)

-Mitsu

[ 01-08-2002: Message edited by: Mitsu ]
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Post by: Nefarious on January 08, 2002, 04:30:00 PM
Hmmmmm i thought the Ki67 had a hard nose and was strictly a heavy bomber killer, did the Ki67 or later versions have a hard nose, in otherwords no glass?

and plus i thought they had a 75mm cannon for buff-killn'??

maybe im thinking of a different plane.
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Post by: Mitsu on January 08, 2002, 04:47:00 PM
It's a Ki-109, Nefarious.
Mitsubishi has produced 22 Ki-109s.
It's a modified model of Ki-67.
It has tested against B-29, but result was failure.
Ki-109 couldn't climb to B-29's flying altitude.

BTW, it was very good at (small) ship attack in the test.
But it hasn't been used for its role after all.
(Imperial Japanese Army kept these planes for the final battle.)

-Mitsu

[ 01-08-2002: Message edited by: Mitsu ]
Title: KI61!
Post by: moose on January 08, 2002, 05:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak:
Ah, Broes, ya shoulda let them post images of it when it was good and ready.  Its never fun to have things leaked.

I guess it got left in the editor on accident.

nah
i think it was a cool 'easter egg' to find and plus, we all knew about the ki-67 anyway

now when we see the finished product we'll even be more happy  :) all this is is just a small morsel fed to the fishes
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Post by: Tac on January 08, 2002, 10:33:00 PM
suks.

Though I'd fly THAT instead of the ju88 just because its got 1 cannon.. weee!
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Post by: Kieran on January 09, 2002, 06:12:00 AM
There are a lot of Mossie and B-26 pilots that just might disagree with ya there.
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Post by: Preon1 on January 09, 2002, 07:42:00 AM
So SF, when are we going to see it?

Two weeks?
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Post by: Vermillion on January 09, 2002, 11:53:00 AM
Before anyone talks about how bad it "sucks", tell me what the current fastest bomber in AH is, and whats its maximum speed ??

 ;)
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Post by: K West on January 09, 2002, 12:05:00 PM
The Arado!

and it goes "FAST!"   :D


Westy
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Post by: Karnak on January 09, 2002, 03:51:00 PM
The Ar234B, and its slower than a Mosquito B.XVI when carrying bombs (and it carries less bombs as well).

The fastest non-perk bomber is the B-17G Flying Fortress, which reaches a speed of 300mph at 30,000ft, according to the AH charts.  The Ju-88A-4 would be the 2nd fastest with a speed of 286mph at 15,000ft.
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Post by: Tac on January 09, 2002, 08:14:00 PM
verm, it says its a bomber/heavy fighter.

Sort of like a mossie. And that speed really aint that hot.

I dont know if the figures say that it turns good or accels good, but as a fighter it may not be very useful.
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Post by: brady on January 09, 2002, 08:33:00 PM
It is not a fighter, it is a very good medieum bomber, that is also torpedo capable, btw, I hope we get the varient with the twin 12.7mm mg's in the rear.Another interesting point is that the guns it carries are all based on the US 50 cal, MG, in fact if they were put side to side they would look almost identical. These are improved weapons they are lighter and fire faster than thier US counterparts, they also fire HEI rounds as apposed to the standard US Ball ammo.
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Post by: Kieran on January 09, 2002, 09:34:00 PM
...and if you come in from the top you risk the business end of the 20mm HO cannon. It may carry a light load, but it should be more maneuverable than a B-26 and have some punch.
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Post by: Citabria on January 09, 2002, 10:26:00 PM
yep its such a great bomber it may get used as much as the ju88
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Post by: Citabria on January 09, 2002, 10:27:00 PM
add to that it carries almost as much bomb tonage as the tbm   :rolleyes:
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Post by: Staga on January 09, 2002, 11:13:00 PM
Don't worry Cit; I'm sure it works fine in scenarios  :)
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Post by: brady on January 10, 2002, 12:18:00 AM
The fastest non perk buff in the game with a defensive aramement on a par with the B 26 and with good handeling, and a usable bomb load. i should think it would see a lot of use.

  It does not pack a huge load, but it does have nice load options for various mishions. You can die ack a field with it, hit specific targets and take out ammo, fuel or other important targets at a field under atack, add this to it's obvious survivability and you have an atractive package. You also can't forget it's abality to do torpedo attacks.

  The Ki 67 was a very good choice for Pyro for the Japanese, undoubtadely one of their best buff's of the latter war perioud.
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Post by: fdiron on January 10, 2002, 02:27:00 AM
The speed is the main factor that I like.  Will be great for low level bombing missions.
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Post by: Kieran on January 10, 2002, 06:04:00 AM
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yep its such a great bomber it may get used as much as the ju88
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Fester

 
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add to that it carries almost as much bomb tonage as the tbm
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Fester
 


Don't pout, it's so... ugly.  ;)
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Post by: skernsk on January 10, 2002, 08:01:00 AM
Will it be available off the CV? :)
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Post by: Pongo on January 10, 2002, 09:19:00 AM
People will be whining about it. The combo of 330 mhp and its defensive package makes for lots of interceptor kills.
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Post by: Karnak on January 10, 2002, 10:32:00 AM
skernsk,

No, it was a land based aircraft.  I am not aware of any Japanese twin engined carrier aircraft.
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Post by: hazed- on January 10, 2002, 10:37:00 AM
that doesnt look like the He177 at all!!! superfly it needs more work!!  :D