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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Udie on January 22, 2003, 07:04:52 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/22/sprj.irq.wrap/index.html
"U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed French and German opposition to war with Iraq saying that the two countries represent "old Europe" and that NATO's expansion means "the center of gravity is shifting to the east."
:D
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The same guy that said draftees were of no value.
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How anytime, anyone disagrees with right wing nut-jobs they attempt to marginalize or defame them.
Yep, the "adults" are in charge aren't they? :rolleyes:
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I bet you I could kick the crap out Rumsfeld.
Thank you.
PS: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.
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Agreed Thrawn.
I only wish for "Peace In Our Times!"
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Agreed Thrawn.
I only wish for "Peace In Our Times!"
Silly Grun, Chambelain didn't obtain peace, so he could hardly be called a peacemaker.
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The same guy that said draftees were of no value.
He was right. It took a soldier 3-6 months in 'country' to learn the skills of combat, then by the time he became proficient, he was close to DEROS.
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Yeppers! Better to have them inside the tent peeing outside than outside of the tent peeing inside.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
He was right. It took a soldier 3-6 months in 'country' to learn the skills of combat, then by the time he became proficient, he was close to DEROS.
You cant expect people to understand logic like this. In the future, use keywords like "chimpy" and "4th Reich" in order to get a point across. :D
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
The same guy that said draftees were of no value.
No, you don't understand. He was misunderstood
http://www.msnbc.com/news/862689.asp?0dm=C213N
“It is painful for anyone, and certainly a public servant whose words are carried far and wide, to have a comment so unfortunately misinterpreted,” Rumsfeld said, adding that it was “particularly troubling” to know there are service men and women — past and present — “who may believe that the secretary of defense would say or mean what some have written. I did not. I would not.”
First Lott, now Rumsfeld. Can't they just say "sorry, i said something dumb, my apologies " ?
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Of no value....you might want to count the number of the names on the Wall that had a US in their service number and not a RA. Being a dratee was of no value to those in charge at the moment. How many did their time in the NG or Rerserves? I can start with the President. Say did that spiffy Cheney also get deferrments.
HC
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Who let you out of your box?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Silly Grun, Chambelain didn't obtain peace, so he could hardly be called a peacemaker.
he obtained it ~ 20,000 times, no?
...david is DEROS the same as FIGMO?
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Donald tell me about ur mother.
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So, USA decides who's IN on the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
In other words, what he is saying is that the center of gravity will always shift to the nations who agree with anything the US wants to do.
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Who gives a flying tosspiece what Rumsfeld thinks? He's the biggest joker in the pack. Why do we never hear anything from Colin Powell - virtually everything he's said over the last two years makes sense. He's a voice of reason overshadowed by his freakish compatriots, 99% of the time. He'd make a good President in terms of foreign affairs.
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Colin Powell right now would be a great president. The best in many years.
But thats dreaming.
And out of topic.
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Forgive me if I take a moment to be Grunherzian in my reply to Udie:
DISSENT IS DISLOYALTY, CRITICISM IS ANTI-AMERICANISM, WE SAVED YOUR tulips AND YOU SHALL KNEEL!
Thankyou.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Silly Grun, Chambelain didn't obtain peace, so he could hardly be called a peacemaker.
Aha, so it is only if you are successful that you can claim to be a peacemaker? People with good intentions who try and fail are just not good enough to be called peacemakers?
Geez Thrawn...
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DEROS is Date of Estimated Rotation out of Service. The deros date for a draftee just arriving in Vietnam was usually 1 year from that point.
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ah - like FIGMO, but not as good...
...all this stuff about Chamberlin: they scored a hundred points in a game 100 points[/i][/b][/color] in only one game - what else do you want from a guy? whens the last time someone even got near 80? most teams dont even average 100 & that 13 guys! & Wilt did it all by himself...this is like if gretzky got an octuple hatrick or if john rocker pitched a perfect game & then beat up every jew in the stadium afterwards...100 points[/i][/b][/color]...just amazing!
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Wilt was also double in rebounds, and according to his autobioraphy, Wilt had 5 women after that game.... almost a triple double.:D
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Powell would be a great pres for the USA, I'm afraid his peers would not nominate him for the presidential ticket since he's not a WASP and secondly for thinking out side the box(Re:McCain)
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Serious question here: Is Powell a leader, or, is he a better Follower?
All I know of him is following his orders from his Boss and toeing the party line.
Input anybody?
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Muahahaha. Go ahead Rumsfield.
The next economic superpower is Europe. Please ignore us while we build our strength.
'New Denmark' sounds so much better than 'Texas' after all.
:D
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Hey Glassssesssssss ur still flying? Where have u been?
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Yup I am, I just came back.
you'll see me soon online :D
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Cool
bro
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Quote:
"The next economic superpower is Europe."
Really?? Europe has no experience in being an "economic superpower" other than through conquest, occupation, and the exploitation by force of defeated populations.
The fact is NO nation, or group of nations, becomes an "economic superpower" without doing business with the United States. And a "United States of Europe" will work only if Germany or France dominates it. What else is new..........
In any case, businessmen in Europe and elsewhere don't share the same stupidity that infects their Socialist governments/politicians.
Quit the pipedreaming, StSanta.............
Cabby
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Cabby, one could argue that it was for the same reasons that the US became an economic superpower.
This is not a meant as a rebuke so please dont take it as such.
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Serious question here: Is Powell a leader, or, is he a better Follower? - Ping
I believe that Powell is a leader who undestands the concept of chain of command, having worked within it most of his career.
I think the guy is Presidential matierial, and I think I could vote for him if he ran.
Problem is, his wife is afraid he would be assasinated and she won't support the idea.
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Powell is the most over rated politician on planet earth.
ra
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Powell would be a great pres. remember he came up through the Army which mean he has led troops before. And honestly folks unless you are at THE top you are a follower.
Unfortunately for me and seems like many others, voting usually boils down to who is the lesser of 2 evils.
And ra
Powell wasnt a politician his entire life he was a soldier and thats why I like him.
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if the europes and brits think he'd be a good pres - then I hope he is never elected to the position :)
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It's about time US gets the first black president!
VOTE POWELL!
I've always liked the guy judging from his media appearances.
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There were some cool letters being displayed on Foxnews last night like.....
"France does 2 things well: Make Champagne and Surrender"
:eek:
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Powell would be a great pres. remember he came up through the Army which mean he has led troops before.
I know lots of military guys, and there is no correlation between their military background and suitablilty to be head of state. They are just like the rest of us in that respect, leadership is only one quality. Take John Glenn. His career as a soldier was much more impressive than Powell's, but as a politician he is just another hack.
Like everyone else in this thread I don't know what Powell's politics are (he probably doesn't either), but all the wrong people like him.
ra
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Powell is not a politician. To the best of my knowledge, he has never run for political office. He was appointed to the cabinet post of Secretary of State.
Shuckins
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A politician does not have to run for office. Look up the definition in your dictionary. It's right next to the picture of Powell.
ra
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Maybe you think that RUmsfeld was funny - but I cant laugh about this. This speach is helping the socialists in Germany.
Germany is under the rule of Schroeder and his socialists party and the chaos-green party.
In 10 days we will have elections in Hessen and Nidersachsen - and if the conservative CDU wins in both Schroeder will be politicly damaged and could not make any laws without the permission of the CDU.
Every analysis shows that the conservative CDU can win both elections.
And in this critical moment this ridiculous Rumsfeld has nothing better to do than to bubble this nonsense and raise anti-american feelings.
So the socialists are today really thankful for his help for Schroeder.
I just hope that this idiot dont say anything else in the next 10 days - so we can minimize the power of Schroeder with the elections.
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Babek, youve just convinced me that its not time to move there :)
Think I'll stay here in canada just a wee bit longer, even if I have to put up with that bastard Chretien.
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Cost to defeat Germany: Billions
Cost to rebuild Germany: Billions
Listening to the Germans rant and make judgements on the United States about military policies: Priceless
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Poor Rumsfeld. He must think Britain is East of France and Germany. That's the only reason I can think of to explain his ignoring of the fact that UK has just sent a third of its army and most of its navy to the Gulf region. Or that Britain has agreed to provide the radar coverage needed for the missile defence system to work - a missile defence system that does jack toejam for Britain apart from make the UK a target for a pre-emptive system shut-down strike.
Then again, he is getting on. Perhaps it's just senility. The old Grandpa Simpson lookalike. Awwwwwww.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Cost to defeat Germany: Billions
Cost to rebuild Germany: Billions
Listening to the Germans rant and make judgements on the United States about military policies: Priceless
:D
It should be:
Cost to defeat Germany: Millions of lives
How many will the invasion of Iraq cost? Choose ur unit $ or lives.
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The Germans have enough Problems of their own..............
Bwahahahaha:D
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How many will the invasion of Iraq cost? Choose ur unit $ or lives.
0 DM, 0 German lives.
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DEATH TO SODOMY INSAIN!!!!
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Originally posted by ra
0 DM, 0 German lives.
Yep, cool right? No germans will die for a useless war!
Dont get me wrong. I'm no pacifist.
I would change my mind and provide a war when anyone could show me why someone should invade Iraq and not North Korea, Pakistan or any african state where a fat dictator is killing all citizens.
But I'm sorry until now I've not seen any reasons for a war. Maybe it would be more intelligent for Mr. Adolf Rumsfeld if he would give some reasons instead of talking BS.
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Originally posted by Duedel
Yep, cool right? No germans will die for a useless war!
useless war?
If the allies had declared war on Germany on August 14th 1939 and managed to kill Hitler with limited loss of life on both sides, would that war have been useless?
Im sorry Duedel, but you have no idea what you are talking about here.
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Europe has no experience in being an "economic superpower" other than through conquest, occupation, and the exploitation by force of defeated populations.
Funny how Americans tend to forget this is word to word and exactly how their beloved country was created, by Europeans nonetheless.
Actually the majority of the original white americans have a purely european background if you look at the ancestors :)
That's why I always shout 'Hello cousin!' when I see Americans.
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Actually the majority of the original white americans have a purely european background if you look at the ancestors
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We prefer to call it evolution...isnt it obvious ;)
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" If Iraq is invaded we will hold the oil in a trust fund for the Iraqi people"- George Bush
Yeah right!!! roflmao(I'm definitely going to be flamed)
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I'm afraid his peers would not nominate him for the presidential ticket since he's not a WASP
Hey Glasses...what makes you an expert on American Politics. Thats a serious charge your throwing about. Are you Island People Allowed to vote anyway ?? I HOPE NOT....
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Yeager judging from the spelling on this board, evolution might have taken a step backwards. I mean, look at your president :p
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Powell is the most over rated politician on planet earth.
Amen. Powell would be a horrible president.
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And why is that? Because he's black?
Powells statements are the most clearheaded and logical I've yet seen from high US officials. That indicates that he very well has what it takes to govern.
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Gen Powell is a GREAT american!
But there are still some handsomehunk mouth breathing good old boys who will never allow a african american pres!
It is sad but oh so true.
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Colon Powell is black?
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Good point Sixpence. All real black people are liberal democrats...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Good point Sixpence. All real black people are liberal democrats...
to most of his own race they are ...
Powell, being a REPUBLICAN, wouldn't any more a break from the media or the dumacrats than Bush is getting. He'd be labeled an Uncle Tom as many of his own race do today ....
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Fortunately you people really have no say in who will become the next president.. Lol.
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My point being not to look at things as black and white.
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Yes we are Sweep,sorry to dissapoint you, once they become legal residents of any State of the union we do and can vote for the local representatives of congress,senate and for president,you name it .
Ameritard. :D
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BTW I'd be more afraid of the Japanese becoming an SP and their mecha building capabilities :D :D
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Originally posted by Hortlund
useless war?
If the allies had declared war on Germany on August 14th 1939 and managed to kill Hitler with limited loss of life on both sides, would that war have been useless?
Im sorry Duedel, but you have no idea what you are talking about here.
Hortlund do u really want to compare Saddam Hussein with Adolf Hitler?
Do u really think that if Hitler would have been killed the WWI could have been prevented - maybe, maybe not?
Do u really think all diplomatic possibilities are used to force Saddam to do what we want to do?
Do u really think that to annihilate Saddam will solve the problems in that region?
Do u really think u can declare war on Iraq and not declare war on North Korea etc. and still be creditable?
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The sad fact is, With a rush to war, the area is only going to become more destabilized. Terrorist attacks will increase against American interests and more importantly, fuel the hatred that breeds terrorists even more so.
Have any patriots here wondered WHY Iraqs neighbours DONT want the war? You would think that they have the most to gain from Saddams removal, yet they are the ones cautioning against it.
Already your allied regimes are starting attacks against your people, shouldnt that send off warning bells?
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We will have an opportunity to instill a democracy in Iraq which will be an example and perhaps force other nations in that region to move in the same direction."
LOL, I can see it now:
"You veel like this democracy ve're givink you whether you like eet or not!"
If it come's down to war and toppling Sadaam from power, I'll bet we won't be seeing any free elections for a long, long time in Iraq. We'll just prop up a dictator to do our bidding, after all our government doesn't really care about democracy and freedom for others. We won't be seeing free elections in Afghanistan either.
Reminds me when Kirkpatrick gave a gift to Pinochet because he was "pro democracy and freedom" (the irony that his military junta overthrew their democratically elected Salvadore Allende and Pinochet was a ruthless dictator). Former president Bush did the same to Ferdinand Marcos (well after Marcos declared martial law).
Somoza. Bautista (just to name a couple more). Yep, we have a good track record on supporting democracy :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Duedel
Hortlund do u really want to compare Saddam Hussein with Adolf Hitler?
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Yes, I think it is a ggod comparrisson. But I would also like to compare Saddam to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il (the list can be made long). Lets just say that Saddam fits into the "insane dictator, ready willing and able to kill millions for whatever reason"-category.
Do u really think that if Hitler would have been killed the WWI could have been prevented - maybe, maybe not?
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You must mean ww2. My answer would be this: I dont think that killing Hitler would have prevented ww2. I think the root causes of ww2 can be found in the Versaille treaty combined with the growth of communism causing civil unrest all over Europe. BUT I think that if Hitler had been killed in WWI, then there would not have been any holocaust.
Do u really think all diplomatic possibilities are used to force Saddam to do what we want to do?
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I dont think the situation can be solved by diplomacy. Mad dictators have a tendency to try to stay in power for as long as they can.
Do u really think that to annihilate Saddam will solve the problems in that region?
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No...but that is VERY beside the point. I do think that killing Saddam Hussein and removing all weapons of mass destruction from Iraq will solve the problem of having a mad dictator armed with weapons of mass destruction, supporting terrorist organizations, in Iraq.
Do u really think u can declare war on Iraq and not declare war on North Korea etc. and still be creditable?
Yes. Who said you have to declare war on Iraq and N Korea at the same time? That would only be stupid. One thing at a time. N Korea has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that they too need to be disarmed/stripped of their current leadership. But, since the US cannot do Iraq and N Korea at the same time, N Korea will have to wait.
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arm chair commanders .. the lot of ya
I'll leave my fate & trust in the hands of the real ones in our military & white house today
they know 1000x more than they inform the media & you
if we fire a single shot, evidence will b given b4 hand which brings everyone together once again
carry on with your useless babble
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Originally posted by Eagler
I'll leave my fate & trust in the hands of the real ones in our military & white house today
they know 1000x more than they inform the media & you
Yep, the germans did the same in the 1930's
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Really?? Europe has no experience in being an "economic superpower" other than through conquest, occupation, and the exploitation by force of defeated populations.
The fact is NO nation, or group of nations, becomes an "economic superpower" without doing business with the United States. And a "United States of Europe" will work only if Germany or France dominates it. What else is new..........
In any case, businessmen in Europe and elsewhere don't share the same stupidity that infects their Socialist governments/politicians.
Quit the pipedreaming, StSanta.............
Whatever you're smoking Cabby, save some for me.
Check the European economy. We have over 300 million people using the same currency. We got some good companies and have reestablished an intelligentsia that rivals the one in the US (which benefitted hugely from WWII).
Our modern economy isn't based on conquest or whatnot, and we have as much economic experience as does the USA. We'll trade with the USA, but if you notice the export/import US vs Europe, you'll notice that the US imports more than it exports to a larger degree than Europe.
Several scholars have pointed out that USAs real enemy isn't Iraq, North Korea or China. Economically, Europe is gaining speed. Militarily we cannot compete with the US and we have no reason to do so.
The US will spend its time in the sun - just like Europe did. Then another nation or part of the world will take over. This cycle has been her since men formed nations. And it's not likely to end. I suggest you take a look at the combined European economy from the early 1900s forward - you'll see that we were badly lagging behind Americans but that the difference is ever narrowing. Combine the economies in the EU, and you have an lready today potent economic adversary.
Sidenote: from US Census Bureau: US trade with western Europe (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c0002.html) balance (millions of dollars): -79,607.80.
Heh, now send that d00bie around.
Eagler, I hope we'll get that evidence. The US hasn't been very forthcoming with what they have of Iraq - Rummie has gone as far as saying 'the fact that we don't find anything proves that they have it'.
Apply that to any situaion - the fact that no one here has found kiddie pr0n in your posts means that you're a paedophile.
Arm chair commanders? So far I've seen posts debating the wiseness of a war - that has nothing to do with being a ommander and all to do with being a conscientous and dutiful *citizen*.
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Cool GScholtz! Gonna check out that link right now. I speak Danish and Swedish fluently and understand one of the variants of the Norwegian language (not the new stuff).
Norwegian terrorists. Hm, Grunherz had something in his signature file about that :D
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Santa, while it may be true that we have a trade imballance in EU's favor, that could change. Piss us off and it's more likely to happen ;) Ever heard the saying "the customer is always right"? :D
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StSanta, this is just opinon so take it with a grain of salt.
But to think that the EU is a stable homogenous "country" is ludicrous. And while they are definitely making steps toward this direction, they are a long long way from it (IMO). At best, its a fragile economic federation.
And for some of the others to assume that Russia itself will roll over, join the EU, and then actually subject themselves to the power of the "European Community" is even a wilder idea.
There is just too much bad history there between the countries especially Germany and France (watch their constant jockeying for power now, it will get worse). And the Brits don't seem too thrilled with the EU in the first place, let alone when push comes to shove.
Yes, I'm not even going to mention all the small countries with ancestral vendettas, and the escalating "balkanization" of parts of Europe. Where every seperate nut job wants his own little ethnically based country.
The developing economic powers of the 21st century is not the EU. Its China and India. The two largest countries in the world, the largest populations, and the fastest growing economies in the world. And they play to win at all costs.
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Ahhh yes...the all powerful EU.... Europes answer to Empire Envy.
Bottom line here is that time will tell....time will tell about Bush and Iraq...time will tell about the EU conquering America...time will tell which one of you turds really talks outta your hiney too:)
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"US vs Europe, you'll notice that the US imports more than it exports to a larger degree than Europe. "
Like i said. You do business with the USA or you don't so business.
Have fun with those arrogant Frenchies and those imperious Germans in your little "EU"............
C.
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It's called economic interdependence. The US is little different than the Europe when it comes to it.
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Originally posted by Eagler
they know 1000x more than they inform the media & you
I agree with what you're saying here but the above statement isn't at all complete...
You should have added the fact that the American people are given missinformation on a regular basis concerning the need, objective and effects of a war against Iraq.
They aren't telling all they know, just what sounds good to strengthen their position...some see through the smoke screen, some don't.
Missinformation abounds in Dubyas administration...not saying it's any different in a Dem. controled Whitehouse mind you.
Seeing Ari Mouthpiece duck and dodge hard questions IS entertaining in a sick kind of way.
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Originally posted by Cabby44
Have fun with those arrogant Frenchies and those imperious Germans in your little "EU"............
"imperious" ... ROTFL And this from a guy who's living in the USA.
Even if we where imperious, nobody would follow our instructions.
But to satisfy ur prejudices heres my instruction for u:
Cabby44 halts maul
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Originally posted by Cabby44
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"US vs Europe, you'll notice that the US imports more than it exports to a larger degree than Europe. "
Like i said. You do business with the USA or you don't so business.
Have fun with those arrogant Frenchies and those imperious Germans in your little "EU"............
C.
As usual the wise old man spoke ....
And as usual none undertand him.
PS : do a simple check for me you look to be sit on you heard cause you look to think with your a...
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USA thinks the French are arrogant only because we are not their squeakes like most of the rest of the word.
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Heh, aye Frenchy.
Verm, all good points. If you lived in Europe I think you'd get a better understandsing of just how pervasive the EU is. It's not a paper monster. There are individual differences, aye, but they're solved democratically. Denmark, a tiny country, has three times voted 'no' to stuff and then had new stuff entered into the contracts. It's doable.
Perhaps there's a lot of hatred between different nationalities in the older generation. In my generation however, that is largely gone. My father and mother might not have a cultural identity as a European but more limited to 'European from a specific country', but I do. And I think most in my generation do.
China and India - sure they're threats. But they're still way behind Europe despite their numbers. Sure they're economies are exploding forwards, but don't count yer eggs til ya crossed the road. The potential is not the actual. A steady economic growth is sustainable, whereas an explosive one is more prone to violent ups and downs.
Heh, US is a distant 22 (http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp) when it comes to foreign aid percentage of GNP. DK is, as it has been the last five years or so, number one :D
PFFFTHH. We're morally more just than you PTTFHH.
:D
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Perhaps there's a lot of hatred between different nationalities in the older generation. In my generation however, that is largely gone.
I definitely agree here. My generation is more culturally aware than ever before - we speak more languages, have more contact with other nationalities, travel Europe more.
The old hatreds will be much diminished in 50 years. It's going to be a long road to further integration - but it needs to be, for stability.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
He was right. It took a soldier 3-6 months in 'country' to learn the skills of combat, then by the time he became proficient, he was close to DEROS.
David, you've already been awarded your Elfenwolf Troll Medal once- sorry, but we can't award it to you again. We can, however, give you a Combat M for Misinformed.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
USA thinks the French are arrogant only because we are not their squeakes like most of the rest of the word.
No, it's because their woman won't shave their armpits:eek:
Sorry, I couldn't help myself:D
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Originally posted by Dowding
I definitely agree here. My generation is more culturally aware than ever before - we speak more languages, have more contact with other nationalities, travel Europe more.
The old hatreds will be much diminished in 50 years. It's going to be a long road to further integration - but it needs to be, for stability.
I doubt it. I think Im a generation younger than you (I'm 28), and lets just say that there's not that much cultural awareness going on from my side :)
Maybe it moves in cycles? After ww2 people became sick of war and they tried to generally be nice and understanding towards others (50s-generation). Then came the hippy generation (60s), and they didnt really care about anything except getting stoned. Then came my generation (70s), and it seems that all we do is care about money...and the generation that came after us (80s)...they are just weird..communists and obscure retro-hippies OR complete slackers growning up thinking that living on welfare is the norm etc.
ANYWAY, my point is that ever since the 60s people have become more egocentric, and for every generation this just seems to be getting worse and worse.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
USA thinks the French are arrogant only because we are not their squeakes like most of the rest of the word.
No we, or at least I and some others, think they are arrogant and hypocrites because of stuff like the following. I leached this from AGW, thanks Cabby....
Imperialist France: Get Out Of Africa
Anti-French Protests Swell Over Ivory Coast Accord
By REUTERS
ABIDJAN, Ivory Coast (Reuters) - Stone-throwing mobs attacked the French Embassy and army base in Ivory Coast Sunday as thousands marched in an explosion of anger over a peace accord they said France had imposed to the advantage of rebels.
The massive protests underlined the problems facing the power-sharing deal agreed by President Laurent Gbagbo in Paris Saturday to end the four-month war that has split the world's top cocoa producer along ethnic lines.
Soldiers from the former colonial power used teargas and riot-control stun grenades to drive demonstrators from their military base in Abidjan and from the French embassy, where marchers started a small fire and damaged the gate.
"They keep on trying to get in and we keep pushing them back,'' said French Lieutenant-Colonel Ange-Antoine Leccia.
From Paris, Gbagbo appealed for calm and defended the accord, saying that he had no choice but to compromise. He promised to return home after a meeting with West African leaders who gave their own nod to the deal.
"When you do not win the war you discuss and compromise. I did not win the war,'' Gbagbo said.
Ivory Coast was plunged into crisis by a coup attempt on September 19. The putsch failed, but ensuing civil war has left hundreds dead, displaced more than one million and split the country of 16 million along ethnic lines.
The nerve of these arrogant French to intervene in another countries' "civil war". And with violence no less. Where's the UN "resolution" authorizing this action??? Who do these racist Europeans think they are??? PEACE NOW!!!
Cabby
So it's ok for France to meddle in other countries affairs but not the US?
The French say they don't want this war with Iraq. Some of them say it's about the US need for oil. Well in actuality they take this stance because they don't want to lose the business contracts they have with this murderous dictators regeim. I find it all to ironic that France teams up with Germany to stop the US from liberating a country from a dictator. What if the US had taken this attitude in 1944? We should have stopped after we helped Brittain and Italy then started doing business with Hitler. :rolleyes:
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and the generation that came after us (80s)...they are just weird..communists and obscure retro-hippies OR complete slackers growning up thinking that living on welfare is the norm etc
You must be the "stereotype" generation.
Welfare is giving the big oil companies command of our military and kids to secure their oil.(about 50 billion)
Help the American farmer, go Biodiesel.
Did you know the first diesel fuel was biodiesel, but oil was more abundant and cheaper, my how times have changed. If you think this isn't about oil, think long and hard when summer comes(vacation time) and they up the price of gas cause they got you by the nads.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You must be the "stereotype" generation.
Welfare is giving the big oil companies command of our military and kids to secure their oil.(about 50 billion)
Help the American farmer, go Biodiesel.
Did you know the first diesel fuel was biodiesel, but oil was more abundant and cheaper, my how times have changed. If you think this isn't about oil, think long and hard when summer comes(vacation time) and they up the price of gas cause they got you by the nads.
Nah, I think we are "the cynical generation" or something like that. The ones who came after us are "the generation that doesnt give a flying f*ck". After them came "the weird generation that skipped history class" (I mean why else would they be drifting back to communism and other failed ideas)
Anyway, maybe the prospects of living on welfare is a bit better in Europe than in the US? I mean we dont have that many big oil companies here anyway, and besides, we dont have that much military either for them to command around.
Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the oil companies will do when oil runs out in 30-40 years or so. Not that I care, but shouldnt they be planning for stuff like that.
And I do wonder what the arabs will do when their only source of income dries up...*sniff* is that...*sniff* *sniff* yes, I think I smell a war coming.
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"You must be the "stereotype" generation.
Welfare is giving the big oil companies command of our military and kids to secure their oil.(about 50 billion)
Help the American farmer, go Biodiesel.
Did you know the first diesel fuel was biodiesel, but oil was more abundant and cheaper, my how times have changed. If you think this isn't about oil, think long and hard when summer comes(vacation time) and they up the price of gas cause they got you by the nads."
LOL!! And you must be the "Dumb-Ass Northeastern Liberal" Generation......
C.
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"when summer comes(vacation time) and they up the price of gas cause they got you by the nads."
OMG what lack of supply/demand understanding.. Please, please for the sake of your inteligence please take a college level macroeconomics course, please. Please... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Udie
No we, or at least I and some others, think they are arrogant and hypocrites because of stuff like the following. I leached this from AGW, thanks Cabby....
So it's ok for France to meddle in other countries affairs but not the US?
The French say they don't want this war with Iraq. Some of them say it's about the US need for oil. Well in actuality they take this stance because they don't want to lose the business contracts they have with this murderous dictators regeim. I find it all to ironic that France teams up with Germany to stop the US from liberating a country from a dictator. What if the US had taken this attitude in 1944? We should have stopped after we helped Brittain and Italy then started doing business with Hitler. :rolleyes:
Sorry Udie but you just showed your (and the journalist too) complete ignorance of the relation between France and her former colonie.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the oil companies will do when oil runs out in 30-40 years or so. Not that I care, but shouldnt they be planning for stuff like that.
hahem ...
What make you think they don't have planned anything yet ?
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I doubt it. I think Im a generation younger than you (I'm 28), and lets just say that there's not that much cultural awareness going on from my side :)
Hortlund, I'm 24 years old. :)
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Originally posted by Eagler
arm chair commanders .. the lot of ya
I'll leave my fate & trust in the hands of the real ones in our military & white house today
they know 1000x more than they inform the media & you
if we fire a single shot, evidence will b given b4 hand which brings everyone together once again
carry on with your useless babble
Would you say the same when Clinton was in the office ?
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Originally posted by I. P. Freely
Yeppers! Better to have them inside the tent peeing outside than outside of the tent peeing inside.
better not go camping with you you filthy scumbucket!!
why dont they piss in a toilet like every other civilised human being??? :p
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think long and hard when summer comes(vacation time) and they up the price of gas cause they got you by the nads.
How much does gas cost up there? $1/gallon?
And you whine about gas prices? Lol.
Try $4+/gallon for starters.