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Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 23, 2003, 08:06:55 AM
between 43 and 1 last night.  Thank gawd for the new fluff model...
lazs
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Shane on January 23, 2003, 08:10:39 AM
why aren't you in the H2H ladder? or is relying on your own self too difficult? oh, yeah, no buffs at all there.

:confused: :cool:

http://www.simladder.com
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 08:16:11 AM
Not true!

I flew a group of 17's over the field. I dropped on 1 FH but missed. Damn LA-7 on my tail made it impossible for me to calibrate correctly.

After I saw there was no chance for a second run, I turned south fighting off a spitfire, and a pair of mustangs en route to the city there.

Fortunately for the ponies, I ran out of ammo and was an easy target. You'd be proud of me Lazs. Out of 15 hours online this tour, I've logged 1 hour in Buffs.

It's simply not worth the effort anymore.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Shane on January 23, 2003, 08:17:54 AM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
You'd be proud of me Lazs. Out of 15 hours online this tour, I've logged 1 hour in Buffs.
It's simply not worth the effort anymore.


what?  out of that mess 'o borg you call MAW you can't get decent escort service?

:eek:
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Apache on January 23, 2003, 08:19:28 AM
muckmaw, don't think lazs meant there weren't any there, only that they were simply "fescue fighters". They were killin' more of the grass than buildings. :)

Shane, an old Buck Owens song comes to mind when I read your post.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Frogm4n on January 23, 2003, 08:23:17 AM
anyone with half a brain(i know cause i can do it) can bomb with 90 percent accuracy.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 08:52:39 AM
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Originally posted by Shane
what?  out of that mess 'o borg you call MAW you can't get decent escort service?

:eek:


I can get the numbers to a bunch of esco....oh wait.

You know what it is? The guys like to fly Jabo runs, and I don't like to impose my idea of fun on them. I mean, for a fighter jock, it can get pretty boring circling a flight of 17's as they climb out for 45 minutes. The to follow them for another 45 mins to target?

I just don't like to ask.

And as for you Frog....

Stop. Alright? You have no idea who I am, my experience with bombing etc.

Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing.

So before you spout off about half a brain, 90% accuracy, take a step back and think about what your saying.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Frogm4n on January 23, 2003, 11:30:43 AM
group of 17's should take out at
LEAST 2 fh's
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 11:34:05 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
group of 17's should take out at
LEAST 2 fh's


Theoretically, yes. But at 30k, flying across the wind, with a bog on your 6, things tend to get a bit dicey.

What's your handle, Frog?

I'd like to take a look at your stats.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: AKIron on January 23, 2003, 11:40:24 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
anyone with half a brain(i know cause i can do it) can bomb with 90 percent accuracy.


What's your AH handle Frogman? I wanna see your stats.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Frogm4n on January 23, 2003, 12:15:31 PM
its frogman, and im a fdb so i spend most of my time trying to bomb my squadmates as they takeoff
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: icemaw on January 23, 2003, 12:15:41 PM
Frogman is a nikki dweeb.  He has 5 time the kills and flights in nik's then I do and he calls me a nik dweeb.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Frogm4n on January 23, 2003, 12:25:39 PM
god i love the niki, bet you havent augered it as much as i have
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Raubvogel on January 23, 2003, 12:27:25 PM
Frogman, you big dweeb! Clean my toejamter!
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 12:37:54 PM
Well, here's the numers I have:

Frog:                              Muck:
Tour      Bomber Rank     Bomber Rank  
36          1558                  622
35           1398                 704
34           793                   128
33           623                    286
32           483                    49
31           413                    34
30           1463                  75


Frog:                             Muck:
Tour          Hit %            Hit %
36             62                342
35             40                102
34             187.5            186
33             168                540
32             52                  207
31             117                217
30             40                  145

Not trying to slam you here, Frog. But you need to check before you post with such a condecending attitude.

Once again, thanks, but I know what I'm doing.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Creamo on January 23, 2003, 12:40:25 PM
And you should, your a Major. Pry have lotsa virtual medals and junk too, jeepers.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: mason22 on January 23, 2003, 12:49:46 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
anyone with half a brain(i know cause i can do it) can bomb with 90 percent accuracy.


let's analyze this:

'anyone' with half a brain....frog included.

'i know cause i can do it'....frogs half brain has succeeded in hitting 2 FH's on one run

'90 percent accuracy'....hitting the "intended" target on any given run doesn't mean squat when compared to AH stats and ranks. out of all bombs dropped in a 3 flight group, if only 6 of them hit, of course the rank will not add up to 90%.

seems to me some have taken frog a little to personal. it's kinda funny. after all, it's just a computer.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Furious on January 23, 2003, 12:49:53 PM
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...Once again, thanks, but I know what I'm doing. [/B]


yeah, you are spending a stupid amount of time climbing to 30k only to fail.

don't get snotty, you're stats aren't helping you.


F.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: icemaw on January 23, 2003, 12:54:05 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
its frogman, and im a fdb so i spend most of my time trying to bomb my squadmates as they takeoff
LMAO froggy I used to love reading the TOD logs to see how many FDBs killed each other. But sniff you guys are not killing each other anymore.

 P.S. just so you know I get most of my kills in blue planes and I cant remember the last time I flew a nik. I have something like a 17 to 1 kill ratio in f4u1 so far this camp. Yes some MAW like to fly niks and we in the squad call them dweebs too lovingly of coarse.
So next time you feel the need to call someone a nik dweeb call them a dweeb and not the whole squad. Beside what do you care it's thier 15 bucks they can fly what they want.
Title: Re: lottsa fun
Post by: icemaw on January 23, 2003, 12:56:58 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
between 43 and 1 last night.  Thank gawd for the new fluff model...
lazs
 Yes Yes lazs that was a blast talk about a furball. Too bad some buffs came over and killed 1 and 43s fuel kinda spoiled it.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 01:04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Furious
yeah, you are spending a stupid amount of time climbing to 30k only to fail.

don't get snotty, you're stats aren't helping you.


F.


Listen, Furious, I'm not going to take an insulting comment like that from someone who is obviously speaking from an uninformed position, as Frog did. He had no knowledge of the conditions under which I was operating, and then comes across with the "Half-Brain" "90%" commment.  I generally hit what I intend to hit. That's what the stats show. He does not hit his targets with anywhere near the accuracy that I do, (Aside from 1of the 6 last tours) therefore, he has no basis to comment on my performance.

Now if someone like Revvin, or a bomber pilot who has garnered my respect over time made that comment, I would simply ask him to help me improve.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 01:09:56 PM
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Originally posted by mason22
let's analyze this:

'anyone' with half a brain....frog included.

'i know cause i can do it'....frogs half brain has succeeded in hitting 2 FH's on one run

'90 percent accuracy'....hitting the "intended" target on any given run doesn't mean squat when compared to AH stats and ranks. out of all bombs dropped in a 3 flight group, if only 6 of them hit, of course the rank will not add up to 90%.

seems to me some have taken frog a little to personal. it's kinda funny. after all, it's just a computer.



Mason:

After re-readin Frogs post a few times, I can see he was not being as malicious as I first though, and therefore reacted to.

I know the FDBs are a fun group of guys, but the changes to the bomber model have been very aggravating to me.

So I am easily angered when it comes to this area. For this I apologize. I am simply annoyed at the fact that my favorite part of Aces HIgh has been effectively taken out of the game. Meanwhile, I'm killing myself (up until this tour) trying to improve my bombing skills, and here comes some guy I've never seen telling me it's easy.

Frog . I flew off the handle.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Creamo on January 23, 2003, 01:15:21 PM
I have respect for Revvin as well. I give him the Valor Medal of Conduct and garner some stuff too.

Salute!

Creamo
Supreme Commander of All Allied Forces, Astronaut, and General of all vox prox Bish Forces
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Moloch on January 23, 2003, 01:17:08 PM
you people are funny.

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LMAO froggy I used to love reading the TOD logs to see how many FDBs killed each other. But sniff you guys are not killing each other anymore.


I'll work on that for ya iceMaw.  But Chute's take priority over fdb's...
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: maxtor on January 23, 2003, 01:40:32 PM
Score in bomber includes lots of stuff the has little to do with how well you can use the bombsight.  The numbers don't mean much anymore, especially since the stuka was added.  

I looked in my old pictures, I had a few screenshots in there from when people were trying to say the "new" bombsight did not compensate for wind.  (These were all 250lbs bomb drops so craters would not overlap so much.)

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=585851)

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=585151)

(I had a shot somewhere of single salvo drops with 250lb eggs, but I can't find it)  Anyway the bombsite works, that is unargueable.  However, how much fun is it to bomb?  Well that is another question all together, most all my "bomber" sorties these days are in supply goons or IL2.

I can level bomb from great altitude, but anymore it is just too little fun for the work/time invested.  To do a proper bomber misison takes 45 minutes to an hour, that is a lot of time you could be doing somethign else ( like sporting around in an M8 sneaking up on tanks).   I think that is why you are seeing so many suicide buffs.  Maybe some just don't know how, but I think many people just don't find it fun to invest the time to fly a "proper" buff mission.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: gofaster on January 23, 2003, 01:57:28 PM
Who's the drunk down at the end of the bar spouting out unsubstantiated criticisms?

Must be an FDB, of course.

You don't really take those guys seriously, do you?
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: myelo on January 23, 2003, 02:01:11 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
You don't really take those guys seriously, do you?


You mean Creamo is not really Supreme Commander of All Allied Forces, Astronaut, and General of all vox prox Bish Forces?
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 23, 2003, 02:17:45 PM
well... yes... eventually someone couldn't help but pork the fields but... it took a very long time and there were a lot of players meeting about half way between fields for a good hour or so... lot's of good fites.

All fites must end... eventually the tide of numbers overpowers one or the other but last nite was very good... just as it seemed a field (mostly ours) would fall or simply become useless and we would have to move on and find somewhere else fun to play... somehow... things would turn around and there would be a fighting chance...

not saying I didn't get vulched once in a while or that the attention starved didn't try to get their licks in .... just that.. we had some good fites for a good long time..

shane... H2H is allmost as boring as boxed sims...   Wow... you mean I gotta keep track of one whole nme con?   All at once?   I can see where it would be a challenge for you tho.
lazs
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 02:38:45 PM
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Originally posted by maxtor

I can level bomb from great altitude, but anymore it is just too little fun for the work/time invested.  To do a proper bomber misison takes 45 minutes to an hour, that is a lot of time you could be doing somethign else ( like sporting around in an M8 sneaking up on tanks).   I think that is why you are seeing so many suicide buffs.  Maybe some just don't know how, but I think many people just don't find it fun to invest the time to fly a "proper" buff mission.


This is the crux of the matter. Its a simple equation of Time invested/reward.

You are correct in that you can have alot more fun in the hour than sitting in the bomber watching your altimeter.

I really don't mind investing the time, but it's absolutley heartbreaking now to spend all that time, only to miss your target.

I think I flew 3 sorties where I missed the Hangars 3 times in a row. That pretty much broke my back when it comes to bombing. (I still cannot figure out how I missed. The damn calibration seemed perfect and there was not the slightest change in heading, alt, or airspeed.)

Regardless, maybe I just don't have the patience anymore. Maybe I'm having too much fun Jaboing.

*Shrugs*
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 23, 2003, 02:55:47 PM
or..... you could forgo building battling altogether and actually fite other players.
lazs
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: muckmaw on January 23, 2003, 03:03:44 PM
Take a look at my time this tour lazs.

With 17 hours online, only 1:43 is in bombers.

I've pretty much converted to the dark side already.

Scary thing is, my favorite ride is the FM2.

Hmmmm...wonder where I picked up that nasty habit.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Shane on January 23, 2003, 04:22:36 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
shane... H2H is allmost as boring as boxed sims...   Wow... you mean I gotta keep track of one whole nme con?   All at once?   I can see where it would be a challenge for you tho.
lazs


lol... suuuurreeee if you say so. all i can say of you is that without a buddy to save your bacon, you're not so hot.

you're the kind who needs the crowd to cover your inadequacies, so i can see why you're at the H2H aspect of the game, be it in the ladder, the DA, or even flying alone in the MA away from the mobs.

now i see why you detest the buffs so, they disperse your safety net and it takes a while to displace and find a new one.

:D
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Central on January 23, 2003, 06:16:24 PM
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Originally posted by icemaw
LMAO froggy I used to love reading the TOD logs to see how many FDBs killed each other. But sniff you guys are not killing each other anymore.


Actually it wont show, cause all you see are a bunch of idjiots looping shooting at each other to see whos the first oneto make it to the tower (killershooter). Kinda hillarious to see this act in the SEA arena :D
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 24, 2003, 09:53:34 AM
shane... I'm not very good at all... mediocre at best.  If it weren't for you I probly wouldn't get any kills at all.   You should stick with killing people that don't see you and then running away.   51's and la7's... good choice for your style.
lazs
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Ripsnort on January 24, 2003, 10:02:46 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
shane... I'm not very good at all... mediocre at best.  If it weren't for you I probly wouldn't get any kills at all.   You should stick with killing people that don't see you and then running away.   51's and la7's... good choice for your style.
lazs


9.5
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Hornet on January 24, 2003, 10:23:48 AM
this is a good thread.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Wlfgng on January 24, 2003, 10:38:59 AM
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shane... I'm not very good at all... mediocre at best. If it weren't for you I probly wouldn't get any kills at all. You should stick with killing people that don't see you and then running away. 51's and la7's... good choice for your style.

8.2
I deducted due to spelling
but gave a few points back with the style comment
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 24, 2003, 11:28:21 AM
someone called 'wlfgang" deducts for spelling?
lazs
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Rude on January 24, 2003, 11:52:11 AM
Stop pickin on Lazs!!!
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 24, 2003, 12:58:58 PM
thank you rude... somethimes I think you are the only one who knows how sensitive I am.   If only I had a nickle for every time I've cried myself to sleep at night over the mean and insensitive things that were said about me on this BB....
lazs
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: popeye on January 24, 2003, 01:34:11 PM
Gosh.....now I feel bad.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Shiva on January 24, 2003, 03:37:20 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
thank you rude... somethimes I think you are the only one who knows how sensitive I am.   If only I had a nickle for every time I've cried myself to sleep at night over the mean and insensitive things that were said about me on this BB....


Eventually you might have a nickel?

:D
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: Rude on January 24, 2003, 04:30:05 PM
No problem Lazs.

I myself am a subject of riddicule and mean spirited jabs. To be be verbally thrashed about only because I'm me is, well, not very nice.

Like Steven Segals wife put it so aptly....

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: SirLoin on January 24, 2003, 04:42:52 PM
Ribbit!
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: J_A_B on January 24, 2003, 04:47:37 PM
Can we at least hate you because you're butt ugly?   :D


J_A_B
Title: lottsa fun
Post by: lazs2 on January 25, 2003, 09:40:51 AM
rude... yu are a little too sensitive... the special olympics ref made you cry.
lazs