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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: swoopy on January 24, 2003, 11:28:20 AM
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Launch and traction control gone yippeee.....
Time for racing properly again
Next just bring back big phat slicks and turbos:D
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Oh yay!
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ya, but not til half the season is over.
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Did you read the part about not allowing in car radios either? Thats a mistake... can you imagine a wreck at a tight circut like Monaco? 10 cars would be caught up in it without a location warning from the pits... are they trying to bring a touch of NASCAR into F1? Please...
OTOH, the outlawing of ABS and TCS is a big plus.
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""can you imagine a wreck at a tight circut like Monaco?""
thats what flagmen are for
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Originally posted by john9001
thats what flagmen are for
Poo head.
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They have radios in NASCAR ... (and passing also) :)
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Originally posted by Makofan
They have radios in NASCAR ... (and passing also) :)
Picture this guy laying on his side - watching a NASCAR race for 3 hours: :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Did you read the part about not allowing in car radios either?
Where are you guys reading this info? Can you hook me up with a link?
I would consider car radios to be a key piece of safety equipment, not to mention key to strategy and execution. I think F1 just took a step back to the '70s. Next thing ya know, they'll be wearing open-faced gold helmets.
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hmm... not sure if takeing radios off from the cars is a good idea :confused:
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I like the idea of eliminating the telemetry, but the radio is a necessary piece of safety equipment. The traction and launch control removal is a good idea, so is the longer-life engine and components.
Good luck to FIA when enforcing the prohibition of "expensive exotic components". I suspect that item will be revised between now and its introduction.
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Radio coms stay.
LONDON, Jan 21 (AFP) - Radical changes to cars in this year's Formula One
championship have been modified following meetings by FIA officials with team
technical directors, motorsport's governing body said in a statement on
Tuesday.
The FIA, who still have to make a final, binding decision, confirmed pit to
car telemetry would be banned with immediate effect.
Other driver aids such as the use of traction control, launch control as
well as fully automatic gearboxes would be banned from the 2003 British Grand
Prix onwards, and not from 2004 as originally stated.
Last week, it was announced teams would be limited to just two cars with no
facility for a spare.
However a third car could be used if a vehicle was damaged beyond repair
according to the statement.
Radio communication between team and driver would still be allowed,
contrary to last week's announcement, provided it was a stand-alone system
which did not transmit other data, would be accessible to FIA and broadcasters
and perhaps even to the paying public.
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Yeah there keeping communication with the driver just not allowing teams to control systems on the car via the pit. Basically its a vast improvement, havin traction control and lauch control really took out the skill of the driver and the excitment. Plus it will cut costs having these so teams like sauber and minardi will be able to survive.
I cant wait to new season starts:D
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F1 has always been about pushing the technology envelope. I think there's a very tough balancing act to be performed by the FIA to retain interest in F1 both as a showcase for automotive technology and as a highly competitive racing series. The two may turn out to be mutually exclusive.
What if the deep pocketed Mercedes, Ferrari, BMW, and Renault were the only companies able to field teams? Would an intense technological battle between just eight cars with elite drivers truely be the worst outcome?
There are plenty of other series where technology is not a determining factor, why create another one?
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Didnt see the relase regarding the inclusion of car/team radios - Im glad to see they are allowing it... I agree with almost everyone that no radio communication would be a serious hazard.
PS: There is talk that Porsche will be making a run at F1 within the next five years. (Guess the Cayanne engine might have a purpose afterall...)
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no spare car!!???!!!
Engines over 2 races????!?!?!
And how is this going to help smaller teams if their crap engines cant even last half a race?
Next they'll mandate all teams have to use the same standard engines - if they want F1 technology to go backward so badly, why dont they just call it Indy car.
Basically its a vast improvement, havin traction control and lauch control really took out the skill of the driver and the excitment. Plus it will cut costs having these so teams like sauber and minardi will be able to survive.
Look how many times Minardi's launch control failed. They should be helping these teams to get these systems fixed, not scrapping the whole thing.
Tronsky
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Bring back CanAm, and Grp B rally.
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It needed these changes. I'd rather take up bee-keeping rather than watch F1, going by last years season.
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Samiam, F1 has lost about 2-4 million viewiers in the last couple of seasons. The public don't want a few cars/drivers. They want diversity and fierce competition.
Now, the one with the most money has a huge advantage. Driver skill is maybe 20% of the equation as it stands (according to (heh) Disovery Channel documentary). I'd like to see it upped to 50%.
I'll start watching F1 again now. Fully automatic gearboxes did it for me - no need to even shift gear?
With traction control gone it'll be more like the game Grand Prix Legends - you REALLY have to be careful with the throttle on breaking and exiting a curve. And then F1 GAMES will be much more fun, too :).
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Not necessarily dissagreing with you StSanta, but exploring a what if...
Agreed, the fans do want more intense competition. But I don't see much in the way of Minardi or Sauber flags waving in the stadiums. I do see an intense sea of Ferrari, BMW, and Mercedes flags, some Jaguar (ahem) and some Renault, some Honda.
So, given this fan base, why attempt to rig rules to throttle spending by those teams with the deep pockets so that the lesser teams that nobody really follows anyway can compete? Why not just unshackle those willing to spend the $$ and increase the competitiveness between those four or five teams willing to spend the money?
If the teams decide that they can no longer justify such astronomical spending, then they - and not Max Mosely or Bernie Eclestone - should reach some agreement on what type of spending limits they will adhere to.
Also, tires have had a significant impact in the differences in car performace over the past couple of years. Simply selecting a single tire manufacturer would go a long way toward leveling the field for the top runners.
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One have my mates goes to some of the historic F1 races and as asked the drivers whats the hardest thing about driving them and they all said getting the power down out of a corner and getting a biting point with the clutch. wiv electronics gon This is gonna have to bring the drivers skill back it.
Seeing the old F1 cars like the six wheeled tyral realy was a sight, and sound. :D
Oh F1 isnt like nascar, if theres a crash there are marshals to tell the drivers there theres been an accident, u dont need radios to tell the drivers theres one, marshals do it for em.