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Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Black Sheep on January 26, 2003, 04:02:54 PM

This is very interesting - 500ft. wingspan (over 1 acre total) 1.5 million lbs. payload - this is an artist rendition - kinda reminds me of a Klingon Bird of Prey :)

I'd like to see this bird in action

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Fridaddy on January 26, 2003, 07:13:00 PM

http://foxxaero.homestead.com/indrad_043.html

14000 ton payload?!?

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: udet on January 26, 2003, 07:32:27 PM

wow

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Nomde on January 26, 2003, 07:32:36 PM

Just finished reading the article in Popular Science about that puppy a couple days ago, big isn't she :)

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: udet on January 26, 2003, 07:43:33 PM

it's 1,400 tonnes- about 3,000,000lbs i think

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Makarov9 on January 27, 2003, 12:33:10 AM

It looks like somthing from that old TV show the "Thunderbirds." :)

http://www.techtv.com/thunderbirds/ (http://www.techtv.com/thunderbirds/)

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: gofaster on January 27, 2003, 08:52:14 AM

Visions of the Spruce Goose that Howard Hughes built.

It flew once, maybe twice, but only on trials runs and is generally regarded as being a triumph of engineering but a failure as a commercial aircraft.

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Ripsnort on January 27, 2003, 09:03:11 AM

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=67244&referrerid=3203

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Wlfgng on January 27, 2003, 10:35:02 AM

ah.. wondered if anyone would note the similarity to the russian built one.. years ago

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Frogm4n on January 27, 2003, 01:19:37 PM

looks like it use's that aircushion that is created by being so close to the water like a real pelican would use. of course that means it will never fly above sealevel and will end up being a nice thought because the cost of moving cargo that way will still be much higher then by ship.... now cheap transatlantic and transpacific flights is another matter.

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: sling322 on January 27, 2003, 01:40:11 PM

Too bad another 12000 Ripsnort posts will keep it from becoming reality.

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Frogm4n on January 27, 2003, 01:55:06 PM

ace's high 2: home of the uber board trolls

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: vorticon on January 27, 2003, 02:24:25 PM

wow thats a bloody big bird

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: maxtor on January 27, 2003, 02:47:31 PM

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
looks like it use's that aircushion that is created by being so close to the water like a real pelican would use. of course that means it will never fly above sealevel and will end up being a nice thought because the cost of moving cargo that way will still be much higher then by ship.... now cheap transatlantic and transpacific flights is another matter.

"The Pelican, as currently envisioned, will be capable of flying at the same speed and height—300 mph, up to 20,000 feet—as most other airplanes powered by turboprops (jet engines geared to propellers, which, at Pelican's speed, are more efficient than standard jet engines). The difference is that it will cover significantly greater ranges while hugging the water's surface and taking advantage of the ground effect. "

(http://www.popsci.com/popsci/images/space/space0203monster_A4_273.gif)


"HOW IT WORKS
The wing-in-ground effect prevents the wing from creating lift-robbing vortexes—since at extremely low altitude there's no room for them to form—and generates a cushion of air beneath the aircraft. The effect is stronger the closer the craft gets to the surface of the water. The Pelican would routinely operate at only 20 to 50 feet, altitudes at which it would burn half as much fuel as an airplane at high altitude"

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: vorticon on January 27, 2003, 02:50:10 PM

once again...WOW THATS ONE BLOODY BIG BIRD

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: maxtor on January 27, 2003, 02:53:14 PM

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Originally posted by vorticon
once again...WOW THATS ONE BLOODY BIG BIRD

yeah it is (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/images/space/space0203monster_A2_538.gif)

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Frogm4n on January 27, 2003, 03:39:47 PM

it wont be built, last i heard boeing was trying to make money not lose even more.

Title: Boeing Pelican
Post by: Heater on January 27, 2003, 04:31:09 PM

There two types of planes ,
Fighters and Targets, that is definitely a target :D