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Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: OIO on January 28, 2003, 06:14:30 PM

because there is no mention of a new P-38!!


Its bad luck to make a game without a new P-38 hitech!

(it gets you no craggenmore!!! :D ;) )

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: Dessy on January 31, 2003, 12:39:54 PM

I completely agree. This is my only chief concern :p

Title: No new 38's
Post by: badRefit on January 31, 2003, 01:14:03 PM

What I'd like is a P38 that appear to have the  sped of the real thing.  it's kind of strange to have one engine shot out, yet do over 200kph, but barely break 300 in level flight with two good ones.

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: J_A_B on January 31, 2003, 02:20:58 PM

You realize that the P-38 only reaches its top speed at like 27,000 feet, right?

J_A_B

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: Odee on January 31, 2003, 02:26:48 PM

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Originally posted by J_A_B
You realize that the P-38 only reaches its top speed at like 27,000 feet, right?

J_A_B

Depends on the theater JAB.  I think ETO it did quite well from 15k down to the deck.  While in the PTO it was the opposite.

But I have been wrong before, so...;)

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: Skuzzy on January 31, 2003, 02:36:56 PM

Here (http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/models/p38l.html) is our in-game performance and I think we hit the numbers pretty close on this model of the P-38:

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on February 01, 2003, 06:30:11 PM

It flys like a dream :)

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: Puck on February 02, 2003, 09:13:11 PM

According to my (infinatly) definitive P38 book (Warren M. Bodie, ISBN 0-9629359-5-6) the numbers with WEP for the P-38J-10-L0 (AC42-67896) which was tested in Dec 10, 1943 are:

MAX SL speed: 345
MAX crit alt speed: 421.5 @ 25,800
Rate of Climb (SL): 4,000 fpm
Rate of Climb (crit alt): 2,900 fpm @ 23,400
Time to crit alt: 6.19 min (23,400)
Service Ceiling: 40,000

I don't see anything wrong with HTC's data.

Title: Re: No new 38's
Post by: akak on February 03, 2003, 12:30:26 AM

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Originally posted by badRefit
What I'd like is a P38 that appear to have the  sped of the real thing.  it's kind of strange to have one engine shot out, yet do over 200kph, but barely break 300 in level flight with two good ones.

Here's a World War II P-38 training film and play close attention to the speed capable with only one engine in the P-38.  I'd say that HiTech and crew got it pretty close in AH.



Flight Characteristics of the P-38 - Training Film (http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/P38.html)


Ack-Ack

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: OIO on February 03, 2003, 08:12:37 AM

Puck, the J was faster than the L .

HTC got the 38 just about right.. just need both of them damn flaps fixed :D

And stop hijacking my thread dangit! This is supposed to be a  "I WANT A NEW P38 IN AH2" whine ;)

Title: I predict AH2 will be a total failure...
Post by: MRPLUTO on February 03, 2003, 09:36:52 AM

The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Military Aircraft says that the L had even more powerful engines than the J.  The L and J were produced in larger numbers than any onther models (3,923 & 2,970 respectively), but since they seem rather similar, wouldn't it be better to have the P-38F, which was "the first to be used on a large scale; it was develoyed in large numbers in Europe towards the middle of 1942 and in North Africa in November."  We need more early war aircraft and the F might be a good candidate.

MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33