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Post by: brady on January 29, 2003, 06:51:15 AM
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Post by: -tronski- on January 29, 2003, 07:16:30 AM
Jap I-15/B1?

 Tronsky
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Post by: vatiAH on January 29, 2003, 09:01:40 AM
French Crusier submarine Surcouf
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Post by: hazed- on January 29, 2003, 01:13:16 PM
Looks like the british sub a bit but i dont think it is. The bristish one sank in the channel with all hands due to a collision with a destroyer on exercises.I cant remember the name unfortunately.
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Post by: maxtor on January 29, 2003, 02:05:07 PM
(http://submarine.id.ru/model3/subs020.jpg)

and I see someone already pegged this one.  Those are 2 8" guns in a waterproof turret

(http://uboat.net/allies/ships/images/french_sub_surcouf.jpg)

http://uboat.net/allies/ships/french.htm

(http://www.uboatart.com/334web.gif)

http://www.uboatart.com/surcouf.html
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Post by: udet on January 29, 2003, 04:50:24 PM
French Submarine Cruiser Surcouf, the one that carried the seaplane in Brady's previous post.
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Post by: brady on January 29, 2003, 06:55:35 PM
Surcouf, it is:)

    And WTG Udet, you got the conection to the previous post.:)
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Post by: MiloMorai on January 29, 2003, 08:09:05 PM
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Originally posted by hazed-
Looks like the british sub a bit but i dont think it is. The bristish one sank in the channel with all hands due to a collision with a destroyer on exercises.I cant remember the name unfortunately.


It was the M-1 and it collided with a steamer.

from http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/archaeology/marine_wreck6.shtml

"The mystery of the M1

The M1 was the pride of the British Navy. She was Britain's most advanced submarine, a 100 metres long and weighed 2,000 tons. It was fitted with it's own massive artillery gun that could hit targets that were 20 miles away, a reminder to the world that Britain still ruled the waves.

However, in 1925, she went missing on a routine mission in the English Channel and the crew of 69 men were lost. Able Seaman Sales went ashore, just hours before she sailed, as he had just learned that his mother had died. He was the only 'survivor' of the M1 crew. In the Board of Inquiry that followed the disappearance, it was believed that the SS Vidar had been involved in a collision with the sub. There was unexplained damage to the bow of the ship and fragments of naval issue paint were also found there. However, the exact cause and location remained a mystery.

t is a mystery which has fascinated former Navy diver, Richard Larn. He has spent the last 15 years of his life searching for the wreck. It wasn't an easy task for there are more shipwrecks per square mile in the English Channel than anywhere else in the world. Last year, he finally pinpointed the M1 thanks to a sonar fish which bounces signals off the seabed. The M1 lay at a depth of more than 70 metres which is out of reach of most divers. Consequently, the diving team had to use a mixture of gases to survive the extreme pressures at this depth. They confirmed that the wreck was the M1 thanks to the distinctive footholes in the conning tower.
The investigation of the divers and, then later, a remote submersible, found that the gun had been ripped off the sub in the collision with the Vidar. The weight of the gun, hanging over the side of the sub, destabilised it and the sub went down to the seabed in freefall. The control areas of the sub were flooded which meant that the crew couldn't lift the sub off the seafloor. The great depth meant that there was no possibility of escape.

The M1 is an official War Grave and protected by the 'Military Remains Act' 1986. Divers may not enter such wrecks or, in any way, disturb them. "