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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: weazel on January 30, 2003, 07:39:57 PM
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WE MUST GET THAT EVIL-DOER SADDAM RIGHT NOW! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2711645.stm)
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One word: decaf.
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Actually, I don't really think this is much of a surprize. Radioactive isotopes wrapped around tnt = a dirty bomb. Just depends on how radioactive the matierial is and how big the bomb is. There is radioactive matierial available all over the world, perhaps OBL can get it from Saddam Hussain too...
BTW Weazel, we've already been over that stuff about changing priorities... and OBL :)
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I have a dirty bomb in my hamper.
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9/11....3,000 dead, OBL still on the loose is a non-priority to chimpy.
Saddam, effectively contained for 12 years...no evidence of complicity in the 9/11 attacks, no evidence he has "massive piles" of WMD yet he's the priority?
Give me a break.
Originally posted by Gunthr
BTW Weazel, we've already been over that stuff about changing priorities... and OBL :)
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Originally posted by weazel
9/11....3,000 dead, OBL still on the loose is a non-priority to chimpy.
Saddam, effectively contained for 12 years...no evidence of complicity in the 9/11 attacks, no evidence he has "massive piles" of WMD yet he's the priority?
Give me a break.
Holding aside the kindergarten "chimpy" taunts and links to stories on http://www.bushishitler.com - what exactly IS your problem with his policy?
Of all the threads youve started, which are anti-US as far as Im concerned, like a typical "protester" you dont explain A.) What your problem ACTUALLY is - other than "Im an angry attention potato" and B.) What you would do differently.
Perhaps people would take you a little more seriously if you had a perspective aside from "Bush is wrong and I live in neo-nazi America - coservatives are stooopid."
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I'd like to see you're proof that OBL still breaths. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Of all the threads youve started, which are anti-US as far as Im concerned, like a typical "protester" you dont explain A.) What your problem ACTUALLY is - other than "Im an angry attention potato" and B.) What you would do differently.
I can't think of anything more American than protesting or criticizing the government and/or the president. We've been doing it for hundreds of years now.
I'm glad weazel posts the things he does here even if I disagree with much of it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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weazel... still being cowardly. Get a backbone, post your own ideas.
MiniD
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Don't worry Udie - OBL is still alive and kicking. The tape that mentioned the Bali bombings is proof of that.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I can't think of anything more American than protesting or criticizing the government and/or the president. We've been doing it for hundreds of years now.
roger on that, but....
I'm glad weazel posts the things he does here even if I disagree with much of it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
I value your posts Todd and surely you can tell a difference between a valuable protest/critique/ dissent/disagreement and a stupid party line "cut and paste" gunk. Weazel is not a thinker.
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Originally posted by Mini D
weazel... still being cowardly. Get a backbone, post your own ideas.
MiniD
LOL :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by mietla
roger on that, but....
I value your posts Todd and surely you can tell a difference between a valuable protest/critique/ dissent/disagreement and a stupid party line "cut and paste" gunk. Weazel is not a thinker.
And what party does weazel support? If you're guessing the Democratic, then guess again. (At least that's my guess)
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I think Weazel IS Osama Bin Laden.
It all makes sence if you think about it.
In the strikes against the Tora Bora complex, a USAF bomb must have sealed off the cave where Osama..eh Weazel was hiding. But they have food and water for several years, a good supply of air, and (unfortunately for us) a power source (presumably they hotwired a dirty bomb and made a mini-nuclear powerplant) a computer and an internet connection.
Now, unable to continue his jihad in person, Osama..er weazel has decided to take the fight to the bulletin boards of the world where he uses several aliases to fight against the forces of democracy.
I mean if you think about it, every BB has its own loon fighting his own private jihad against the US...thats just Osama under a different name.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
I think Weazel IS Osama Bin Laden.
It all makes sence if you think about it.
In the strikes against the Tora Bora complex, a USAF bomb must have sealed off the cave where Osama..eh Weazel was hiding. But they have food and water for several years, a good supply of air, and (unfortunately for us) a power source (presumably they hotwired a dirty bomb and made a mini-nuclear powerplant) a computer and an internet connection.
Now, unable to continue his jihad in person, Osama..er weazel has decided to take the fight to the bulletin boards of the world where he uses several aliases to fight against the forces of democracy.
I mean if you think about it, every BB has its own loon fighting his own private jihad against the US...thats just Osama under a different name.
LOL, funny stuff there. :)
BTW, what are you smoking? :D
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OT:
diddly I hate the rolleye icon. Its so moronic.
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Originally posted by Animal
OT:
diddly I hate the rolleye icon. Its so moronic.
(http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/icon22.gif):rolleyes: (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/icon22.gif):rolleyes: (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/icon22.gif):rolleyes: (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/icon22.gif):rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I can't think of anything more American than protesting or criticizing the government and/or the president. We've been doing it for hundreds of years now.
I'm glad weazel posts the things he does here even if I disagree with much of it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Indeed - however perhaps I was a bit quick to label him a "protester." Maybe a more apt term would be "trouble maker." People like this you really cant satisfy... when the Dem's take back the White House, you can bet he'll be here posting anti-Democrat garbage... People like this you can never satisfy because youre not even sure WHAT they are protesting - thats not American, thats rediculous.
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WJC appreciates your support.
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Hortlund, your incompetence is compounded by uninformed bias, by the grip of partisan tunnel vision that is so much a part of your nature that it distorts everything you post...it disables you from finding the truth without your even knowing it.
Parasite.
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Udie...take your meds and call back on Tuesday.
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Saurdaukar
BWAHAHAHA. Keep trying, one of these days you might even make sense.
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Mietla, when I want your opinion I'll just go to GOP HQ and read it on their website, no need to repost it here. :D
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OT,
Ripsnort, I hate $100 bills ... they are sooooo moronic!
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dmf... I read anyones posts. weazel does not post tho.. he merely dredges up the bizzareness of the far left corners of the internet. Places sane people get a dirty feeling visiting. He is simply cutting and pasting the hate.
I feel we should all protest government intervention in our lives.
lazs
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Originally posted by midnight Target
OT,
Ripsnort, I hate $100 bills ... they are sooooo moronic!
I prefer $1000 bills, flash a couple those around, people are treating you like Ronald Reagan. :D
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Originally posted by weazel
Saurdaukar
BWAHAHAHA. Keep trying, one of these days you might even make sense.
What part of my post, exactly, did you not understand?
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OT - wow - I passed 1,000 posts and didnt eaven realize it - I officially have too much time on my hands at work - where's my fluff'n party?
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I'm certain we have given up on finding OBL....you can relax now weazel...your pal is safe and sound.
Just a note of encouragement for yas....won't be long until we move into Iraq and either kill, capture or drive out Saddam...just think of all the cool stuff you'll be able to toss our way when that takes place!
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Originally posted by Animal
OT:
diddly I hate the rolleye icon. Its so moronic.
You think you hate it now, wait'll you have kids. :rolleyes:
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I gotta say...
1. Weazel is usually over the top, and I rarely agree with his vitriolic rhetoric.
2. He is no less patriotic, in fact he may be more patriotic than most of us on this BBS.
So flame away at him about his politics all you want, but questioning his loyalty to our Country is just going a little too far.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I gotta say...
1. Weazel is usually over the top, and I rarely agree with his vitriolic rhetoric.
2. He is no less patriotic, in fact he may be more patriotic than most of us on this BBS.
So flame away at him about his politics all you want, but questioning his loyalty to our Country is just going a little too far.
Fail to see it MT. Being staunchly opposed to everything doesn't make you patriotic. According to the American Heritage dictionary: Patriotism - Love and devotion to one's country. This requires more than just vehemence and ridicule towards the elected leader of one's country.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Fail to see it MT. Being staunchly opposed to everything doesn't make you patriotic. According to the American Heritage dictionary: Patriotism - Love and devotion to one's country. This requires more than just vehemence and ridicule towards the elected leader of one's country.
Iron - Said exactly what I was trying to convey.
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Weasel, I don't ever recall the President ever saying that capturing Bin Laden was ever even a priority. As a matter of fact, the finger wasn't definitely pointed at Bin Laden until several days after 9/11. BUT, I do recall the President saying that capturing Bin Laden was not one of the objectives of Operation Anaconda. He said it would be nice, but the purpose of US operations in Afghanistan was the destruction of an infrastructure that supported terrorism.
Let me also remind you that it's not the responsibility of the UN weapons inspectors to FIND weapons. According to the text of UN resolution 1441, Iraq is supposed to show that they destroyed the weapons and the inspectors will confirm that process. The fact that there are none to be found is no evidence when it was known to the world that these stockpiles existed in 1993.
Your words are wholly based on a whimsical imagination at the best. If you're going to make a case against the President, please make one that has some facts behind it.
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i love the calculated charachter asasinations these guys come up with .
cant beat weasel in an argument so lable him a trator and all agree.
can you guys ever come up with somthing original at lease sheesh.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Fail to see it MT. Being staunchly opposed to everything doesn't make you patriotic. According to the American Heritage dictionary: Patriotism - Love and devotion to one's country. This requires more than just vehemence and ridicule towards the elected leader of one's country.
Patriotism is expressed in different ways, but what weazel does is not the opposite of patriotic. That is the point. You may be able to argue levels of patriotism, but he has done nothing to suggest that he doesn't love his Country.
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All this love reminds me of an old Troggs tune.
Love is all around:
PS I support the right to hate :)
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I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes.
Well love is all around me, and so the feeling grows.
Itīs written on the wind, itīs everywhere I go.
So if you really love me, come on and let it show.
You know I love you, I always will.
My mind's made up by the way that I feel,
thereīs no beginning, thereīll be no end
cause on my love you can depend.
I see your face before me as I lay on my bed
I kinda get to thinking, of all the things you said.
You gave your promise to me, and I gave mine to you.
I need someone beside me in everything I do.
You know I love you...........(etc)
Itīs written on the wind..........(etc)
come on and let it show
come on and let it show
come on and let it show
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Patriotism is expressed in different ways, but what weazel does is not the opposite of patriotic. That is the point. You may be able to argue levels of patriotism, but he has done nothing to suggest that he doesn't love his Country.
I didn't say he doesn't. I can only tell that he hates our leader and probably at least half our citizens. You however, suggested he might be the most patriotic one here. I still don't see it.
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Originally posted by weazel
Hortlund, your incompetence is compounded by uninformed bias, by the grip of partisan tunnel vision that is so much a part of your nature that it distorts everything you post...it disables you from finding the truth without your even knowing it.
Parasite.
*looks feverishly around for a dictionary*
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Perhaps weazel has a love for our Constitution and our Bill of Rights that benefits a vast majojority of our citizenry, Democrat, Republican, etc., which in turn benefits our country. I'd definitely classify weazel as an American patriot.
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THE FOLLOWING ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. THEY ARE NOT TO SAY OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS LIKE HITLER, STALIN, ETC.
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For the Germans that opposed Hitler unpatriotic?
For the Soviets that opposed Stalin unpatriotic?
For the Kampucheans that opposed the Khmer Rouge unpatriotic?
For the Americans that opposed Nixon during Watergate unpatriotic?
(I'll stop here as this list can get quite long)
One man's "traitor" is another man's "patriot."
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You don't like his using "chimpy" in describing our current president (personally I kinda cringe at unfavorable nicknames for our leaders), but "slick Willie" was okay for WJC? Hypocritical, no?
Don't like the points/statements he makes? Then refute them with your own facts. Sorry, but changing the arguement to petty namecalling without refuting the points/statements is kinda embarrasing. For but a small example: Did our current President go AWOL/desert his post for roughly 12 months or did he not? Did Cheney get 5 deferments to avoid going to Vietnam or did he not?
It is funny that the ones most bothered by weazel's posts and style have used a similar attacking/labeling style. Main difference is that weazel's posts/arguements DO NOT revolve around party affiliation. In my book that's an important distinction.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
I think Weazel IS Osama Bin Laden.
It all makes sence if you think about it.
Come to think of it, has anyone seen weazel and OBL together, ever?? OMG!;)
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Like I said Subaro, being opposed to something/everything does not make one patriotic. You must be for something to claim that honor. I guess this is something that some will just never understand.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Like I said Subaro, being opposed to something/everything does not make one patriotic. You must be for something to claim that honor. I guess this is something that some will just never understand.
Subaro does have a point - the fact that one can be opposed to a leader and not the nation - but by the same token I think he is giving too much credit to Weazel. Weazel hasnt shown any love for his nation or its leader - hell - we dont even know what he does love, and as a result, how can he possibily dislike anything with any credibility?
I can go around saying everything is wrong with the world too - but what does that make me? Worthless - unless I present a solution. If Weazel feels this strongly about Bush - why isnt he writing letters addressed to "Chimpy" instead of posting on the BBS?
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If Weazel feels this strongly about Bush - why isnt he writing letters addressed to "Chimpy" instead of posting on the BBS?
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Lazs you should stick to topics about guns, furballing, and cars.
I also find it ironic that someone who drives a Chevy could question anyone about originality.
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As for all the crying because I use the same slimey tactics that "conservatives" use against anyone who doesn't toe the party line...get over it.
I'm doing nothing different than the toad Newt Gingrich, Ann Coulter, and all the other "conservative" pundits use....kinda sucks to be on the receiving end of it doesn't it?
The "conservative" culture is characterized by corrosive partisanship, visceral hatreds, and unfathomable hypocrisy....and I enjoy rubbing your noses in it.
Get used to it. :eek:
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Originally posted by weazel
The "conservative" culture is characterized by corrosive ....and I enjoy rubbing your noses in it.
Well, to tell you the truth Weazel, whatever the "culture" is your subscribing to, it seems to hold alot of partisanship, visceral hatreds, and unfathomable hypocrisy too.
Maybe a look in the mirror now and then might be a good idea?
And if you really are laughing out loud when you type then you are insane...I hate to have to be the one to tell you that, but you really give the impression of a lunatic sitting in front of his computer laughing like a moron at his own posts...
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(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/weazel_bait.gif)
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"I'm doing nothing different than the toad Newt Gingrich, Ann Coulter, and all the other "conservative" pundits use....kinda sucks to be on the receiving end of it doesn't it?
The "conservative" culture is characterized by corrosive partisanship, visceral hatreds, and unfathomable hypocrisy....and I enjoy rubbing your noses in it."
Man, talk about hate speach...none of what just spewed outta yer keyboard is even close to th truth. You seem to be a truly miserable person, carrying all that animosity around.
Eat some Bluebell icecream and mellow out.
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Originally posted by slimm50
Man, talk about hate speach...none of what just spewed outta yer keyboard is even close to th truth.
You're probably right - weazel is a nice guy compared to some of the people he mentioned. At least you won't see him wishing terrorist attacks on his ideological opponents.
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Originally posted by Erlkonig
You're probably right - weazel is a nice guy compared to some of the people he mentioned. At least you won't see him wishing terrorist attacks on his ideological opponents.
no but that is only because he wants to kill them himself.
(And you should grow up btw)
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Originally posted by Dowding
Don't worry Udie - OBL is still alive and kicking. The tape that mentioned the Bali bombings is proof of that.
The CIA says its authentic, The Swiss said it wasnt.
He was a KNOWN video tape fan yet I have not seen one in over a year.
He may very well be alive... But he may be dead also.
Personaly I dont think he has the paitence to stay off of the tube this long.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Subaro does have a point - the fact that one can be opposed to a leader and not the nation
I agree Saurdaukar. However, and I don't read these threads ALL the time, I don't recall reading what Weazel stands for, only against. And I only spoke up when MT suggested that Weazel might be the most patriotic one here. I doubt MT would have offered the same opinion of someone so anti-liberal.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
no but that is only because he wants to kill them himself.
(And you should grow up btw)
I am not so sure of that. But I am amused that you would tell me to grow up. Do you want to tell me again how you went about choosing interns at your workplace?
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Originally posted by AKIron
I agree Saurdaukar. However, and I don't read these threads ALL the time, I don't recall reading what Weazel stands for, only against. And I only spoke up when MT suggested that Weazel might be the most patriotic one here. I doubt MT would have offered the same opinion of someone so anti-liberal.
Sure I would.
I think Toad is very patriotic. I think Lazs is pretty patriotic. Rude is too. So are you, from what I've seen posted here Iron.
I don't believe you read what I actually wrote. My post was in response to this:
I think Weazel IS Osama Bin Laden. (yea I know it was a joke)
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....you can relax now weazel...your pal is safe and sound. (speaking of OBL)
my post was this:
1. Weazel is usually over the top, and I rarely agree with his vitriolic rhetoric.
2. He is no less patriotic, in fact he may be more patriotic than most of us on this BBS.
After which I agreed that his level of patriotism could be argued here:
Patriotism is expressed in different ways, but what weazel does is not the opposite of patriotic. That is the point. You may be able to argue levels of patriotism, but he has done nothing to suggest that he doesn't love his Country.
So what exactly was your point?
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When have I ever talked about killing anyone?
You've been reading the trailer-trash queens book too much hortlund.
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Aye, all weazels posts are really parodies - sarcasm taken to its extreme.
I was here during the Clinton years. I saw the exact same style posts then. Only then it was Republicans doing it, and there was much 'me 2'ing.
And he is right - his hate speech is not different from Ann Coulters. She hates a lot and offers solutions like 'shoot them all' or somesuch. It's amusing, but hard to take seriously.
If one filters off the obvious taunts and get to the points, one will find that below what now is characterized as filth (but wasn't during the Clinton administration) he has got points. And those aren't adressed. The American way of just ignoring stuff one cannot answer is quite effective - doesn't work here in DK but it's very effective here. Used it myself from time to time - pick and choose what part of the argument you want to address - usually the one you have a good answer for :).
See Toad/Rip. I AIN'T a republican :D.
Seriously though. If one takes a step back and compares weazels posts to those made during Clinton administration and the general anti-democrat posts, one will see striking similarities. It's fun to be the attacker, not the victim. Many of weazels arguments are easily refuted and just ignorant vitriol there to incite and annoy. Still, he has some good points in the middle of it. On the other extreme we have Cabby44 - same thing there. i find myself a little shocked sometimes and often laughing at his comments - and there usually is a good point somewhere in there too.
We must not be blinded by our political preferences or the messenger. Instead, I think it is better to address each point individually and independent of the messenger where his or her credibility isn't needed because there is other corroborating evidence.
Objectivity. That's what we need.
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There are two kinds of Americans, those who wave the flag and those who think for themselves.
It's like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time, not easy for some....impossible for others, especially hard for the fools/tools who have been indoctrinated into and deceived by what is commonly referred to as "conservative" politics.
Waving the flag is far easier than thinking, this is the main dynamic the Republican Party has used to become the majority rather than the minority in our government.
Even now, after arguably the worst national crisis in our history there's no denying that so called "conservatives" are unwilling to suspend their dedication to a zealously intolerant, hate filled, religeous-based ideology and acknowledge the direction Bush is taking the world is a potential disaster...
(http://www.lp.org/images/liberty.gif)
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Even now, after arguably the worst national crisis in our history there's no denying that so called "conservatives" are unwilling to suspend their dedication to a zealously intolerant, hate filled, religeous-based ideology and acknowledge the direction Bush is taking the world is a potential disaster...
I thought Liberals were supposed to be tolerant of other people's views and beliefs? Now Weazle posts that anyone that identifies as conservative, religeous, idealogical must acknowledge that thier beliefs are somehow wrong ( as judged by weazle himself) and are leading to potential disaster.
So much for weazle's liberal logic.
Weazle, can you point out a few examples of conservative's intolerent, hate-filled views? Maybe list a few things Bush has said or done that identify him as "hate-filled and or "intolerant"
Seems to me that weazle is the one that is hate filled and intolerant.
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Ever hear of the Arkansas Project Nuke?
You won't find a better example of the right-wings hatred and intolerance.
Until you stuff some knowledge into your pointy little head your not worth bothering with.
As far as your liberal comments go, you wouldn't know one if it bit you on the ass.
In regards to your pathetic attempt to paint me with the hate brush, there's a big difference between candor and hatred...not that you've demonstrated the intelligence to discern the difference in your posts.
Bush is just the white-head on the zit labeled as "conservatism".
Originally posted by NUKE
I thought Liberals were supposed to be tolerant of other people's views and beliefs? Now Weazle posts that anyone that identifies as conservative, religeous, idealogical must acknowledge that thier beliefs are somehow wrong ( as judged by weazle himself) and are leading to potential disaster.
So much for weazle's liberal logic.
Weazle, can you point out a few examples of conservative's intolerent, hate-filled views? Maybe list a few things Bush has said or done that identify him as "hate-filled and or "intolerant"
Seems to me that weazle is the one that is hate filled and intolerant.
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Originally posted by weazel
There are two kinds of Americans, those who wave the flag and those who think for themselves.
Are you certain you fall in either of these categories? This thread begins with you misquoting the President. I doubt you made that graphic yourself, or the other one with the swastika on it. Looks like you're letting somebody else do the thinking for you.
If you're going to make an intelligent arguement, please let us know what you would rather see and why.
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Where do I "misquote" the pResident?
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Already said....
Originally posted by Preon1
Weasel, I don't ever recall the President ever saying that capturing Bin Laden was ever even a priority. As a matter of fact, the finger wasn't definitely pointed at Bin Laden until several days after 9/11. BUT, I do recall the President saying that capturing Bin Laden was not one of the objectives of Operation Anaconda. He said it would be nice, but the purpose of US operations in Afghanistan was the destruction of an infrastructure that supported terrorism.
Let me also remind you that it's not the responsibility of the UN weapons inspectors to FIND weapons. According to the text of UN resolution 1441, Iraq is supposed to show that they destroyed the weapons and the inspectors will confirm that process. The fact that there are none to be found is no evidence when it was known to the world that these stockpiles existed in 1993.
Your words are wholly based on a whimsical imagination at the best. If you're going to make a case against the President, please make one that has some facts behind it.
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I was really bored this evening so I read through this whole thread and saw an amazing amount of name calling and drivel being thrown about. I think that Weazel's ideas are warped, but his ideas while maybe a copy of other peoples ideas, are just that his ideas, and he has a right to have them.
I have my own ideas too.
I do not believe in abortion (that may change if my wife was to be impregnated by a rapist.)
Definitely for the death penalty.
I know that less taxation on the rich will increase their spending there by boosting the economy, and increasing tax income.
I believe the world will be a better place without Sadaam Hussein.
I think that terrorism should be hunted down to the last person.
I feel that big government is a problem and a major cause of most of our defecit.
Reagonomics worked.
I know that I am safe provided the 2nd Ammendment is around.
The 1st Ammendment while troublesome at times, is the best way for our society.
Government social spending is out of control and needs to be curbed. Most welfare recipients should be limited to 1 year to PROVE they are working to better themselves before more aid is alotted.
I believe in one nation under God. God can be whomever you choose. I happen to know that salvation comes through Jesus Christ, figure it out for yourselves.
These are just a few of my beliefs, the key of it is they change from time to time. An example as such being my past desires to see us goto war easier. My experiences since have dictated that I do not wish to send someone into that haelstrom of hell in my stead. I also believe that the best awesome is a great defense.
Lay off Weazel, they are his ideas. He has a right to them. If you do not agree, pray he changes his ideas, maybe provide him with something to do such. Just do not call him names, it just lowers you to the school yard mentality.
If you want to call me a conservative, go ahead, I could care less, it is just words, but remeber, I too have a right to defend my beliefs as well.
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I was here during the Clinton years. I saw the exact same style posts then. Only then it was Republicans doing it, and there was much 'me 2'ing.
Ain't that the truth. :D
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You really should pay more attention to what the pResident says preon.
For your amusement and future reference, here's what Bush has said about bin Laden at various points in time, depending on how he was trying to spin things:
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
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"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
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"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a country.
Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden.
But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening.
He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, attempting to speak coherently to the Press Travel Pool, The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on the official White House site.
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"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority.
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, waffling to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02
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Your words are wholly based on a whimsical imagination at the best. If you're going to make a case against the President, please make one that has some facts behind it.
Those are the pResidents exact words and dates he spewed them.
I guess we should all excuse his short attention span and life-long habit of leaving things half done.....right?
Does the "W" stand for Waffling?
Bodhi, some of the beliefs you state are more in line with "old time" conservative values, the swill being pumped out in Washington and repackaged as conservatism these days is not....it's nothing more than lip service.
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I gotta ask where your sources are. You do realize that every word the president says (down to when he called that reporter an amazinhunk) is recorded and published. Every interview, every press release, every speech Bush has made as president can be found on the official white house webpage. On it, I found two of your quotes.
I want justice. There's an old poster out west, as I recall, that said, "Wanted: Dead or Alive." (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-3.html)
This remark was made to the employees of the Pentagon on 17 Sept 2001. He was talking about calling up the Guard and Reserves in support of the attack on the Taliban. In the same speech he mentioned multiple times that the focus was not just on bin Laden but on all of terrorism. He made no statement whatsoever about not resting until bin Laden was killed or captured.
The other quote was this:
Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy who, three months ago, was in control of a county. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011228-1.html)
Comments made on Dec 28 2001 indicating that the emphasis was not on bin Laden
However, I could not find a single reputable source that had either your Sept 13 2001 quote or your March 13 2002 quote. I DID find those quotes on some interesting websites:
http://www.nevertrustamonkey.com/archives/001165.php (http://www.nevertrustamonkey.com/archives/001165.php)
http://home.earthlink.net/~whosgoingtohell/whosgoingtohell-2002-03-18.htm (http://home.earthlink.net/~whosgoingtohell/whosgoingtohell-2002-03-18.htm)
http://mindprod.com/bush.html (http://mindprod.com/bush.html)
Of course I was hoping to find a reputable website that quoted Bush on your first and last quotes but I could only find chat rooms and sites that do nothing but bash the governments of the free world. Do you know where he was when he made those two quotes? Do you know who he was speaking to?
...OR could you just be reading sites like "nevertrustamonkey.com" and believing every word written because they have quotation marks and a date attached to them? If that is the case, you're just as bad (if not worse) as the people I know who let their politics be dominated by whatever is said by their favorite political party.
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Here's the 3-13-2002 quote, I'll dig up the other monkey-boy quote tomorrow.
IIRC it's an off the cuff remark made in passing.
"I truly am not that concerned about him." (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html)
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OBL is dead. Thats why he is no longer a priority.
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Didn't he recently give out an announcement through Al-jazeira?
At least someone's TRYING to make it look he's still there.
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Originally posted by weazel
Here's the 3-13-2002 quote, I'll dig up the other monkey-boy quote tomorrow.
IIRC it's an off the cuff remark made in passing.
"I truly am not that concerned about him." (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html)
Don't sweat it Weazel, you won't lose credibility with me if you can't back your defamation. Of course, that's because you have none to lose.
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Just wonderin' if ya ever got around to digging up that "quote" Weazel?