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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: muckmaw on February 01, 2003, 10:36:02 AM
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For those not already aware, check CNN, or another news source.
Our prayers go out to the astronauts and their families...
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Sweat Jesiuos, man I remember so vividedly when this hapend last time, I was in High school, the whole freaking day came to schreaching halt they set up TV's so we could all watch the news, very sad stuff this.
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This is a very sad day and my heart goes out to their families, friends and associates.
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In what grand light that shines so rare
that the stars and the planets fail to compare.
I am the guide and the carrier of a cargo of seven
Who reached out so boldly to touch the heavens.
Through the void of space I did carry my crew
to thier final resting place in the skies so blue
One last chance for my light to brightly shine
for it is I, Columbia and my cargo's time
I thought I would,..well...I am a bit sad right now.
to the crew of Columbia and may God help the families that were left behind.
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Nice words, Skuzzy. My heartfelt condolences to all of their families, and to the people of the US....
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:( I am at loss of words... All I can think of is that I should've gone outside and watched this last launch.
to all those who risk their lifes for the advancement of knowledge and the expansion of the human race.
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Beautiful Skuzzy
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God be with them and their families.
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Pokie
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Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds...and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of...wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew.
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
'High Flight' by John Gillespie Magee, Jr.
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In 1986, I was a young child. I cried when I heard the loss of our space people.
In 2003, I was a young man, I wept when I heard the loss of our heros who risk their lifes for the name of science.
STS-107, Thank you for being a hero, to the United States, and to the World. Goodbye. May God's love and blessing be with you.
Fatz
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We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, as they prepared for their journey and waved good-bye and "slipped the surly bonds of earth" to "touch the face of God."
-President Ronald Regan, 1986
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February 2 2003 Another sad day for humanity :(
January 26 1986. I remember that day :(
I came back from elementary thinking about watching cartoons. I was shocked when I saw a challenger exploded.
How many where in the shuttle?
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Shuttle Commander Rick D. Husband
Pilot William C. McCool
Payload Commander Michael P. Anderson
Mission Specialist David M. Brown
Mission Specialist Kalpana Chawla
Mission Specialist Laurel Clark
Mission Specialist Ilan Ramon
I well remember the Challenger in 1986. They put it on the TVs in each classroom and we watched it for the rest of the day. Even now I have to change the channel when I see that footage begin to roll. Watching it over and over and over and over and over on that January day has imprited it in my mind.
Today is very sad.:(
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:( It's a very sad day.
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You aint kidding. :(
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A very sad day.
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This is a sad day indeed. I sit here at work and wonder what it was that went wrong. I remember 1986, I was only 10 at that time, but I remember. I pray for all who are affected in any way shape or form from this tragedy.
Booky
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very sad indeed. :(
Lets remember to pay the same respect for all those who will be innocent victims in a possible upcomming event. :o
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To honor the ones that have given their lives for a better future for the world.
Commander Rick Husband
Pilot William McCool
Payload Commander Michael Anderson
Mission Specialist Kalpana Chawla
Mission Specialist David Brown
Mission specialist Laurel Clark
Israeli Payload Specialist Ilan Ramon
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Charlie Mike brave brothers and sisters. You are truly heros.
Tatical Officer
99TH ASTAG
Swift to Avenge
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Very, very nice Skuzzy.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the brave explorers and their families.
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Heartbroken :(
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Brave they were....I'm proud of their sacrifice. They lived life fully.
May God have mercy on them all.
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:( Very nice words guys. <
> Columbia.
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These people are part of the group of folks that are true heros. They go and do things not fior the money, but for what they can do to make it better for others. God must surely have a special place for them to have called them to Him so early. I pray not for those that lost their lives for they are with their God. I pray for those left behind that they might have their grief eased and begin to live again.
to those who risk their lives in the performance of their duties.
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May he go forth in the sunrise boat,
May he come to port in the sunset boat,
May he go among the imperishable stars,
May he journey in the Boat of a Million Years.
From The Book of Going Forth by Daylight (Theban recension, ca. 18th Dynasty)
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Don't know if anyone else heard the mission commander's comments on the anniversary of the Challenger's accident. Very appropriate, but now very spooky.
Gods comfort to those who mourn,
His mercy to those who perished,
and grant us wisdom to understand why,
good men and women,
trying to improve all mens lives,
must perish
LW
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A great tragedy... I also remember the Challenger disaster from 1986, I was in highschool back then. Saw a charred helmet on CNN an hour or so ago...
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And euhm, I don't know how to put this but:
Sweat Jesiuos!
Is this intentional?
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Hmm.. how many people die in normal road accidents daily?
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a lot more than 7
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If those 7 astronauts would have died in a bus crash while enroute to the training, would you be lighting candles to them right now? No.
People are treating them like saints. Their lives weren't any more valuable than the average joe who loses his life daily on the road. At least these people died living their dream.
Just to put things to perspective.
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Hey Captain obvious, I think the difference and point is most people driving to 7-11 aren’t really riding the super-science technology wire at Mach 6 in outer space, something so uncommon and truely amazing, that it drives and inspires the pride and imagination of ones country. Hell, the whole world.
Hense when there is a failure, it's news worthy, and reminds us even in our highest level of achievment, we are indeed mortal. I could go without 3 more threads on the same topic, but you 2 are pretty much fools.
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Originally posted by Creamo
pride and imagination of ones country
If one's pissant backwater of a home country does not possess these traits, then one might not get it.
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Creamo so anyone riding a vehicle expensive and popular enough becomes a superhero or as it seems, a saint?
The death of someone driving to 7-11 is not as important as someone crashing from space?
Interesting.
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Also remember that those astronauts were the product of zillions of dollars of training. Training that we (yanks) paid for. When our fancy space vehicle is destroyed with our countrymen who were incredibly highly trained with our money, we are going to be pissed. To a foreigner they might just be 7 dead people, not significant in the world total. But to us they mean more.
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Yes.
I now promote you to Commander obvious. You have quite the knack for understanding these things that are so apparent.
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I understand all that, you're pissed for losing your money etc.
But all this stuff with poems, pictures and such.. It seems far fetched to me. I'd even understand if you were close relatives of these people, or even knew them personally. To me it looks like this whole ordeal is taking religious proportions.
Maybe I just don't understand the way you yanks think.
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It's sad to think that this tragedy is causing so much ill feeling in this thread, and I won't be surprised to see it locked. And yes, it is a tragedy. :(
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Mrsid2.....
Something is wrong with you....anyone who would take an opportunity like this to spew forth such crap is at best, pathetic.
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[True that the death of all men is a loss. HOWEVER-someone driving to the 7-11 to get a beer, loaf of bread, or some formula is not quite the same as someone who lost their life while trying to better mankind-the experiments carried on in the space program have created quite a few of the "luxuries" we earthbound fellows enjoy. Even you have benefited (check computers etc)
LW
QUOTE]Originally posted by mrsid2
If those 7 astronauts would have died in a bus crash while enroute to the training, would you be lighting candles to them right now? No.
People are treating them like saints. Their lives weren't any more valuable than the average joe who loses his life daily on the road. At least these people died living their dream.
Just to put things to perspective. [/QUOTE]
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So what you're saying is that every human life isn't important. A normal person paying the space program from his tax money is not worth the same consideration as a trained astronaut?
What about the human embryo, it hasn't done anything worthwhile during its lifetime. Is it's life worthless? What's the fuzz about abortion then?
I repeat, do anyone of you know any of these people personally?
If not, it really should not affect you in this way.
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Some morn the loss of public people publicly, private people privately. Attempting to suggest to the readers of this board that your reaction to death , ”mrsid2”, is right while thier's is wrong is an error in judgement.
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Mudder I'm not saying they are totally wrong.. I just think it's blown out of proportions. To me it seems that way..
At least I couldn't really be affected by deaths of people who I really don't know in any way counting out the media. I respect the mourn of the families and send my condolences to the ones that need it.
However I don't see the 'sacrifice' these people really did, because I'm sure they died living up their dream and that's something most of us will never have during our lifetime.
In a way I envy them, not feel sorry for them.
In my perspective I respect the hard working guys who rushed up the WTC far more than these astronauts. They never got the fame and credit during their lifetime, but that's where the real heroes are. Nobody writes poems for the average joe, even if he deserves one.
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Nothing heroic about climbing inside a flying h-bomb and then setting it off on purpose knowing you can't steer it or hit the brakes while trying to defeat the most powerfull force on Earth, gravity.
Those folks may be living out a dream, but it takes serious moxy to do what they do for a regular paycheck.
The space program and it's members are one of the last chances my kids will enjoy World peace and I hope NASA doesn't run out of heroes.
Crew of Columbia, I won't let my family forget.
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Mrsid2: It's the Clinton legacy... "I feel your pain." thing hard at work.
If those 7 astronauts would have died in a bus crash while enroute to the training, would you be lighting candles to them right now? No.
People are treating them like saints. Their lives weren't any more valuable than the average joe who loses his life daily on the road. At least these people died living their dream.
Just to put things to perspective.
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Simmer down you scurvy air pirates! and read the whole thread before ya lynch me!
I have met some of these heroes of our times, and times past. they really are human you know, but I digress...
I admire and respect those heroic folks that put their lives on the line for us everyday. I also feel an empty spot in the world whenever they pass away. The same sized spot that I feel for "Joe Average", and then I get on with life.
I agree that some of 'us' take the tragedy of prominant people way to hard and 'mourn' far out of proportion than they do the average persons tragedy. How many of you 'grieve' as hard for some druggy giving birth to an addicted baby?
How many of you are anti-abortion, yet cringe at the thought of adopting a hydroencephelatic child?
How many of you pay lip service to 'Christianity'?
How many of you grieve as hard for the cop on the beat, or the fireman, or librarian even, when fate deals them a low hand?
Not very damn many I am sure. :o
And that, my dear friends is the root of our social problems in the good old U.S. of A. You're all out there beating your chests for everything but the right thing!
Which really pisses me off when I see threads of this sort.
Now, yall can call me cynical... You can say "get your heart out of yer ass, Odee!"! You can pretty much say anything about me that you want, and no way can I, let alone would I, dare to try to stop you. That is your God given right, which the Constitution only puts in print for all to read and ignore should they so choose.
At least I know in my heart of hearts that what I do, and how I grieve is the "right thing for me", and I for sure am not going to make a public spectacle out of someone elses misfortune.
Thank you for reading the whole piece. Now lynch away.
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And some people have no clue how to respect those that wish to mourn/honor anybody.
Damn shame if you ask me.
Out of respect for the families and friends of those good people I am stopping this thread before it degrades any further.