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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: eye on July 25, 2000, 11:32:00 PM
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Lately ive noticed when you get on a guys 6 some warp. Almost on purpose it seems. It happens to me when i have a guy dead.
Then a big warp.
Right on my shot.
This happened in aw too.
Anyone have any ideas whats going on?
I know it could be my connect.
It just seems that im getting alot of these
right when im on a guys six going for a SURE KILLSHOT.
Is there some trick?
Are people engageing progams to make a hick up?
I usualy have a good connect with very few warps. 56k modem
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I didn't have experience occasional "warp" such like WB.
It is happend not only your connection but also your target's
Try to check trace route.
You had better to monitor each hops,
response time and packet loss.
You should monitor at least 30min or more
and trying change "send buffer size"
Try to test other USP and compare if you have multiple USP account.
It is important to find USP for players who are livng outside of USA like me. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I gotta Button... wanna buy one? Got it from the same place cavey got his cloaking device.
Unfortunatly; like Cavey's Cloak; the damn things kinda unreliable.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Hang
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The closer you get to a plane, the more detail and the more nuances of the other plane's movement that has to be piped down through the internet to your monitor. Warp.
Saw this in AW and WB regularly. Not so in AH. In other words, those kinds of warps aren't a sad reality here. You can do something about your connection to stop it. What the hell that is... I have no idea.
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There *is* a warp that happens at about d3.7k
In alla the years that HT has been doing this, he has never been able to track down the reason for that. Has no idea why that happens. So that's one you wont be able to fix... and one that I can live with.
[This message has been edited by Nash (edited 07-26-2000).]
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Not quite nash. Ive always know why that warp at d3.7 happens. Never have come up with a way to change it. With Anything i've thought of, the cure is worse than the illness.
HiTech
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Not quite Nash, Ive alway known what causes that warp. Just never have come up with a solution to change it.
HiTech
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wow, ya just warped there HT (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Heh, anyways, yah sorry... I remember you explaining this a long time ago and got the details wrong. That 3.7 warp is no biggie anyways but I can imagine that as a programmer, it's one of those baffling little anomalies that must really get under yer skin (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). Thanks fer putting it straight.
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rock solid this warp is hapening almost every time.
D under 1.2
i doubt every one would warp even if they could.
Must be my connect (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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There are probably a nudred reasons why a warp would occur.
Starting at your computer and working your way to the server, here are some (?) of the possible elements that would induce warp.
1) Video card is out of texture ram, or is needing to load a new texture into video ram and this could cause a warp to occur.
2) Modem retrain occurs. This would cause some really significant warps in a heated battle.
3) Hard disk soft error occurs during read/write. A disk retry would cause a warp to occur.
4) The phone company has to reroute your call, which causes a modem retrain, see #2 above.
4a) If DSL, the phone company switch needs to alter your allocated bandwidth to make room for some other user trying to get thier bandwidth. This would cause a warp.
4b) Some cable modem user next door decides he needs to download Windows 2000 from the Internet. This would cause your entire block to warp.
5) Your ISP is experiencing saturation of thier connections for a moment. This would cause a warp.
6) Any router between you and HTC experiencing saturation, routing problems, or general mayhem, would cause a warp.
7) All the above would cause warps in any combination, at any time.
8) The other plane you are chasing is experiencing any of 1-6 above would cause warps to appear.
HT's servers have yet to break a sweat. I know what they are capable of,...I built them and they are not even breathing hard at peak times. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Just some thoughts.
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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
President, AppLink Corp.
http://www.applink.net
skuzzy@applink.net
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Originally posted by Skuzzy:
There are probably a nudred reasons why a warp would occur.
Starting at your computer and working your way to the server, here are some (?) of the possible elements that would induce warp.
You forgot:
9) Some cretin is doing a multithreaded port scan from 1 to 65535 on you
10) You forgot to close Napster
11) You forgot to close Gnutella
12) You forgot to sacrifice a virgin sheep to the Net-Gods this year
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Some one pulls hard your lag added to his lag if one bad or both bad then of course you'll see a warp.Sorry to say but if it happens all da time it will be your con most likely that is the culprit..
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d3.7k ?
It's in kilometer/mile/meter/yard/feet/inch or some strange anglo-american unit ?
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Don't you know anything?
Three point seven thousand Mars Bars.
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Originally posted by Vulcan:
12) You forgot to sacrifice a virgin sheep to the Net-Gods this year
ARG! I have no virgin sheeps left!!
Damn...this is what happens to me for being such a sick bastard... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
RAM----------------->Rrrrrrready to see warps
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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a mars br : about 10/12 centimeters so d3.7k
it's between 370 meters and 444 m ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mars Bars, like everything else, are 10x bigger in Texas. You need to factor that into your formula.
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Waxer
I/JG2 Richthofen
(http://home.earthlink.net/~neiljohnston/_uimages/waxer1.jpg)
"Nothin' up my sleeve...Presto!"
[This message has been edited by Waxer (edited 07-27-2000).]
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Straffo, 3.7k on the icon in AH means 3700 yards.
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Originally posted by funked:
Straffo, 3.7k on the icon in AH means 3700 yards.
Which is 2.1022 miles. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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RAM LEAVE MY SHEEP ALONE!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/mad.gif)
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I've noticed that some people seem to cheat by unplugging and plugging ethernet cables repeatedly (or doing something that is equivalent, maybe software based, for all I know) to cause large warping on demand. I've seen this multiple times, and it seems clear from the timing and control of it that it is on purpose and under their control, not just network traffic, a background process starting at random on their machines, etc.
I just had it happen tonight again, for example. I'm 1 on about 5 enemies in a furball. Everything is smooth. Then I get close to one particular P-47N, and the guy starts warping all over the place. Then I clear or latch onto another, and he's nice and stable. Then I get on him, and he's warping all over, and so on.
I've seen this before, both in fights and with folks who, during diving runs on airfields, mysteriously go from smooth while no one is on them, to ultry warpy as people approach, to smooth for long enough to line up and release their bombs, to ultra warpy right after that as they run away.
Fortunately, it doesn't happen a lot, but to totally eliminate it, maybe more-extensive heuristics would be needed to make some judgement and then disconnect the person, or to do something with the guy's representation of his plane as seen by others, to have it fly straight for a longer period of time than happens now (so that he can be shot down more easily if he tries this).
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:huh
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I had that happen to me. Each time id open fire, the guy in front of me warped.
Turned out to be a problem with the soundcard/driver.
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Originally posted by Stang
:huh
:huh :huh
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INteresting:noid This might be the oldest thread I've ever seen dug up.
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Brooke, maybe it's not a matter of cable pulling. Check this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165563)
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Never mind...
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Err.... Wilbus.... maybe you just missed to take a look at the dates of those posts... Or are you joking? :confused:
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LOL. Yup missed the dates.
Why da F*** do people dig up these old threads?
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Gian is a proffesional hijacker
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Five years. That has to be a record. It also shows jsut how far back this forum goes...
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Why does it show me as guest ?
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Originally posted by Brooke
I've noticed that some people seem to cheat by unplugging and plugging ethernet cables repeatedly
I hear this crap all the time on 200. How do you know that?
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Originally posted by Wilbus
LOL. Yup missed the dates.
Why da F*** do people dig up these old threads?
Because what I want to bring up (which is happening now) is the same topic as this thread was discussing (even if it was discussing it from long ago). I don't just blindly make a new thread whenever I want to discuss things, like the majority of the AH community does. I actually search first to see if there is already a topic suitable to the discussion. To do otherwise is just lazy.
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Originally posted by SunKing
I hear this crap all the time on 200. How do you know that?
I explain -- in detail -- why I think this in my post. How do you know it's crap?
I'm going to test it this weekend and see if I can reproduce it. I'll let folks know what I find out.
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INcredible!
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Grin
:aok
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Originally posted by Brooke
I explain -- in detail -- why I think this in my post. How do you know it's crap?
I'm going to test it this weekend and see if I can reproduce it. I'll let folks know what I find out.
Wait, are you admitting that you are going to attempt cheating, then come back here and tell everyone how its done? 'Cuz if you are, that'd be awesome.
...also, could you do some experiments for us and let us know how hard and how many times you have to hit yourself in the head with a baseball bat before you knock yourself out?
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Not sure but I'll bet he's PNG before the bat hits the floor. ;)
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Should be some in[/I]teresting results
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This is common in Halo 2 on the XBOX. Modem tomfoolery I won't go into here for obvious reasons. Only certain ones can do it, and most likely involved the person specifically buying this form of modem. Also it seems our European friends don't use this type much.
I doubt this form of cheating can even be performed in AHII, but it can in some games and it's the lowest of the low.
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well i defintly have film of HELLBENT...i was 600yds on his 6....then he disapeears....less then 5 seconds lagter..hes apears at 5k away
ghey
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:huh :huh :huh
:huh
:noid
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Brooke! Don't you know that wading into the General Forum is almost as dangerous as wading into the OT Forum? :P
A bit of unsolicited advice, if it were me I would not post what you tested and what the results were.....iirc I don't think HTC likes that much even if it is in good faith.
200 posts....lol
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Originally posted by Furious
Wait, are you admitting that you are going to attempt cheating, then come back here and tell everyone how its done? 'Cuz if you are, that'd be awesome.
...also, could you do some experiments for us and let us know how hard and how many times you have to hit yourself in the head with a baseball bat before you knock yourself out?
Yes, I'm going to see if I can replicate what I saw. However, based on Fury's post, if I find that I am able to do so in some simple way, I'll report it to HTC first before I post any info on it here. If they ask me not to do so, I won't.
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Originally posted by Fury
Brooke! Don't you know that wading into the General Forum is almost as dangerous as wading into the OT Forum? :P
A bit of unsolicited advice, if it were me I would not post what you tested and what the results were.....iirc I don't think HTC likes that much even if it is in good faith.
200 posts....lol
Thanks, Fury. And this is good advice. I'll clear information I find (if any) with HTC first before posting it here.
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If I were you Brooke, I would edit any post that states what you were going to attempt.
See rule 8 in the forum rules
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well ...this is the one and only tiem i have seen it..
What made me a bit disappointed was I got no response from HTC
Sent film in..I revied a afew more tiems..yep..looks real fishy..
Then I see Hellbent back in MA..
Would of like to hear somthn about it...anything........silence
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Originally posted by RAM
ARG! I have no virgin sheeps left!!
Damn, me neither will a llama (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php) work just as well?
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1985/lammaduck5xs.gif)
;)
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4b) Some cable modem user next door decides he needs to download Windows 2000 from the Internet. This would cause your entire block to warp.
Thats STILL some priceless stuff right there :)
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Stupid question form a computer illiterate.... wouldnt yanking your cable so hard just give you a Host Connection Lost?
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Stupid question form a computer illiterate.... wouldnt yanking your cable so hard just give you a Host Connection Lost?
yes ... the wanna cheats try it anyway .. and sometimes they get lucky .. but most of the time the Tool shed wINs anyway ...
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Originally posted by Flit
If I were you Brooke, I would edit any post that states what you were going to attempt.
Good point, Flit, but the BB won't let me do so any longer.
However, I have sent an e-mail to HTC describing the discussion and giving them the location and contents of the post so that they can delete it if they wish.