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Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: funkedup on February 02, 2003, 07:28:14 AM
that draws the Anti-American crowd out of the woodwork?
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: mrsid2 on February 02, 2003, 09:00:31 AM
It's easy to slam people at their weakest.

(Btw. My posts are not intended to be anti-american in any way, I just have different opinnions on certain things.)

Heck, I played the green card lottery! Lol.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Karnak on February 02, 2003, 09:36:48 AM
I've been to several boards and have seen no anti-American sentiments at all.  I saw a couple of love muffines, but they were from Texas, not Europe, and they were vicious, crude and dispicable but not anti-American.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Animal on February 02, 2003, 10:01:02 AM
The solution is not to give a crap about the anti-american crowd.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Tommy on February 02, 2003, 10:35:27 AM
In response to hitting the US at its weakest. I know it was a figure of speach so Im saying htis in general also. We maybe down and our harts may be hurting but by no means are we weak. Look at History anytime we were down we rally behind our country and always prevail.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Gman on February 02, 2003, 10:57:05 AM
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The solution is not to give a crap about the anti-american crowd.



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Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: mrsid2 on February 02, 2003, 11:14:18 AM
You kinda just answered to the whole question Gman. lol
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Animal on February 02, 2003, 11:24:35 AM
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Originally posted by Gman
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Ironic.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Frogm4n on February 02, 2003, 11:44:12 AM
anti-american has different meanings. to me being anti-american is not having an opinion and having a status quote. Democracy only works if we argue and fight and then compromise.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Fishu on February 02, 2003, 02:23:13 PM
So if someone says something bad about america, it is about being anti-american?
Isn't that bit too radical title in most cases?

I suppose there can be only anti- and pro-americans..
Sounds kind of facistic way of putting up the things, doesn't it?
You're either fully for it or you're the enemy.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: hyena426 on February 02, 2003, 02:45:12 PM
i think what they are saying is,,there are a few people{i wont say any names},,that dont live in usa,,,and every day they do nothing but spout crap about the usa,,,and thats all they talk about!! i dont care if some one says somthing bad about the usa,,but everyday i look in here,,its the same people saying the same crap,,,,i never see them say anything good about anyone,,or just strike up a conversation about planes or cars or anything,,,,you allmost feal like saying after time,,if you got nothing good to say,,dont say it at all,,lol but we all know that wouldnt work,,lol

people have a right to there opinions,,,but when they make it there life ,,waking up every day to dig some crap about are country,,or hoping innocent people die so they can blame the CIA,,,it starts to get a little old,,lol
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Animal on February 02, 2003, 02:47:34 PM
. != ,
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: AKIron on February 02, 2003, 02:53:31 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
anti-american has different meanings. to me being anti-american is not having an opinion and having a status quote. Democracy only works if we argue and fight and then compromise.


uh, in case you haven't noticed Frogman, not everyone in this world of ours is pro democracy. I'd say there are plenty of nations out there that would snuff us all in an instant if it were within their power. Or, perhaps you think I'm delsuional as perhaps some on this board may?
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Dowding on February 02, 2003, 04:05:56 PM
I've seen nothing but people offering their condolences, from all over the place.

Or is this a question of needing people to have an 'appropriate emotional response'? Otherwise they are insensitive monsters or 'anti-american', in this case.

Either way, like I said, people have been uniformly saddened by the disaster.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Slash27 on February 02, 2003, 05:06:58 PM
mrsid felt the need to taint the thread about the shuttle with his "wisdom".  Its amazing this piece of trash really thinks its appropriate to do that.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Pongo on February 02, 2003, 05:31:27 PM
Funked..If I dont think the world has changed or should change because a US Aircraft has crashed, am I anti american?
We had 7 kids killed in an avalanche here on the same day the shuttle went down..which should bother us more?
Does the fact that the crew of that shuttle had to try harder and train longer and compete to a much higher level make it more tragic then 7 guys killed in a van coming back from work digging a ditch?
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: NOD2000 on February 02, 2003, 05:56:02 PM
I guess some people will never get it. Those 7 men and women aboard Columbia are honored for a different reason than your average joe.

These men and women represented humanity as a whole. Most of them came from different countries discarding their different beliefs, religions, country's disputes/old wars to come together with one common goal. This common goal is to help mankind as a whole.

 As population grows more and more, and the need to feed people, and house people gets bigger and bigger we will have to move on to other places(and probably planets in time). Many people still do not realize this idea, but these men and women who died, died  for a cause to help greaten humanity as a whole it was for humanities future not just some science project and it was not just America who was hurt, It was humanty as a whole.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Slash27 on February 02, 2003, 07:27:35 PM
It doesnt mean you are anti-American Pongo. I guess it means you just dont get it. Why cant people just grieve and show their respect?  You cant honestly believe that by people showing sympothy for those who have fallen and thier families takes away from other peoples tragedies. It doesnt mean that the death of people that are not "high profile" is insignificant. Surely you understand that.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Sandman on February 02, 2003, 07:30:31 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
It doesnt mean you are anti-American Pongo. I guess it means you just dont get it. Why cant people just grieve and show their repect?  You cant honestly believe that by people showing sympothy for those who have fallen and thier families takes away from other peoples tragedies. It doesnt mean that the death of people that are not "high profile" is insignificant. Surely you understand that.


Pongo probably does, but the media certainly doesn't.
Title: What is it about public American tragedies...
Post by: Karnak on February 02, 2003, 09:00:56 PM
I don't think MrSid was being anti-American.  He was simply being harshly egalitarian.  I have seen that kind of response to all tragedies, be they a shuttle breaking up over Texas and taking seven people with it or a jumbo jet going down in the Ukraine and taking two hundred and fifty two people with it.  There are simply people who see everybody as having the same value, regardless of the specifics.

They aren't anti-Russian when they disagree with caring about Russin victims of an air disaster and they aren't anti-Filipino when they mock people for caring about the victims of a ferry disaster.

In all cases they are being very rude and insensitve, but their beef isn't with a country, it is with us who place our sympathy and hopes in a particular set of people and not with the random victims of everyday automobile accidents.

For my part I think they are wrong, and I think they are juvenile to spout their inflamitory comments when people are obviously mourning.


The Columbia and the seven Astronauts abourd her were carrying a portion of our hope for a better tommorrow, and when they died that bit of hope died.  Because they risked, and payed with, their lives to carriy that hope they are heros.