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Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Rude on February 03, 2003, 09:21:26 AM
Due to some issues in the MA of late, I wandered into the CT(second time since it's birth).

The first thing I noticed was the feel of the current map was great...visually, it gave a whole new shot in the arm to the experience.

Secondly, I'm finding good fights....fun ones where you can get after it in 3v3's and not have 30 nme drop in on your head.

Lastly, the numbers need to grow...80 last night made for good fun and fights, but more choices would be better.

To any of you that have never been to the CT, try it....to those of you who have tried it and did not like it, at least go check out this map...it is very cool.

Now this business about the best pilots fly in the CT, well, let's just say it's not true:)
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: T0J0 on February 03, 2003, 09:31:37 AM
Hey quit spreading Rumors about the CT :)....Jeez..its nice and peaceful in there... Or at least it was till the last couple of weeks!
 They last 2 maps have been great, the early war plane sets are alot of fun.... And there isn't LA-7's and Spit9's everywhere, which is the biggest plus...It forces players to give up the LA-7 crutch on the limited plane sets... And best of all no pizza map....:)
T0J0
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Berra85 on February 03, 2003, 09:46:05 AM
I went in there for my second ever time about 2 hours ago, although there were only 7 in there i enjoyed it tonnes, i had a couple of good fights, also the finrus map or whatever its called rocks, good job......
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Innominate on February 03, 2003, 09:46:11 AM
the current setup is one of the best i've seen in the CT
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: popeye on February 03, 2003, 09:54:37 AM
My main complaint with the CT continues to be, poor communication.  It could be a lot easier to find a fight, and avoid chasing friendly dots, if people would communicate more.

Otherwise, I had some good times there over the weekend.  Although, it's hard to get used to swastikas on my FM2.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Ripsnort on February 03, 2003, 10:06:07 AM
Wasn't too long ago that "80" in the Main Arena meant it was Friday night....CT brings back memories of a smaller, more gentlemanly AH
Title: Re: A Change of Heart
Post by: Jospe2 on February 03, 2003, 10:23:21 AM
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Originally posted by Rude

Now this business about the best pilots fly in the CT, well, let's just say it's not true:)



Ouch ....   ;)  



Jospedweeb


I hardly ever fly MA,   like you said 31 v 1 arnt for me.
Title: Re: A Change of Heart
Post by: Ripsnort on February 03, 2003, 10:28:21 AM
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Originally posted by Rude

Now this business about the best pilots fly in the CT, well, let's just say it's not true:)


We know, you are flying there. :D
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Apache on February 03, 2003, 10:44:28 AM
Well I must say I had fun in the CT as well. Went in lastnight. Good fights, the ones I was in.
Title: Re: Re: A Change of Heart
Post by: Rude on February 03, 2003, 10:49:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
We know, you are flying there. :D


Isn't that the sad truth:)
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: lazs2 on February 03, 2003, 10:56:35 AM
I found that the fights were a lot easier to survive than the MA.   I was lucky and found the spotwhere the fights were.   I certainlly wouldn't want to fly the ct when numbers were less than 70 or so tho.   I also feel that the plane set would get old really quick.   Rather have a little variety...

in short... if you are being attacked close to your field by less than overwhelming odds then it is fun..  I did chase some dots and visit a deserted field.... wasted time...  I also fought over scraps... 5 guys on one con was normal nothing different from the MA... I got no "nostalgia" feel in there...  The players did not seem to have even as high an average skill level as the ma but seemed less aggressive.  

I found it to be very much like the pizza map in the ma.... if you get lucky and find a pocket of activity then it is a blast but.... like the pizza.... it is akin to winning the lottery.
lazs
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Ripsnort on February 03, 2003, 11:10:14 AM
I think the RPS would work great in the CT.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: popeye on February 03, 2003, 11:17:04 AM
He said, "RPS".
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Batz on February 03, 2003, 11:27:36 AM
actually when funked was a cm they set up an rps for the CT.

Its been tried and it brought in no more numbers then were there previously.

The number 1 draw to the CT has been the maps. Theres been a host of different settings etc............

A good playable map even offsets some of the poorer plane match ups.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: lazs2 on February 03, 2003, 12:11:35 PM
and therein lies the dilema..... If you insist on the "allied vs axis" thing... you get crappy matchups to go along with your lack of variety.    About the only time there was parity in WWII was the BOB and you can't do that every day.
lazs
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: dracon on February 03, 2003, 12:30:37 PM
New Guy here.  I just stumbled in to AH on Tuesday, still on my free 2 weeks.  I went in the CT first to get my feet wet.  Loved it from the start.  Very cool map.  I will be staying with AH and plan to spend most my time there.
In other SIMMs I have flown, side balancing is everyones responsibility.  It's no fun to have 2 or 3 to 1 odds and be on either side of the fray.  I know that if I long in and it's lopsided I will go to the side that needs the pilots.  Maybe easier said then done but if people understand what they have to gain...FUN!  It should be a problem.


Dracon

Long Live the CT
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Hornet on February 03, 2003, 12:34:30 PM
The CT guys have a great opportunity if they choose to take advantage of it.

They've got some great maps, if I were them, I'd ease up on the plane restrictions during the periods that the Pizza is in rotation (maybe open up the planeset and divide it pure Axis/Allied across the board). They'd be surprised how many people would come pouring in.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: midnight Target on February 03, 2003, 12:36:28 PM
Used to go to the CT to die...

But I landed a couple kills last time I wandered in, soooo....

Either I'm getting better or the overall skill level has dropped.

Fun stuff though.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Puke on February 03, 2003, 01:09:28 PM
I see two problems:

1.  No one knows what's going on in the CT unless you enter the arena and read the briefing or you find out on this BBS.  But your typical furballer probably checks neither.  I never heard of the CT RPS and if I had, I would've participated.  

2.  Axis v Allies stups will always make trouble for side-balancing.  I was in yesterday and it was right about a 2-to-1 ratio and the Russians were conquering left and right.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Nifty on February 03, 2003, 01:14:53 PM
skill level is the same.  You'll run into average pilots, and you'll run into really good pilots.

Lately I've been on the same side as Shane when I've flown, so haven't gotten my arse handed to me by him.  I had Vulcan smack me down a couple of times, and had some really good fights against grunherz that I lost (but one was one of the best fights I've had.)

Other times I've gotten to fight people about the same skill as me, and even had a 6 kill sortie landed in the Buffalo (FM2 that is.)

Sometimes it's like a mini MA where you get overwhelmeed (but 12 to 4 instead of 36 to 12...)  When I'm in the CT, I try to switch sides (and encourage the Mongrels with me) to get on the side that needs help.

Glad you had fun, Rude.  Was nice flying with you instead of seeing your name come up as "Rude shot you down!"  ;)  IIRC, you got 4 kills in a FM2 the same time I had the 6 kill sortie.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Yeager on February 03, 2003, 01:34:23 PM
For me the CT is like a little fishing lake nestled up in the foothills that few people know about or take notice of.  I would like to keep it that way.  

*STAY OUT*

Seriously, if you like historic match-ups over historic terrains and some space to breath, come to the CT.  If all you want is a full plane set and MA furballs then do every CT regular a favour and keep the pollution in the MA.  Just stay there.

Talk to HTC about using some of the excellent terrains used in the CT in the MA but dont feel compelled to come to the CT and start arguing about turning the CT into the MA just because people are bored with the MA rotated terrains.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Jospe-Home on February 03, 2003, 01:42:29 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
For me the CT is like a little fishing lake nestled up in the foothills that few people know about or take notice of.  I would like to keep it that way.  



Couldnt have put it any better myself.   CT staff and pilots.

Jospe
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Ripsnort on February 03, 2003, 01:50:49 PM
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Originally posted by popeye
He said, "RPS".


He swam away :(
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: Pongo on February 03, 2003, 01:52:01 PM
I was in the CT for a few hours yesterday and had some excellent fights. Its nice to see people whine about the La5 instead of the La7.
This current map is worth seeing if you havent yet. New skins for may AC and a very beautifle map.
The small fields are very cool. the lack of carriers is very cool.  The restrictions on the type of AC is very cool. The Vehicle fight areas are very cool.
I dont think the pilot quality last night when the arena was between 50 and 80 players was any different from the MA.
The only problem I saw yesterday. And I have seen it before on other maps. Is the tendacy to attack undefended fields. You would think that the defenders would up at a near by field and there would be a fairly concentrated fight. But no. A very few people try to oppose a large attacking force while the mass of their country men mass to attack an enemy lightly defended field.

I think there needs to be a setting that only activates a ratio of the fields on the map in relation to the numbers of players that are logged on.  IE 6 people 2 fields per side. 20 people 3 fields per side.  Something to make it more of a combat sim.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: 10Bears on February 03, 2003, 02:24:17 PM
From Rip:
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I think the RPS would work great in the CT.


How would this work?.. would the setup guy change the plane line up every day? sounds like a good idea.
from Hornet
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open up the planeset and divide it pure Axis/Allied across the board). They'd be surprised how many people would come pouring in.


Would they?... worth a try.. I think opening up the third country also would add to the mix.

An interesting note, the last few weeks CT has been getting a lot of new users.. They said they will be signing up a account just because of the CT.. That's a good sign.

EDIT: A lil' birdie told me next weeks setup will be late war in a European country with lots of planes with Hungarian and Polish, and Russian lend lease markings..
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: sax on February 03, 2003, 02:40:33 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
For me the CT is like a little fishing lake nestled up in the foothills that few people know about or take notice of.  I would like to keep it that way.  


He's serious folks, the rest of the squad only found out through rumors and hear-say:)

Is a lot of fun and purty to.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: LePaul on February 03, 2003, 02:47:45 PM
I agree, the CT is a good deal of fun.

I just had cable internet plugged in...my dialup was seeing pings to the Main Arena at about 120.  Adelphia shows 450 in the Main, but 120 for the other arenas.  With Pizza map lasting several days now, I've been spending more time in the CT

HiTech mentioned a new map coming soon for the Main Arena.  I truly hope so, but the CT is a nice change of pace for a while.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: funkedup on February 03, 2003, 03:47:20 PM
When we first started CT, we had an RPS of the war over Europe.  Each week was a year or something like that.  It didn't draw too many people.  Of course we had a lot of other variations from the MA format (icons, radar, strat) along with the planeset change, so don't go overboard drawing conclusions.

I don't fly outside of events more than a couple of hours a month, but it's good to see the CT healthy.
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: wetrat on February 03, 2003, 03:56:14 PM
I stumbled into the CT a while ago when the MA was lagging, and it was running a late war LW / USAF scenario. I had fun roping mustangs and lightnings :) ManeTMP

I do agree though.. there is some good fighting to be had in there. Still more fun to mess around with another good pilot in the DA though :)
Title: A Change of Heart
Post by: poopster on February 03, 2003, 07:36:34 PM
I was in on Saturday and had a couple of good fights.

Haven't been in a 109 since my WB days. And haven't flown a Lag 5 here so it was all new.

Good time