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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: weazel on February 04, 2003, 12:55:26 PM
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That's what they call it, dunno about ultimate.
Ultimate IQ test (http://www.emode.com/tests/uiq/)
Congratulations weazel!
Your IQ score is 118
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions: mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Word Warrior.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you are equipped with a verbal arsenal that enables you to understand complex issues and communicate on a particularly high level.
(http://i.emode.com/tests/uiq/images/warrior_s.gif)
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geek
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Heh, IQ tests are a load of bunk.
I have yet to find anyone who gives a convincing description of intelligence and then demonstrates how it can be empirically measured.
This stuff is just to sell tests to people so they can pat themselves on the back telling themselves how clever they are.
The test must be bogus, I offer proof (completed the test in 8 mins (test is not timed!):
Congratulations, Bounder!
Your IQ score is 133
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you're equally good at mathematical and verbal tasks, and learn best through experience. But that's just scratching the surface.
To find out more about how your brain processes information and where your intellectual strengths lie, buy your personalized, 15-page IQ Report for only $14.95.
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To find out more about how your brain processes information and where your intellectual strengths lie, buy your personalized, 15-page IQ Report for only $14.95.
Anyone who sends them $14.95 gets an automatic IQ score of 72.
ra
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Congratulations, Swoop!
Your IQ score is 138
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Facts Curator.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you've fed your brain a unique collection of facts and figures over the years. You've got a good hold on words and numbers. But that's just scratching the surface.
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chose completly random answers...came out to 119
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135
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seems so far everybody is scoring way above average (maybe just those with good scores are posting but I doubt it)
seems like a scam to me- "hey, your really smart. send me $15 and I'll tell you all about how smart you are"
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Oh I dont know......I've scored somewhere between 135 and 140 on ever IQ test I ever took.
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Hmmm.
Got 133.
I doubt I'll score that much in a real Aisenk test. Never passed it so that I could know the results. I think it's a very good result when I have to answer in question stated in foreign language.
BTW, in USSR Aisenk's test wasn't considered reliable since the test itself and some keys to answers were published in a "Nauka i zhizn'" (Science and Life) popular magazine.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
135
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seems so far everybody is scoring way above average (maybe just those with good scores are posting but I doubt it)
seems like a scam to me- "hey, your really smart. send me $15 and I'll tell you all about how smart you are"
People on this board should have IQ above average.
I think this test is a good way to hunt for valid e-mails.
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bounder: Heh, IQ tests are a load of bunk.
I have yet to find anyone who gives a convincing description of intelligence and then demonstrates how it can be empirically measured.
What is the most authoritatve work that you've read on the subject? Have you read "The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability (Human Evolution, Behavior, and Intelligence)" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0275961036/qid=1044388663/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-4046163-8284101?v=glance&s=books) by Arthur Jensen, 1998?
It's only $59.95 for 664 pages of a 9.5 x 6.5 inches book. Facinating reading.
Check the "Contents" on Amazon, it has Chapters: "6. Biological Correlates of g", "8. Information Processing and g", "10. Construct, Vehicles, Measurements" and other interesting stuff.
miko
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Congratulations, Hortlund!
Your IQ score is 133
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.
LOL how about that...visionary philosopher huh
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I suspected swoop was smarter than me but i knew I was smarter than weazel... put your I.Q up first.... how dumb is that?
lazs
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The Ultimate IQ Test
Congratulations, Daniel!
Your IQ score is 135
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
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I took this some time ago, scored a 130 somthing (which is odd, because when my sisters and I had our IQ's test at age 12 respectively, we scored 121, 122, and 123) and verified that I've taken this when it already had my email in its data base.
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I know I'm smarter than you rip so yours is probly 133 or 134.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I know I'm smarter than you rip so yours is probly 133 or 134.
lazs
"If Lazs is smarter than Ripsnort, and Ripsnort is smarter than Weazel, than Lazs is smarter than Weazel"
True or false?
:p
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Ive seen pieces of vegetable that were smarter than Weazel...
Anyway, can anyone tell me what the answer to the last question is? I had no idea whatsoever on that one.
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I Flunked
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I'm smart enough to recognize Ann Coulter for what she is.
You on the other hand don't.........
Originally posted by Hortlund
Ive seen pieces of vegetable that were smarter than Weazel...
Anyway, can anyone tell me what the answer to the last question is? I had no idea whatsoever on that one.
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Originally posted by weazel
I'm smart enough to recognize Ann Coulter for what she is.
You on the other hand don't.........
"We do not see life as it is, we see life as we are"[/i]
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Weazel, you should go into the "caption this" thread for today. The first thing I thought when I saw that picture was "Miss Coulter coming home." or something like that...Of cource I would never post anything derogatory about her, but you seem to have no problem with that :)
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Congratulations, John!
Your IQ score is 127
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ Test.
During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. To determine your ability in these areas, we compared your answers to those given by the 6.5 million people who have taken Emode's Ultimate IQ Test.
The even better news is that Emode has taken intelligence assessment a step further than the rest, offering you insight no other IQ test can give. We have developed a reliable statistical algorithm that analyzes patterns in your responses to determine the unique way that your brain functions, revealing your Intellectual Type.
Our analyses indicate that your Intellectual Type is: Precision Processor. This means that among other things, you have superior skill in mathematics .
bogus test though
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Originally posted by vorticon
chose completly random answers...came out to 119
I doubt that vort.
Is this the same vorticon that took this very same test before?
11-01-2002:
290-total genius im skilled completly at everything
you see i found out a way to see which answers would give me the highest IQ and used it...
i would prolly get 125 if i didnt cheat
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"ive made up my mind dont confuse me with the facts"
I bumped up the Free Multiplayer thread for those that are interested in previous posts on the subject.
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A good IQ (without culture bias) will test one's ability to analyze and deduce. It will not test one's ambition, drive, willpower, and/or discipline which are far more important to one's employment/financial success. Doesn't test one's "luck" either.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Anyway, can anyone tell me what the answer to the last question is? I had no idea whatsoever on that one.
What was the question?
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133... seems to be a popular number..
I'm pretty sure i got all the answers right. I guess it's timing or something.
It is a questionable test for those who are not native or experianced english speakers. Lot of common phrases and such...
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The last question. The one with the purple circles and squares.
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I most probably chose the wrong answer by choosing the one figure that didn't have one figure bigger than the other... seemed logical at the time, but that doesn't explain the orientation of the figures.
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Yeah I picked nr 3 too, but I cant really explain why.
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Whoa - 133 - Im fluff'n SMART!
...thats what they told me when I took this test at 6 years old anyway. ;)
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Congratulations, Otto!
Your IQ score is 147
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is one of masterful understanding and wisdom, along with an inate ability to tolerate the really stupid people in this crazy world of ours.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you are equipped with a verbal arsenal that enables you to understand complex issues and communicate on a particularly high level. But that's just scratching the surface.
In some 35 years of top level educational experience, I have never witnessed such razor sharp intelligence matched with such good looks and of course, the charm....how could one person be such a complete stud!?!?
We bow to your funkyness and are honored to have had you grace our web site.
What a waste of time!
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Yeah I picked nr 3 too, but I cant really explain why.
I did also. Only pattern seems to be different sized objects. On the four left, can't chose object shapes, clocking, etc as any one pattern.
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Yeah, number three has two small objects. Every other one has one large object and one small one.
I got 133 too, which I'm starting to thin k is the bogus "all answers correct" solution. Most IQ tests have a time element too. This one didn't. This is just a scam to hook up dateless wonders.
In most cases IQ tests are suspect, but in this case I'm thinking it's just wrong. Hell, in the previous free ones that have been posted, people got anywhere from 100 to 180. Here we all get 133.
Visual MAthematician? What the hell is that? And then to tell me I don't get laid because I don't make passes at chicks. YEah, right, you can tell that by my massive vocabulary.
Thank god I have an email address I'm pulling the plug on in a week.
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I'd pick the second one. The others have a "pointer" with a matching opposite. Then again, I'm probably wrong.
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Originally posted by fd ski
133... seems to be a popular number..
I'm pretty sure i got all the answers right. I guess it's timing or something.
It is a questionable test for those who are not native or experianced english speakers. Lot of common phrases and such...
Agree completely.
133
(http://i.emode.com/tests/uiq/images/curator_s.gif)
This is what it is about. A "customized report". Kachiunk... $14.95
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I'm just waiting for someone to propose a Left- Right totals. Hey, wait a minute, looks like I just did. :)
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Originally posted by vorticon
chose completly random answers...came out to 119
Now... that's a complement for Weazel :)
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I did the same as AKIron. Is a score of 16-¼ low?
SOB
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Congratulations, Habu!
Your IQ score is 135
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you're equally good at mathematical and verbal tasks, and learn best through experience. But that's just scratching the surface.
I think that if you miss on question it drops you down by 2 points each time.
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Originally posted by SOB
I did the same as AKIron. Is a score of 16-¼ low?
SOB
I went through quickly picking only answers I was pretty sure to be wrong. Got a 75 and something like inquisitive investigator.
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Congratulations, Bob!
Your IQ score is 140
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you're equally good at mathematical and verbal tasks, and learn best through experience. But that's just scratching the surface.
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all wrong answers = 75
sayings aren't common sense ones, they're logic.
Even the "Truly wise man knows that he knows nothing"
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People who would stoop to cheat on an on-line IQ Test are pretty lame... but I'm not naming names :p
BTW my Intellectual Type is " Romantic Bowler I don't get it:confused:
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It's not time based, and you can score higher than 135. Took my time, used a calculator and a dictionary (yes, I know that's cheating) and got a 140.
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133 straight off not looking anything up. Seems to be popular along with 135.
IQ is usually aged biased, The really young get a bonus as do the really old. So I expect all those who got 140+ scores to be really old :p
It's bogus anyway. Nowhere near as comprehensive as it could/should be.
Gatso
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What's "really old"?
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131 Intellectual Type is an Insightful Linguist.
Hey it sounds flattering I'll go with it
:p :p :D
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What's "really old"?
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anyone older than me.
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And the sound of a collective Peggy Hill "Hoo-yoww!" echoes over the Internet....;)
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Congratulations, Ken!
Your IQ score is 126
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is an Insightful Linguist.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you have the natural fluency of a writer and the visual and spatial strengths of an artist. Those skills contribute to your creative and expressive mind. But that's just scratching the surface.
Quick Ma, pack the bags, we're movin to Paris and renting Ernest Hemingway's old place, I'll paint during the day and write at night, we'll be millionaires in less than a year.......:D
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Congratulations, Kelly!
Your IQ score is 136
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you're equally good at mathematical and verbal tasks, and learn best through experience.
Great another visionary philosopher! And my IQ dropped 6 points from test I took a year ago. At that rate it reach zero in, hmm 23 years :)
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Originally posted by miko2d
bounder: Heh, IQ tests are a load of bunk.
I have yet to find anyone who gives a convincing description of intelligence and then demonstrates how it can be empirically measured.
What is the most authoritatve work that you've read on the subject? Have you read "The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability (Human Evolution, Behavior, and Intelligence)" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0275961036/qid=1044388663/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-4046163-8284101?v=glance&s=books) by Arthur Jensen, 1998?
It's only $59.95 for 664 pages of a 9.5 x 6.5 inches book. Facinating reading.
miko
That is one that has escaped me. Could you fill me in with a little precis if you've read it Miko?
G๖del, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter, The User Illusion by Torre Norretanders, The Origins of Conciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes, Creativity by Dag Rommel, Prometheus rising by Robert Wilson.
These are a few of the books that have informed my opinion on the incomputability of intelligence borne of a complete inability to define said quality.
The problem: intelligence is what you think it is, whether something you say or do is intelligent or not really rather depends on your 'internal state'.
IQ tests make pinpoint observations about specific visual tasks involving reasoning and abstraction. How do you measure the IQ of blind people?
Testing for Intelligience Quotient probably can reveal differences in ability, but it is wrong to see it as an empirical measure of anything more than the subject's facility with the particular kind of test they are sitting. IMO
And yeah, this has gotta be an email harvester and sales tool.
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LOL! The firewalls here at work have blocked the site and have it categorized as "dating."
Dinger, you might be right...
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rip said..
""If Lazs is smarter than Ripsnort, and Ripsnort is smarter than Weazel, than Lazs is smarter than Weazel"
True or false? "
I allready told ya... I'm way smarter than weazel. I know I'm smarter than MT too so he either cheated or he took the 10% "minority adjustment".
I kinda cheated tho... as I had just studied for weeks for a certification exam that was 3.5 hors long and very math and chemistry intensive with some essay questions thrown in. I was in "test mode" plus... I have been told that I have a "test mentality"... in that I can usually figure out what answer they want even if I don't know that much about the subject.
lazs
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"This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a pragmatic Ahole"
can they really call me a pragmatic Ahole? Doesn't seem very nice to me.
lazs
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Congratulations, Santa!
Your IQ score is 135
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Facts Curator.
The first thing we can tell you about that is you've fed your brain a unique collection of facts and figures over the years. You've got a good hold on words and numbers. But that's just scratching the surface.
Blah blah blah. Laws of statistics would indicate that not all of us would score above 105. Yet I have still to see anyone do that. They'd have a hard time to sell their stupid test if they told people they were morons, eh?
This test is also culturally biased as well. Non English speakers will have a problem with all the 'is to blah is to bleh' and all the 'insert word here' questions. So this test is just pure roadkille. How the hell am i supposed to complete sentences I've never heard before?
And still I score 135. Pure BS. One cannot measure intelligence in a 10-15 minute test.
My IQ is above average. How much or how little I don't know, and it ceased to be important to me once I got out of my 'Im supersmart and deep and most of the rest are just plebeian fools' stint I had between 20 and 22.
Facts Curator? Wtf is that supposed to mean? :D
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I know I'm smarter than MT too so he either cheated or he took the 10% "minority adjustment".
you wish.
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Originally posted by bounder
And yeah, this has gotta be an email harvester and sales tool.
and if you gave them your real email address subtract 25 points. ;)
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bounder: That is one that has escaped me. Could you fill me in with a little precis if you've read it Miko?
Why, it's about empirically measuring intelligence, of course - that's what you've asked, right?
I will try to get to the books you've mentioned. I am not sure if I can ever believe a claim that concious thought appeared as late as 3000-4000 years ago, as Jaynes writes but stranger things were known to happen...
The Nrretranders' theme of the prevalence of "unconcious mind" hardly affects discussion of intelligence measurement anyway - concious or not does not really make a difference whether it can be measured and timed.
miko
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Originally posted by SaburoS
I doubt that vort.
Is this the same vorticon that took this very same test before?
11-01-2002:
I bumped up the Free Multiplayer thread for those that are interested in previous posts on the subject.
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A good IQ (without culture bias) will test one's ability to analyze and deduce. It will not test one's ambition, drive, willpower, and/or discipline which are far more important to one's employment/financial success. Doesn't test one's "luck" either.
saburo i was joking that first time...didnt you see the |rolleyes| as for this time i chose random numbers to see how different an answer i would get...
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Originally posted by miko2d
... I am not sure if I can ever believe a claim that conscious thought appeared as late as 3000-4000 years ago, as Jaynes writes but stranger things were known to happen...
this is an obvious crap. 4000 years ago humans have build a very sophisticated civilizations. Pyramids are older than 2000 BC.
Who made this statement?
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"insightful linguist"?? did anyone else get "insightful linguist"??
I guess they mean I'm a roadkillter but that i have your number?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
"insightful linguist"?? did anyone else get "insightful linguist"??
I guess they mean I'm a roadkillter but that i have your number?
lazs
Not sure Lazs...
I had a woman call me a talented linguist, but I think that was in regards to something else.
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I've been called a "cunning linguist" ;)
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Originally posted by miko2d
bounder: That is one that has escaped me. Could you fill me in with a little precis if you've read it Miko?
Why, it's about empirically measuring intelligence, of course - that's what you've asked, right?
I will try to get to the books you've mentioned. I am not sure if I can ever believe a claim that concious thought appeared as late as 3000-4000 years ago, as Jaynes writes but stranger things were known to happen...
The Nrretranders' theme of the prevalence of "unconcious mind" hardly affects discussion of intelligence measurement anyway - concious or not does not really make a difference whether it can be measured and timed.
miko
Hmm, I was hoping for a little more detail on that Jensen number than a description. Like is it possible to sum up, in even a long way, his definition of intelligence? I'm assuming, from the title he's talking about measuring mental ability: is that the same as intelligence?
The reason I ask is because every definition of intelligence that I hear is different, so measuring it ought to be a tricky proposition unless its framed in context (i.e ability on spatio-visual tests, human empathy tests, etc.)
Does Jenses frame his definition of intelligence in strict context or is he after an holistic definition that is all encompassing and does not need complicated balancing for age/ability/culture etc.?
If so what is his strict context? What is the g of the title?
Well I think the Norretanders outlook is quite interesting if you apply it to intelligence. In some cases it would be possible to argue that the conscious mind is actually quite stupid, and the rest of it is quite a bit more intelligent. Regardless of the incomputabilty of consciousness and hence intelligence.
Jaynes case kinda supports that of Norretanders, in that we do many things quite unconsciously much better than we do when thinking about them. Although that's where he starts out from. Where he ends up is indeed a refreshing take on the origins of conciousness.
IMO Intelligence is a quality of the human mind that we all recognise and yet are unable to describe adequately for reasons best outlined by Hofstadter, but put simply to cogitate on intelligence is to turn the microscope in on itself.
Which is here Godel, Escher and Bach have all stepped in, showing that we can reflect these qualities of infinite regress and paradox much more clearly through maths, music and images than we can through language.
The linguistic mind is constrained or even enslaved to its own way of thought which can be easily demonstrated by one simple sentence:
This sentence is false
On the face of it, a verbal joke or silly paradox; dig deeper and you find out strange and weird things about language, consicousness and intelligence.
Oh Miko, you are going to love G๖del, Escher, Bach an eternal golden braid by D.R Hofstadter (http://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465026567/qid=1044481450/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-1120317-3191224?v=glance&s=books)
(edit- oops forgot to finish post)
if and when you get round to reading it. I am fascinated by the study of consciousness, intelligence and with it neurobiology and neurochemistry. I'm no expert, no more than an enthusiastic amateur so I will look into this Jensen book.
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Originally posted by bounder
This sentence is false
All it needs is a "." to make it valid. :p
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mmm if you say so
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I allready have 2 dates!
But I only got 104 on the test.
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133 and I'm a "...Visual Mathematician. This means that among other things, you have superior skills in mathematics and spatial reasoning."
Amazing, considering that I need a calculator to make simple sums... :D
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Congratulations, doobs!
Your IQ score is 154
This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test.
The even better news is that at Emode, we've taken your IQ test one step further. During the test, you answered four different types of questions mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We were able to analyze how you did on each set of those questions, which allows us to shed light on the way your brain uniquely functions.
Took test drunk, didn't know I was this smart my paycheck doesn't show it. Maybe Emode will hire me.
Just wondering if thats my score or the proof of the liqour im drinking.;)
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I gotta negative score and a note for my keeper.
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Congratulations Wpn
Your IQ score is 5
Boy are you dumb.
The even better news is that at least you're not a geek like weazel and could surely kick his a## (just kidding ---------- maybe:)
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133 with Facts Curator as my intellectual type.
LMAO Hangtime :D
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"Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale" and certain other approved tests are a measure of IQ, webpages and certain organizations (ex. MENSA) obviously measure something else :-) Why don't we all head over to the "Calculate your potential pen*s length" webpage? :D
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I scored a 163 on Emode's IQ Test!
Really tough to handle a computer keyboard, calculator, dictionary, thesaurus, and encyclopedias all at one time. Do they give bonus points for that?
Shuckins
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Heheh yah Shuckins, easy to cheat on it.
I tried to be honest - did it in 10-15 minutes without using anything. But it's pretty easy to cheat on online IQ tests. And they're really not worth toejame.
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This is a stupid test.
Answering that ANLDEGN is a "state" scores 2 points less that "country".
But everyone knows that England is a state of Great Brittain.
Even if this is not the case a test that requires knowledge is not an intelligence test.
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mietla: this is an obvious crap. 4000 years ago humans have build a very sophisticated civilizations. Pyramids are older than 2000 BC.
While I do not agree with it myself, it is far from obvious and definitely not crap. Jaynes is a great writer with an unusual - for a layman - approach.
99.99% of you thinking is not concious. You have solution pop up in your mind and then you conciously explain it but that was not the way you came to it most of the time.
Consiousness - or rather "self-conciousness" is a tiny piece that does not do much other than observe things happening with the rest of the mind while it has no idea how it's operating. That consious part is really quite stupid - as bounder mentions, while the unconcious one is capable of genious.
So humans could arguably have built great things without self-consiousness.
Does Jenses frame his definition of intelligence in strict context or is he after an holistic definition that is all encompassing and does not need complicated balancing for age/ability/culture etc.?
Jencen does not try to ultimately define 'g' - but rather treats it as a discoved cathegory which is yet to be made sence of. We knew there was moon in the sky way before we knew for sure what it was. We saw it effect on light, on tides, etc. but untill telescopes were developed we just speculated.
Jencen notes that there are not abilities requiring mental activity - concious and not - that would not be positively corellated.
So the idea is that there may be an underlying cause for it. Of course correllation does not mean causality, so he comes up with biological underpinninngs and tests them and they also happen corellate with exibited abilities - any kind of them.
That is a very rough idea.
Anyway, I am not sure at all "Jencen's" outlook conflicts with any of the other guys - mental ability, wether concious or not certainly depends on the quality of hardware it is running on - neural condictivity, degree of myelination, neuron branhcing, etc.
Basically, intelligence and abilities are not pieces of software running separately from each other on a generic piece of hardware but a much more interdependent system.
Whether you agree with Jencen or not, it is the ultimate expression of "more-nature-rather-than-nurture" school for a layman.
miko