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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: john9001 on February 04, 2003, 08:22:26 PM
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some people keep posting that the F-22 will cost $200 million per plane , this is what i found
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Gibbons, a member of the House Armed Services Committee and an RF-4C pilot during the Persian Gulf War, said a second benefit of 750 F-22s is that a larger buy "would slash the F-22's flyaway cost to about $74 million per aircraft — about the same cost as an F-15." According to a staffer in Gibbons' office, that cost figure was validated by both the Air Force and Lockheed and reflects the economies of scale a larger purchase would create.
A year ago, in constant 2000 dollars, the F-22 was estimated to have a flyaway cost of $83.6 million, according to service data based on a 339-aircraft purchase. This figure does not include research, development or support costs.
Also, Gibbons wrote, a larger purchase would allow the Air Force to replace both the F-15 and F-117 aircraft with the F-22, while reallocating "F-16 Block 50 aircraft to Guard and Reserve forces . . . effectively replacing three airframes with one." Both Hawley and the Gibbons staffer noted the ability to replace multiple aircraft with the F-22 would yield additional benefits because one aircraft means simplified logistical plans and lower operating and support costs.
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http://www.f22-raptor.com/index0.html
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Yep. Finish the F-22 and the JSF projects and we are set for fighters for a long time.
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Now if we only had an enemy that had modern aircraft...
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Gripen is a fine plane, but Tunnan (the barrel) looks cooler.
F22 is a beautiful aircraft too, but $74 million? phew, that's not going to leave much change out of my defence budget.
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Wasn't it "tunnan" who first managed to get a missile lock on a stealth bomber?
Anyway, the Swedes are selling the Gripen all over, so there is a good chance that the F22 will have to face it. Hmm, that would be a dogfight worth seeing ;)
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Originally posted by Angus
Wasn't it "tunnan" who first managed to get a missile lock on a stealth bomber?
Anyway, the Swedes are selling the Gripen all over, so there is a good chance that the F22 will have to face it. Hmm, that would be a dogfight worth seeing ;)
Really? Can you point me more towards that story Angus. would like to know more!
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Originally posted by john9001
..."would slash the F-22's flyaway cost to about $74 million per aircraft — about the same cost as an F-15."
Don't know much about the F-22's cost, but I work at a F-15C squadron, and I can tell you that one of those jets is worth $34M, not $74M. I think the E models run around $45M. Not that many people probably care.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Now if we only had an enemy that had modern aircraft...
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
We hate fair fights.
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Its time to upgrade, regardless of the cost...the development monies have been spent, let's just do it. The F-15 came out in 1974 (I think...that's what my book says...could be wrong) and there are countless other aging airframes that need to be replaced as well. KC-135s are coming up on the 50 year mark soon, and those are very important for any deployment.
Oddly enough, I beleive the A-10 is the USAF's "newest" fighter.
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"Nova" had a show about the JSF competition between Boeing and Lockheed. Both were incredible planes.
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I dislike the idea of a JSF..and I think the plane is 'UGLY'
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Now if we only had an enemy that had modern aircraft...
I understood the dry humor, David. ;)
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
I dislike the idea of a JSF..and I think the plane is 'UGLY'
You're thinking of Boeings design, which didn't win the contract. The current JSF design that won is based partly on the F-22 airframe.
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Still ugly as sin.. Rip.