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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Citabria on June 12, 2000, 06:57:00 AM
its pretty much an easy mode feature for all tailwheel aircraft in aces high.

during landin with the brakes on you cant nose the plane over at all.


perfectly level always.

its an easy mode help I dont need and I dont want.



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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Sharky on June 12, 2000, 07:16:00 AM
Cit,

As soon as the braking on the Mustang and a couple of others are fixed and we get ajustable braking power, I agree.

Sharky

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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 12, 2000, 07:26:00 AM
When I land, and I'm rolling on the runway, I apply full back pressure and then I brake while still maintening the full back pressure. Doing so, the tail wheel doesn't even take off from the ground till a full stop.
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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: juzz on June 12, 2000, 08:09:00 AM
I'd rather see the takeoffs fixed first. Full power takeoffs in the Spitfire using only trim, uh huh... and the G-10 too, with WEP on...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Beefcake on June 12, 2000, 08:10:00 AM
Hehehehe thats funny, most of the time my tailwheel doesn't make it.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Sharky on June 12, 2000, 08:45:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy:
When I land, and I'm rolling on the runway, I apply full back pressure and then I brake while still maintening the full back pressure. Doing so, the tail wheel doesn't even take off from the ground till a full stop.

Frenchy,

Try that with the Mustang.  Even when slowed to 10 mph there is no way to get the tail to sit down, with the exception of tapping on the space bar like your sending morse code at one hundred words per min and even then the tail bounces with every tap.

One other plane I've flown does this also I think it's the Spit IX.  The rest are fine, set her down in a nice three point attitude and maintain back pressure and the tail wheel will stay down on the roll out.

Sharky



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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: -lynx- on June 12, 2000, 09:46:00 AM
Toe-brakes anyone? CH Pro Pedals support it...

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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 12, 2000, 05:07:00 PM
Sharky, I just tried it with the pony and you right, keeping full back pressure still doesn't work, I need to play piano with the space bar.
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Soda on June 12, 2000, 05:19:00 PM
Should I ask how fast you are going when you land. I've helped a couple of people in the training arena with this problem.  Typically they are just coming in to land too fast, gear creaking, slamming the bird on the runway and slamming on the brakes.  Try slowing down the approach a bit and get some nose up alt with lots of flaps.  You can then use a little back-pull in the stick to plant the tail and make the nose stay up while applying all the brakes you want.

Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Citabria on June 12, 2000, 05:54:00 PM
If youve landed in Warbirds real mode you know what I'm Talking about.


they have a brake pressure scale that can be adjusted


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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 12, 2000, 06:32:00 PM
Soda, I've the film if u want, I come in, float just over the runway at a ldg height and lat the plane 'stall' on the runway, so I touch down 100-110. Usually when I touch down it's the 3 wheels at the same time and I'm almost already full back pressure.
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Soda on June 12, 2000, 07:47:00 PM
I don't not believe you Frenchy... just never had that myself.

Soda
Sturm Crows
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: SOB on June 12, 2000, 08:13:00 PM
Soda,

Yeah...just land in a P51 - the tailwheel will be off the ground until you come to a complete stop, at which time your ass-end will come crashing down and bust it off... unless you morse-code the brake key as suggested earlier!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)


SOB
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Lizard3 on June 12, 2000, 08:48:00 PM
You guys land these things? With wheels down to boot? Wow, whata concept!


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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Sharky on June 12, 2000, 10:01:00 PM
Hi all,

What I'm talking about has got to be a bug with the Mustang.  I've tried to explain this to HT online one time, but I'm sure he didn't realise that I know how to land a plane (at least in flight sims anyway  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)) and thought I was just whining.  Any way I know that at least one other plane does it too, I'm pretty sure it's one of the Spitfires.  Spitfire drivers??  Anyone Anyone??

Sharky

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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: bloom25 on June 13, 2000, 02:27:00 AM
I've mentioned that p51 landing bug a couple times myself.  You can get the tailwheel to come off the ground at 2 mph by hitting the brakes.  The only way to keep from breaking off the tailwheel is to press that spacebar as fast as you can.



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Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Soulyss on June 13, 2000, 04:24:00 AM
if you try to take off in the Typhoon and hold the wheel brakes and give her full throttle you end up in a three point stance with your prop chewing concrete  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).  
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Sparks on June 13, 2000, 08:06:00 AM
Spit Driver here,
Spit 9 does exactly the same thing - any touch of the brakes above walking pace lifts the tail. I usually land fully stalled 3 point stick back and then tap the brake key very slightly and regularly to stop.
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: JimBear on June 13, 2000, 08:46:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by -lynx-:
Toe-brakes anyone? CH Pro Pedals support it...


I have seen this posted before, would you please tell me what the setup is to make this happen? I have the CH Pro Pedals and would luv to use that.
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Westy on June 13, 2000, 09:10:00 AM
 JimBear, I may be wrong but I believe even with the superb CH Pro pedals (which I have too) the Toe brakes work if the switch is thrown on the base for use as gas/brake liek and automobile or as rudders if used in an aircraft. I'm not sure but we can't have both actions. Although I REALLY wish we could!
 If we can then I have something set up wrong and would love to fix my setup somehow.

 -Westy
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: MANDOBLE on June 13, 2000, 09:41:00 AM
Westy, I have the same pedals, no way to control them in both modes at the same time.
Title: option to turn off the braking limiter that keeps you from nosing over
Post by: Lizard3 on June 13, 2000, 04:23:00 PM
The pro peds being 3 axis, could you map each of the toe brake axis to the differential brake keys, C and V I believe?