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Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Toad on February 06, 2003, 05:37:54 PM

Hi all,

Running W98SE and was using the onboard sound on my Gigabyte 7VAX board. Not too happy with that eventually as it seemed in "lotsa sound" environments (like 9 buffs dropping 100 lbs all at once) my sound went bad and frames slowed.

Just put in a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz and initally it was on the same IRQ as the vid card. Even I know that's not a good thing.

So I moved it a slot and this is what the IRQ's look like now.

Any of you pros seem problems that I should try to fix?

I know in the Control Panel/System you can try to change resources but not all of them give you that option.  The only PCI card in this box is the Santa Cruz. Video is AGP. No other boards as NIC and stuff are built in the Gigabyte.

Thanks in advance.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Skuzzy on February 06, 2003, 06:06:25 PM

Your video card is sharing with your USB bus.  Could cause video stutters and stick spiking, if you are using a USB stick.

Your sound card is sharing with your Ethernet card.  This is going to cause problems.

Do you have anything connected to the COM or LPT ports?  If not, go into the BIOS and disable those devices so you can free up some interrupts.
Then you might have to manually set the IRQ's to the PCI slots, but if your PCI slots are hardwired to a shared interrupt, you will have to move the cards around to get them on thier own.

When moving cards in the PCI slots, make sure you remove the associated software from Windows FIRST, then shutdown the computer, move the card, and reboot.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: bloom25 on February 06, 2003, 11:54:35 PM

I'd move either the sound card or the NIC to IRQ 5.  (IMO the sound card.)

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Toad on February 07, 2003, 12:39:02 AM

Well, the NIC is built into the MB and it won't allow a change of the IRQ in the System/Properties/Resources area.

I'm going to move the Sound Card yet again, but NONE of the PCI slots use IRQ 5 apparently.

Will let you know how it goes.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Eagler on February 07, 2003, 11:17:57 AM

why does the usb controller grab two IRQ's? Are you using four USB ports? If not disable one of them- if you are disable one of them and go buy a powered USB hub.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Eagler on February 07, 2003, 12:11:28 PM

In the BIOS, you can manually set an IRQ to a PCI slot (take it off off auto and choose 5) then place the sound card there.

slot 1 and slot 5 share resources so not a good choice there

try slot 2,3 or 4

see p47 in your manual

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Toad on February 07, 2003, 09:29:28 PM

I did select IRQ 5 in the bios for the slot the card is in but after reboot it still shows 5 free and the sound card on 11.

It's as if the BIOS change isn't taking hold.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: 38ruk on February 07, 2003, 10:07:10 PM

disable com 1&2 go in bios and set irqs manually ,also if u dont use a printer disable ltp1

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Pongo on February 08, 2003, 12:50:01 AM

looks like I might know why I get periodic AH crashes then.
my radeon, my 3com etherlink card and part of my USB system are all on irq16

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: qts on February 08, 2003, 03:50:33 AM

Are you using ACPI, Toad?

I agree with disabling legacy serial and parallel ports. Here's my IRQ list


Resource   Device   Status   
IRQ 9   Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System   OK   
IRQ 16   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200   OK   
IRQ 14   Primary IDE Channel   OK   
IRQ 5   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 5   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 17   Creative SB Live! Value (WDM)   OK   
IRQ 17   3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI TX NIC (3C905B-TX)   OK   
IRQ 18   Lucent QuadraBus USB Open Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 18   Lucent QuadraBus USB Open Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 18   Lucent QuadraBus USB Open Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 18   Lucent QuadraBus USB Open Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 18   HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller   OK   
IRQ 0   System timer   OK   
IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK   
IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK   
IRQ 6   Standard floppy disk controller   OK   
IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard   OK   


BTW There's no need to attach a graphic: you can run WINMSD and generate a report.

IRQs above 15 are virtual, so may or may not be really shared.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Eagler on February 08, 2003, 09:22:40 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Toad
I did select IRQ 5 in the bios for the slot the card is in but after reboot it still shows 5 free and the sound card on 11.

It's as if the BIOS change isn't taking hold.

is the irq set on the card ie jumper?

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Pongo on February 08, 2003, 11:49:49 AM

heres mine

Resource   Device   Status   
IRQ 9   Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System   OK   
IRQ 16   RADEON 8500/RADEON 8500LE   OK   
IRQ 16   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 16   3Com 3CSOHO Fast Ethernet Adapter   OK   
IRQ 19   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 10   Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller   OK   
IRQ 18   Creative SB Live! series   OK   
IRQ 0   System timer   OK   
IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK   
IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK   
IRQ 6   Standard floppy disk controller   OK   
IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard   OK   
IRQ 12   PS/2 Compatible Mouse   OK   
IRQ 14   Primary IDE Channel   OK   
IRQ 15   Secondary IDE Channel   OK   
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK   
IRQ 21   VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller   OK   

I tried to set my slot 2(where the ethernet card is) to irq 3 wich I had freed up by disabling my 2 com ports..
But no luck, its still on 16.
Is that an side effect of ACPI? Can it be disabled? Can I remove specific cards from the auto assign?

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: bloom25 on February 08, 2003, 11:53:05 AM

Pongo, any IRQ number above 15 is not a real IRQ.  ACPI is enabled, and without reinstalling Windows there is no good way to disable it.  (I would not recommend doing so anyway.)  You must have Win2k or XP.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2003, 12:02:50 PM

Eagler,

There are jumper pins but none have a jumper on them.

The manual is non existent.

I've written tech support about selecting irq on the card.

I've moved it to 3 different slots and selected 5 but when the computer boots you can see it list the PCI devices with the sound card first and set on Irq 11.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Pongo on February 08, 2003, 01:34:05 PM

Yes. Im in Xp Bloom.
Is that conflict likley to cause my periodic dumps from Ah though?

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Eagler on February 08, 2003, 03:17:21 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Toad
Eagler,

There are jumper pins but none have a jumper on them.

The manual is non existent.

I've written tech support about selecting irq on the card.

I've moved it to 3 different slots and selected 5 but when the computer boots you can see it list the PCI devices with the sound card first and set on Irq 11.

post the model #/info on the sound card and see what i can find ...

this is after you are going into the bios and telling it what irq to assign to what pci slot?

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2003, 03:45:12 PM

Turtle Beach Santa Cruz

CN-038FRH-70650-284-CCZM  REV F00

Yes, after setting and saving the bios on boot up it lists the Sound Card in the PCI devices and shows it on IRQ 11.

Thanks.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: woodfordb on February 08, 2003, 04:19:28 PM

in your bios is there an options for "PnP OS" Yes/No.

If there is, and its set to Yes, XP & 2000 love to slam all devices on the same IRQ. Set it to no and if possible select the option to clear PNP settings next boot. This option is usualy around the same area as the PnP OS section.

Regards

Mandrill.

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2003, 05:22:36 PM

Running 98SE here.

Does this still apply?

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: Eagler on February 09, 2003, 09:49:46 AM

found a pdf manual here:

http://ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/santacru/scruzman.pdf

Is this your sound card?
It states the IRQ is allocated during the software setup of the card. Does that make sense? Can you rerun the setup program?

other download info/drivers here:
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/kb_ftp/585ftp.asp

Let you know if I find anything else..

If you have PnP OS on you can try it off, you can always turn it back on...

Title: IRQ's and Sharing
Post by: FOGOLD on February 10, 2003, 03:18:41 AM

My set up has Graphics and sound sharing with (16 & 18)  "PCI to USB Open Host Contrioller" and" PCI to USB enhanced host controller B1"

I thought this was normal??