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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 2stony on February 10, 2003, 04:01:10 PM
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I'm not the greatest pilot, so let's take that into consideration. I was flying a La-7 into A59 last night at about 10k when I notice a Ta152 on my 3 o'clock low. I roll over and move in to try and get a kill. He turns on me and I overshoot. I pull an Immellman and when I roll back over, there are two Ta152s. I try to get into position, but they both cut under me again. Now they're both chasing me on the deck. I think I pulled two more Immellmans to try and get in position without success. Anyway, they got me back down on the deck and eventually shot me down.
My question is I thought Ta152s weren't very manouverable on the deck. I don't remember who the pilot was that killed me, but his skill could have been the deciding factor. His wingman didn't miss a beat either and was right behind him. I thought the La-7 could outrun them easily on the deck, but I guess I was wrong, and I consider myself fairly good "in the weeds".
Thanks for any tips or info in advance.
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All of those immelman's must have bled your E pretty fast. The Ta-152 is IMO very maneuverable. I've underestimated them several times, and paid for it.
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All of those immelman's must have bled your E pretty fast.
I extended until I had seperation before I pulled any of the Immellmans, so I think that didn't do it. I just thought they couldn't fly that fast on the deck.
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Get rid of the wing tanks first on the 152 and its a Dora that can turn. If used correctly it is a fun ride and will surprise most. It keeps its speed going which can help it get away on the deck sometimes.
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That was Wiz and me:D i got 2 kills and wiz got 4 that run, 1st time i tryed the 152 low its awsome:cool:
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The 152 is decently fast on the deck, though it won't catch an la7.
One thing the 152 is great at is diving, it picks up speed unbelievably fast in even shallow dives.
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What was the handle of the dude that shot you? did it start with a "W" and end with a "Z"?
If that's it, look no further, I have your felon :D
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perk the ta-152!!!!!
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The Ta152 dives like a meteor, but watch those wingtips... very easy to rip them off if you pull out too hard.
-Soda
The Assassins.
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I was staying out of firing range until that last Immellman and then Bongo got to within firing range and I couldn't pull away. I will have more respect for the 152 next time. I actually hadn't encountered one since joining AH four months ago. A lesson was definately learned.
Also, a friendly was above us and I called out for help but he didn't respond(go figure).
;)
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The 152 is very maneuverable between about 250-325mph. Below that it still turns pretty well, but it doesn't accelerate very well and you're basically screwed, and above that it's easy to snap your wingtips. In a short turn the 152 can get it's nose around on a spitfire for a pretty clean shot. As for you not being able to outrun it... with wep, it's about as fast as a dora (same engine basically), and it's got a smooth airframe so it holds E very well.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
What was the handle of the dude that shot you? did it start with a "W" and end with a "Z"?
If that's it, look no further, I have your felon :D
Actually, I believe it was bongo that got 2stony, but thanks for the compliment :cool:.
Originally posted by Shane
perk the ta-152!!!!!
:eek:
I do believe its already perked :p
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Originally posted by WizOfClay
I do believe its already perked :p
triple the cost!!!
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Been flying the 152 a bit this tour. Had my engine shot out and was able to glide a little better than a full sector with 5000ft to make it to the runway. Holds E, as stated in previous posts, extreamly well.
Is a nice ride, the firepower is addicting.
Trinity is a good map for this plane, I think I've seen more 152s on the new map than I have in the last 6 months of AH.
You'll see me in this ride more often, especially when the Rooks are out numbered!!!
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Some of my squaddies flying 152's this tour. Maybe it was them.
chris3 ?
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hehehe shane, you crack me up. I love your smilies. You remind me of that kids movie Monsters Inc..... where that big Blue guys pulls all the different faces in warm up.
Scarry Scarry .. Grrrrrrrr . Bo
:) :) :mad:
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The greatest advantage the Ta-152 has is fuel endurance.
With 25% fuel you can last as long as 50% in the La7.
So you are fighting a very light bird.
Second it's e retention is the best I've seen so you may be faster but he will hold 400mph on the deck forever it seems.
If I were fighting one I would use the virtical and try to get them to loop with you in an La7 and use your superior power in the virtical.
It is a supreme machine and should not be underestimated.
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Since AH doesn't let you load x number of gallons of fuel, I wonder at what fuel load the different planes performance charts were done at?
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2stoney,
It's always tough vs a true set of wingies...vs two guys both just brawling with you. Realistically your in a tough spot...that being said I've got a couple of questions for you. You did the right thing going down to the weeds. Once your there you need to slow the fight down. Obviously there's a risk....but to win you need to suck them in and get them to waste a bit of E. Your comment that the wingie was "right behind" actually gave you a bit more of a chance...I think two E fighters in a "welded wing" style are easier than a high/low or other type of loose duece. Basically...you need to force an overshoot on the lead and see what the trail does...if he goes high to deny the overshoot I'd pull back up into him and go for a spiral climb if you can or pull thru into astraight reverse. The la7 will easily outclimb or accelerate the 152 down low. The 152 doesnt really find it's zone til 17k or so.