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Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Hangtime on February 11, 2003, 05:34:19 PM
Just heard on CNN the capitol is preparing for air attack.

Did I get an ailen anal probe and wake up in an oddly changed parallel reality?
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: bounder on February 11, 2003, 05:35:11 PM
Festival of Eid is ending, Hajj is in full swing - ragheads up to no good, everyone jumpy.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on February 11, 2003, 05:40:59 PM
I thought the same thing this morning when I was listening to the radio about Police Officers (or was it SWAT guys?) armed with German made sub machine guns. (At first I could of sworn I heard MP50s)

Although I am convinced I was abducted by aliens and given an anal probe, I don't want to believe any other explanation for why my bellybutton hurts.
-SW
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: OIO on February 11, 2003, 05:52:45 PM
aperture fever again wulf? ;) :D
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 11, 2003, 05:53:26 PM
Does your pillow smell funny?
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Hangtime on February 11, 2003, 06:14:26 PM
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Does your pillow smell funny?


that got the cat soused in nasal filtered dewars.

pardon me, i've gotta go to a hopsital...
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Airscrew on February 11, 2003, 06:23:49 PM
Pay backs a squeak ain't it Hang:D
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Replicant on February 12, 2003, 04:24:13 AM
450 personnel, light tanks, etc. were mobilised to Heathrow Airport after a tip off regarding the same sort of thing - end of raghead festival or whatever.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Eagler on February 12, 2003, 07:01:38 AM
dowding don't like it when you call those "misunderstood" arabic "gentlemen" - ragheads :)

end of their latest raghead holiday or 1st move in our assult on saddumb - defend against raghead retailation

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end of raghead holiday

end of cooler weather in raghead vill

OBL hits the airwaves in his address to the raghead nation

color Orange alert status
 
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shite about to hit the fan fellows
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Replicant on February 12, 2003, 07:30:51 AM
In the UK the latest terrorism threats are thought to be the Government scaremongering the public into being sympathetic towards the need of war.  Very interesting indeed!  I haven't been at work so I don't know if the military alert has upped as well...
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Dowding on February 12, 2003, 07:47:22 AM
cupcake, gook, raghead, untermenschen - they're all the same to me. The words of a mindless fool unable to cope with the concept of individuality.

Carry on plodding through your black and white world.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: bounder on February 12, 2003, 07:48:27 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
dowding don't like it when you call those "misunderstood" arabic "gentlemen" - ragheads :)



It was a thought experiment, putting myself in the shoes of British 'intelligence'. Raghead is quite a common term of abuse of Arabs by the British Foreign & Commonwealth Office, so I thought the use of the argot would further heighten the humorous intent of my post amongst British naysayers.:D

Personally I think the 'arab world' have still contributed more to the world than they have detracted from it, if such a measurement can be made.

On a more serious note, I don't doubt that real information has led to the current hike in the state of alert.

I'm hoping it's a false alarm. The military and police are concentrating on flightpaths into heathrow, talk is of a SAM attack rather than a hijack.

Unlikely it has anything to do with Iraq however.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Eagler on February 12, 2003, 08:20:57 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
cupcake, gook, raghead, untermenschen - they're all the same to me. The words of a mindless fool unable to cope with the concept of individuality.

Carry on plodding through your black and white world.


Same to me too ...

I don't have a problem calling an arabic terrorist a raghead
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Dowding on February 12, 2003, 08:31:39 AM
Aaaah, that's right... all those on the Hajj are Arabic terrorists!

You wrote it Eagler - 'End of Raghead holiday'.

Better watch it, Eagler. Your true colours are showing.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 12, 2003, 09:20:24 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Aaaah, that's right... all those on the Hajj are Arabic terrorists!
 


They may not all be terrorists, but anyone who will stand in a line of 2 million people to throw a couple pebbles at a rock and is willing to be trampled in the process has a screw or two loose.

You seem to be a very understanding individual Dawding, and Im sure that the fine fundamentalist people of the Middle East would recognize this and draw a distiction between the "good" Brits and the "bad" Brits.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Pollock on February 12, 2003, 09:28:01 AM
Ahh yes the peacful religon of Islam.  I heard a report that something like 14 people were trampled to death at the point where all thes friggin ragheads go to pray.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Dowding on February 12, 2003, 09:28:39 AM
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They may not all be terrorists, but anyone who will stand in a line of 2 million people to throw a couple pebbles at a rock and is willing to be trampled in the process has a screw or two loose.


Well, when people queue for hours to see the Pope or visit Lourdes or bathe in the Ganges, I think pretty much the same thing. It's called a religious rite. All religions have strange superstitions... it kind of goes with the territory. Each to their own.

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You seem to be a very understanding individual Dawding, and Im sure that the fine fundamentalist people of the Middle East would recognize this and draw a distiction between the "good" Brits and the "bad" Brits.


I don't see what your point is. That we should stop seeing Muslims as individuals that might not actually be terrorist fundamentalists and instead view them all as little Satans... because they don't see us as inidviduals and views us all as little Satans?

Yeah. Okaaaay...
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Monk on February 12, 2003, 09:33:06 AM
Little Satans?
what a ripoff, I thought we were  BIG Satans.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 12, 2003, 01:38:49 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding

I don't see what your point is. That we should stop seeing Muslims as individuals that might not actually be terrorist fundamentalists and instead view them all as little Satans... because they don't see us as inidviduals and views us all as little Satans?
 


No, my point is that while you are busy drawing disctintions between fundamentalist and moderate Islamic groups (which is a good thing - cant judge anyone by the group... except France) and defending their actions - have you considered that the average Muslim/Arab on the street in Saudi Arabia/Iraq/Iran/etc etc etc doesnt make that distinction?  Those that lack the education to know any better understand the "West" to be the reason they need to toejam in their backyard instead of in a toilet.

Quite simply, the lower class, uneducated individuals in the countries in question there dont like you.  Period.  They dont care what nice things you have to say about them and they dont care how opposed to an invasion of Iraq you may be.  You are a godless, money worshipping Westerner and you are attempting to destroy their way of life and infuse fast food restaraunts, CocaCola, and Malboro cigarettes in the place of Mosques, prayer centers, and sand dunes.

The people we're discussing here arent interested in sitting down with you and discussing your respective differences.  They want to cause you and your families harm, and the sooner that the "feel good" crowd wakes up and realizes this, the better off we (you and I, since you'll ask) will be.
Title: Stereo typing
Post by: medicboy on February 12, 2003, 01:53:11 PM
I have a point about calling all people of middle eastern decent "ragheads":

I sure as hell don't want to be put in the same group as some of the people in this country much less this state (its full of liberal pukes) and I'm sure there are people in the middle east that don't want to be put in the same group as the terrorist.

1 more point, what about that Jonny Jihad dude.  White guy raised in the Bay area suburb, was captured in that prison uprising in A-stan where the CIA guy was killed?

Your enemy may look like your friend and your friend may look like your enemy, sometimes the only way you know is by which direction their gun is pointing when the shooting starts. Lets not make this a race war, its about much more than birth place.
Title: Re: Stereo typing
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 12, 2003, 03:37:50 PM
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Originally posted by medicboy


 raised in the Bay area suburb


Thats the problem right there.  :D
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Hangtime on February 12, 2003, 03:47:56 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
No, my point is that while you are busy drawing disctintions between fundamentalist and moderate Islamic groups (which is a good thing - cant judge anyone by the group... except France) and defending their actions - have you considered that the average Muslim/Arab on the street in Saudi Arabia/Iraq/Iran/etc etc etc doesnt make that distinction?  Those that lack the education to know any better understand the "West" to be the reason they need to toejam in their backyard instead of in a toilet.

Quite simply, the lower class, uneducated individuals in the countries in question there dont like you.  Period.  They dont care what nice things you have to say about them and they dont care how opposed to an invasion of Iraq you may be.  You are a godless, money worshipping Westerner and you are attempting to destroy their way of life and infuse fast food restaraunts, CocaCola, and Malboro cigarettes in the place of Mosques, prayer centers, and sand dunes.

The people we're discussing here arent interested in sitting down with you and discussing your respective differences.  They want to cause you and your families harm, and the sooner that the "feel good" crowd wakes up and realizes this, the better off we (you and I, since you'll ask) will be.


Amen!
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Hortlund on February 12, 2003, 03:52:59 PM
Brilliant post Saurdaukar.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Wlfgng on February 12, 2003, 03:57:39 PM
good point medicboy
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: bounder on February 12, 2003, 04:16:02 PM
Quite simply, the lower class, uneducated individuals in the country in question there dont like you. Period. They dont care what nice things you have to say about them and they dont care how opposed to an invasion of Iraq you may be. You are a godless, idol worshipping Arab and you are attempting to destroy their way of life and infuse Muezzins, Camels, and Hubbly bubblies in the place of McDonalds, Cars, and Marlboro Lights.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Eagler on February 12, 2003, 04:19:01 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Aaaah, that's right... all those on the Hajj are Arabic terrorists!

You wrote it Eagler - 'End of Raghead holiday'.

Better watch it, Eagler. Your true colours are showing.


LOL

yep: Red, White and Blue

what's ur color?
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Hortlund on February 12, 2003, 04:30:10 PM
It must be yellow...I think that's pretty obvious...
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Airhead on February 12, 2003, 04:38:33 PM
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Originally posted by bounder
Quite simply, the lower class, uneducated individuals in the country in question there dont like you. Period.  


And likewise the lower class, uneducated individuals on this bulletin board don't like Arabs any more than the lower class, uneducated Arabs like them.

I guess that makes you even.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: midnight Target on February 12, 2003, 04:48:29 PM
I wonder how many of the 2 million were uneducated and poor. My guess is that it costs money to make the Haje and that a large percentage of those people may even have educations and jobs.

Your post was eloquent Sar, but you start out saying generalization is wrong then you generalize. Whether or not the poor arab who looks up to Osama makes a distinction between liberal or conservative is irrelevant.

We should not use that person as the yardstick for our own behavior.

Calling the Haje(sp?) a "Raghead Holiday" is just wrong.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Eagler on February 12, 2003, 04:58:34 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Calling the Haje(sp?) a "Raghead Holiday" is just wrong.


give me a break...

those of you with your underwear in a knot about what I & others call a raghead holy day don't think twice about slamming this country's major religion, Christianity, its traditions, holidays and teachings..

blow it out ur arse .. pls
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: midnight Target on February 12, 2003, 05:01:17 PM
You go look real hard and find any time where I slammed Christianity....
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: lord dolf vader on February 12, 2003, 05:21:06 PM
weak.

all that hate gonna burn you up man.

"not aimed at midnight target "
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Duedel on February 12, 2003, 05:41:55 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
And likewise the lower class, uneducated individuals on this bulletin board don't like Arabs any more than the lower class, uneducated Arabs like them.

I guess that makes you even.


:D :D :D
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Airhead on February 12, 2003, 06:14:30 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
give me a break...

those of you with your underwear in a knot about what I & others call a raghead holy day don't think twice about slamming this country's major religion, Christianity, its traditions, holidays and teachings..

blow it out ur arse .. pls



I nominate Eagler for the Red Herring Post of the Year Award.

How in the Hell he can claim that using racist and derrorigotory names for various ethnic groups is somehow Christian is an insult to Christians. Read the Bible, Eagler- there's no mention of "ragheads," "gooks" or "cupcakes" there.

LOL Damn, bud- that's just about the dumbest thing I heard all day. :)
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Eagler on February 12, 2003, 07:47:58 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
I nominate Eagler for the Red Herring Post of the Year Award.

How in the Hell he can claim that using racist and derrorigotory names for various ethnic groups is somehow Christian is an insult to Christians. Read the Bible, Eagler- there's no mention of "ragheads," "gooks" or "cupcakes" there.

LOL Damn, bud- that's just about the dumbest thing I heard all day. :)




never said it was Christian, but pls continue to twist my words to try and make a point - whatever that point maybe.

maybe just me but I've never placed "raghead" in the same class/level as your other two. There are much worse words/terms which I'd never use which some use to describe middle eastern types... maybe you can type those out for us too
:rolleyes:
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Airhead on February 12, 2003, 09:12:37 PM
HEY! Don't you roll your eyes at ME Young Lady! I am STILL the Dad, and you are STILL the KID!! If I say to be home by eleven I... Oh, wait a minute...I'm talking to Eagler, not my teenage daughter. Sorry Eagler, when you roll your eyes like that you look just like my daughter. :)

First of all, thank you for being so "politically correct" by using the term "raghead" instead of some more insensitive term for Middle Eastern people. Your sensitivity to people of color is duly noted. As far as me typing even worse names for Arabic people, sorry, but I haven't attended my clan meetings often enough to learn the new terminology for Arabs. Since you started with racially stereotyping names I'll leave it up to you to let us in on the latest derrogotory names for Arabs.

OK, I stand corrected- using racially insensitive names isn't Christian- it's patriotic. Oh well, at least now I understand why the rest of the world fears us more than they do Iraq or North Korea... thanks for the insight. :rolleyes:

Oh...and that was STILL the dumbest post I read all day. Sorry.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Fridaddy on February 12, 2003, 09:17:47 PM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
(At first I could of sworn I heard MP50s)

-SW



I am sure it was a typo, but they are MP-5s

Personaly I think they are OK, but you cannot beat a UMP, or a Thompson.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: john9001 on February 12, 2003, 09:29:54 PM
"""racially insensitive names """


god , i love this new PC world we live in.


i prefer not to bring race into it , i just call them "bloody butchers of innocent women and children"
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Airhead on February 12, 2003, 10:46:40 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
"""racially insensitive names """


god , i love this new PC world we live in.


i prefer not to bring race into it , i just call them "bloody butchers of innocent women and children"


How would you describe it John? "racially insensitive names" might even be sugarcoating it, but I felt like calling someone a racist for using the term "raghead" was a bit too strong. Anyway Eagler isn't a racist, he's actually a pretty decent guy based upon his posting.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Hangtime on February 12, 2003, 10:48:03 PM
I'm a racist. Everywhere I go, I wanna be first.
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Dowding on February 18, 2003, 03:40:32 AM
Nice one, Hortlund. Where you from again?

Saudaurkar - so we should view all Muslims as extremists?
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Monk on February 18, 2003, 04:23:09 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I'm a racist. Everywhere I go, I wanna be first.

I'm not. I dislike everyone equally.
Title: hmm....
Post by: Golfer on February 18, 2003, 06:13:56 AM
"there is no racial bigotry here..."

"...you are all equally worthless."

R. Lee Ermey as Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann, Full Metal Jacket.


I may not share that exact view, and also do my very very best not to group folks into one pool or another.  And its not really a bad idea to do the same.  Here's why:

As of late i have been trying to decide and understand why someone would take on a mission that will result with 100% efficency their death.  Reading documents including Diaries, and interviews with kamakazie pilots, and even german and russian suicide pilots (i saw a promo piece for something on the history channel that will air this week i believe, dont have lots of time to watch t.v.) and their reasons for taking on said mission.

In a nearly 100% concensus, these individuals (men and women, some may know while most do not there was a german female squadron commander and test pilot for suicide planes [hows that for a job??] named Hannah Reich) had a total committment to their cause.  Most people today havent any clue what that kind of conviction feels like, to feel so strongly for a cause you will strap on an airplane, or the cheaper method of a bomb, and set out to do the most damage with little more than a will to die.  Some of you  may have seen this in Vietnam, where sappers were used (though i do not know to what extent, and have no figures) to blow up command tents, and ammo bunkers.  Others, we read about it in the newspaper about the Palestine and Isreali situation thats been ongoing since the dawn of their respective religions.  While all (and i have no doubt that all reading this post) have witnessed either firsthand or via video the September 11th attacks.  Its insane to us, and to me as well which is why I am trying to learn why they do it to maybe even take away that cause.  Very few if any of you myself included, have ever felt such conviction to a cause to resort to such an action (or be as heroic, as they see themselves).  What needs to be looked into is how to take the romance, if you will, out of being a suicide soldier (of whatever cause) and convey it as an act of hopelessness whos mere implication or indoctrinaion only solidifies one's own causes defeat.  A counterargument is "well if they're defeated, die fighting" or "take as many out with me as possible".  While that may ring true with many cases, for example if the enemy of the suicide soldier's cause was some sort of evil regime.  What is our responsibility to convey is that we aren't some evil force hell bent on conquering the world through military means.  We believe in making money, saving lives, and feeling good about ourselves.  I firmly believe that we as Americans would use our right to take our grievances to our government and if necessary impeach (yup, we Americans can civilly oust our leaders without a military coux) the president at the time if he wanted to steer America on the manifest destiny from hell.  If we were given a chance, I think that what we would do (sticking to the Make money, save lives, and patting ourselves on the back) is somehow devise a way to democritize these countries and use the resources available to get them working to a greater good (i think i heard the response World Peace at the miss usa pageant, can anyone confirm?).

I'll just say that I as an American, and can and will speak for every American (ready your flamethrowers gents, and i'll break out the marshmallows) and say...

"I have no interest in making any other country an exclave of the United States, Enslaving any other cultures, or taking any Imperialistic measures in order to expand the United States."

laymans terms...

"I don't want your land, your god, or your home"

(Vote USgolfer, 2020)
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 18, 2003, 11:49:58 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding

Saudaurkar - so we should view all Muslims as extremists?


Dawding - do you think we should send over a few UN inspectors to sort out of "good" from the "bad?"
Title: Hummvees w/ stingers deployed around washington
Post by: Dowding on February 18, 2003, 03:24:08 PM
Golfer

In other words the answer is 'yes, all Muslims should be viewed as extremists - ergo they are extremists' , Saudaurkar?