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Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Animal on February 11, 2003, 08:18:42 PM: Get it from majorgeeks.com if you can

my score is a puny 1,600

it looks AMAZING. And as a treat for us, part of the benchmark is a scene of 109's attacking a formation of B-17 and ponies.
In demo mode, it is quite simply the most beautiful WWII combat graphics I have ever seen displayed in real time and not pre-rendered.
Title: Re: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Eagler on February 11, 2003, 09:08:10 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Animal
Get it from majorgeeks.com if you can

my score is a puny 1,600

it looks AMAZING. And as a treat for us, part of the benchmark is a scene of 109's attacking a formation of B-17 and ponies.
In demo mode, it is quite simply the most beautiful WWII combat graphics I have ever seen displayed in real time and not pre-rendered.

link for the lazy :)
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: San on February 11, 2003, 09:12:50 PM: http://www.futuremark.com/download/

It rocks!
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Pfunk on February 11, 2003, 09:15:33 PM: You wont get a good transfer rate from major geeks or any other mirror madonion provides, so here ya go, I download from this one at 160kb/s

http://files.gameland.ee/test/3DMark03.exe
Title: Re: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Mini D on February 11, 2003, 11:25:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Animal
my score is a puny 1,600
Almost as puny... 1693
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Octavius on February 11, 2003, 11:44:26 PM: holy crap, 176mb!

... downloading now...
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Staga on February 12, 2003, 06:47:31 AM: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=38453

1639

XP2400 oc'd to +2,1GHz + 768DDR + Gf4Ti4200 64mb +WinXP SP1
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Skuzzy on February 12, 2003, 09:18:42 AM: 4932
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Mini D on February 12, 2003, 09:41:34 AM: Ah... I was waiting for a 9700 owner to post. ;)

MiniD
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Octavius on February 12, 2003, 10:06:12 AM: I like the buff attack. Anyone notice the top turret glass on the B17? It kind of refracts the 'light' coming through it... neat effects!

I got a 2400 something.

EDIT: AMD T-bird 1.2ghz, 384mb ddr, K7S5A mobo, Radeon 9500 pro, win xp
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Horn on February 12, 2003, 11:08:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
4932

So you installed DX9?

dh
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Animal on February 12, 2003, 11:16:33 AM: You have to have it installed.
He got a better score because his video card is a true DX9 card.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Pfunk on February 12, 2003, 12:04:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Animal
You have to have it installed.
He got a better score because his video card is a true DX9 card.

Hate to burst your bubble but 3dmark2003 only uses 1 test for directx9 that being the nature scene and even then not fully. Hardocp will not use it for benchmarks, Nvidia wont use it, nor will pretty much any other hardware site.

3DMark03, a DirectX 9 Benchmark?" This is one question that we really must ask ourselves. Game 1 is a very simple DX7 test that is not representative of any current games. Game Tests 2 and 3 are DX8.1 but use Pixel Shader 1.4, which is not used by any games we are aware of and will not be to our knowledge. Game 4 is a hybrid of DX8/DX9. It is these four tests that determine the overall score. Only one game test in this benchmark DirectX 9 and then only partially.

Is 3DMark03 really a good indication of what “Real World” gaming is? Is 3DMark03 really "forward looking"?
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Skuzzy on February 12, 2003, 01:15:11 PM: NVidia pulled out of the development of 3dmark2k3 in December. They did not like the 3dmark guys using PS 1.4 and later for the tests as PS 1.4 is not supported on any NVidia card except the FX. ATI has supported PS 1.4 from the 8500 line forward.

And with the canning of the Ultra FX version they come up way short in performance numbers.

Overall, I have never put much faith in 3dmark anyways. If you try to tune for it, you could end up hurting real game performance. But as a tool for relative comparisons on your computer it is helpful.

Yeah, I installed DX9 just to see what the tests look like and then went back to Dx8.1b.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Mini D on February 12, 2003, 03:23:51 PM: All of the 8500's support it? I'll run it on my other system and see how it does. Its a 2g 8500 vs a 2.53g NF4. If it does better... I'll have to call it bogus... because there is little comparison between the two systems.

MiniD
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Skuzzy on February 12, 2003, 03:43:21 PM: The 8500's cannot run the Nature test due to the lack of DX9 supported VS 1.2.

All the 9xxx series support DX9 and will run all the tests.

The PS 1.4 shaders are a subset of the 2.0 shaders in DX9. I really don't know why NVidia did not upadte the GF4's with 1.4 pixel shader support before they shipped it. Really never made sense to me as 1.4 pixel shaders were defined for DX8.

Everyone knew the 1.4 shaders would be the first shaders to be forward compatible. 1.3 and earlier shaders are not compatible with 1.4 and later shaders.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: bloom25 on February 12, 2003, 10:03:36 PM: I believe HardOCP has an article up about driver bugs and such today. I haven't read it yet, but this fits right in.

3dmark 2001 was the same way - it unfairly penalized non-DX8 capable cards. Unfortunately, other than looking very pretty, it is not a fair benchmark to compare graphics cards anymore. It is still useful, as it allows you to see what impact system upgrades have on a system, but the video card has become such a variable in the scores that the numbers are totally out of proportion with true gaming performance. :(
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: LePaul on February 13, 2003, 10:51:28 AM: I've been holding at DX 8.1b....is there any gain to going DX 9?
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Animal on February 13, 2003, 01:05:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LePaul
I've been holding at DX 8.1b....is there any gain to going DX 9?

No, but theres no loss either.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: SunKing on February 13, 2003, 03:56:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
Ah... I was waiting for a 9700 owner to post. ;)

MiniD

4066 .. nothing tweaked.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Vermillion on February 13, 2003, 04:41:25 PM: Anyone else getting lockups?

Both my machine at home, and my machien at work (totally different types one athlon & Nvidia, and the other Intel/Radeon) are crashing at random points.

I just updated to the new Catalyst 3.1 drivers on the 9700 Pro, so maybe I should revert to the older drivers.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Skuzzy on February 13, 2003, 05:38:50 PM: I am using Cat 3.1's. Ran fine,.well...even the 9700Pro was breaking a sweat.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Vermillion on February 13, 2003, 06:26:35 PM: Reverted back to Cat 2.3's drivers

It ran with no crashes, but seemed very jerky. FPS's were shooting up and down wildly.

Final Score was 3389. Couldn't submitt to online results browser, but thats much worse than Sunkings and Skuzzy's, on a system that should be pretty stout.

I'll try the 3.0's and see if that helps.

***EDIT***

Well, I installed Cat 3.0 Vid drivers and it helped significantly. I ended up with a 4673. Still not stellar but definitely in the range for my exact same CPU/GPU at stock settings. When I did the compare online, the highest I saw for a stock nonoverclocked P4 2.8Ghz with a 9700 Pro was 4800 ish. The place I was getting beat to death was in the CPU tests. Maybe there is a setting or two in my BIOS that might improve my results slightly.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Eagler on February 13, 2003, 08:12:32 PM: 1448

default settings on test

XP2000

ti4400

512 ram
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Dead Man Flying on February 14, 2003, 09:25:29 AM: 1663 on an Athlon XP 1700+ w/ 512MB of PC2100 RAM and a GeForce 4 Ti4600. The GF4 is overclocked about 10%, and memory settings are aggressive.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: jonnyb on February 14, 2003, 01:36:40 PM: 1156 -- pathetic

Athlon XP 2000+
256M PC2100 <-- bottleneck
GeForce4 Ti4600
Windows XP
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Ike 2K# on February 14, 2003, 08:22:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
4932

LOL!!!!! i got 45:)
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: SunKing on February 14, 2003, 09:03:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ike 2K#
LOL!!!!! i got 45:)

What did you do, connect the hamster wheel to 3dmarks?
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Wlfgng on February 15, 2003, 12:09:57 AM: 4736... I think I need a better power supply.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Nath[BDP] on February 15, 2003, 04:51:42 AM: i scored 750

??
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Don on May 14, 2003, 07:13:54 PM: >>All the 9xxx series support DX9 and will run all the tests<<

I just read about the Radeon 9200, the article said not all 9XXX Radeon cards support DX9. I'm wondering about the virtues of the Radeon 9200 card, and whether to buy one or not.
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Sixpence on May 14, 2003, 10:44:15 PM: i get "skin/free/message/logo.tga" is corrupted

I also get a CRC error setting it up
Title: 3DMark03 is out
Post by: Phantom4 on May 15, 2003, 04:32:02 PM: 3598

ATI 9500 default setup
FIC AN11 mainboard AMD XP 2000+ 266 MHz fsb
512 ddr ram (2 x 256)
80gig WD harddrive ultra133

winxp
DX9.0a
CAT 3.2