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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Joc on February 13, 2003, 06:07:10 AM
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A freind sent me this,sorry if its been posted already.
The following interview was conducted by a reporter for the
Al-Jazeera network with the third-in-command of the Al Queda organization, Mr. Mohammed Al-Asuquf. Al-Asuquf's background is impressive; a doctorate in physics and masters in international economics. In the interview, he talks of Al Queda's plans with total detachment, with deep knowledge and an unshakeable commitment to his cause. This interview was sent to
Abel-Bari Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds, an Arabic-language newspaper published in London, but was never printed, due to its highly revealing inflammatory?] contents. A copy of the interview came to Foz-do-Iguacu, and was translated into Portuguese by a university professor in the city's Arab community. This is probably the only existing version of this interview not in Arabic.
Al-Jazeera: What is the objective of the Al Queda network?
Al-Asuquf: To destroy the Great Satan, that is, the United States
and Israel.
Al-Jazeera: Why?
Al-Asuquf: The USA over the past 60 years has been impregnating
[infecting] the world with its arrogance, greed and malfeasance. It is the incarnation of all that is evil. The people of this planet
don't deserve this torture.
Al-Jazeera: Isn't this view somewhat one-sided?
Al-Asuquf: No; one only has to observe recent events. The
disrespect of the Kyoto treaty; the case of the Permanent Court of International Justice, their inaction with regards to our Palestinian brothers; the financial greed and absurd speculations in Third World countries; the complete indifference to other oppressed people and countless other situations which
all of the world's leaders well know. And on top of all that, the
Bush doctrine of "shoot first and ask questions later." This is an
unacceptable abuse and will therefore have very grave consequences.
Al-Jazeera: But the isn't the development and influence of America the fruit of its own competence? Al-Asuquf: Competence in extortion, competence in subjugation,
competence in lying. After the Second World War, the USA was the only industrialized country with its manufacturing infrastructure intact. Loaning money
like a good loan shark, it ended up becoming a very rich and powerful country; however, its greed remained undiminished. Today, Americans live like Maharajas [King], wasting more than any other people, spending more than 880 billion per year just on gambling. They've lost any notion of spiritualityand live in constant sin. With each passing day the USA demonstrates that it doesn't know how to live with other peoples; for this, it deserves destruction.
Al-Jazeera: Wouldn't it be easier to simply assassinate President George Bush?
Al-Asuquf: In the first place, it would do no good, other than
turning him into a martyr. When you face a powerful enemy, the best strategy is not to kill him, but to make him lose his leadership due to his incompetence, and let him live to watch this unfold.
Al-Jazeera: Does the Al Queda network have the military capacity to make war on the United States?
Al-Asuquf: If we analyze history, we will see that all great wars,
before they were started, were based on previously established
concepts [of war]. But if we observe well, we will see that these concepts and strategies came to nothing, since a new type of war was ultimately waged. An example is theconstruction of the Maginot line by the French before the First World War, which, in reality proved to be completely useless against the invading
forces. Aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, and spy satellites
will be useless in the next war.
Al-Jazeera: American authorities hold more than 1,000 people
suspected of terrorism since September 11th. Won't this compromise Al Queda's plans?
Al-Asuquf: Of those imprisoned, perhaps 20 to 30 percent belong to Al Queda. Moreover, they are from the second echelon. We have more than 500 members of the first echelon and 800 from the second, inside the United States.
Al-Jazeera: What do you mean by first and second echelons?
Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon are Al Queda members who have been in the United States for more than 10 years, many married with children. They have detailed knowledge of our plans and are just waiting for a phone call. They are also known as "sleepers." Those of the second echelon have arrived in the last five years and have no idea of our plans.
Al-Jazeera: Are even those who are married, with children, ready to die with their families?
Al-Asuquf: Yes. All of them are ready to die. Long live September
11th..
Al-Jazeera: What was September 11th to Al Queda's overall plans?
Al-Asuquf: As a general step, it was just the beginning. It was a way of calling the world's attention to what is still to come.
Al-Jazeera: How many members does Al Queda have?
Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon, about 5,000; in the second, about
20,000, all over the world.
Al-Jazeera: In the detention camp at Guantanamo, are there any
members of the first echelon?
Al-Asuquf: No, in fact, many of those there are not even Al Queda members.
Al-Jazeera: How does Al Queda intend to destroy the most powerful nation in history?
Al-Asuquf: It's a question of logistics. Using its own poison, that
is, attacking the heart of what they consider the most important
thing in the world: money.
Al-Jazeera: How so?
Al-Asuquf: The American economy is an economy of false appearances. There is no real economic ballast to the American economy. The American GDP of is something around 810 trillion, of which just 1 percent represents agriculture, and just 24 percent represents industry. Therefore, 75 percent
of the American GDP is service and most of this is financial
speculation.
For those who understand economics, and it appears that the
American Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neil, doesn't or doesn't see it, it's enough to say that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com," and dollars, strictly speaking, are its shares.
Al-Jazeera: Can you explain that?
Al-Asuquf: The value of a company's shares is directly proportional
to the profitability of the enterprise. When a business is just a
service provider and doesn't produce any durable goods, the value of its shares depends on its credibility. Which is to say that if the credibility of the USA
were shaken, its shares (the dollar) would fall with incredible rapidity and the entire American economy would begin to collapse.
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Part two:
Al-Jazeera: How can you be so sure of this?
Al-Asuquf: On a smaller scale, it's exactly what large financial
groups do to the countries of the third world to reap profits in one month that Swiss banks couldn't get in four or five years.
Al-Jazeera: So how will Al Queda shock the American economy to this point?
Al-Asuquf: By provoking a deficit of between 850 and 870 trillion
dollars, the equivalent of the United States' GDP for five to seven
years.
Al-Jazeera: How will this be done?
Al-Asuquf: With the destruction of the seven largest American
cities, along with other measures.
Al-Jazeera: By what means will this be done?
Al-Asuquf: Using atomic bombs.
Al-Jazeera: With all of the security in the USA, how,
hypothetically, will these bombs be smuggled onto American soil?
Al-Asuquf: They won't be smuggled in, they're already there.
Al-Jazeera: What are you saying?
Al-Asuquf: There are already seven nuclear devices on American soil which were put in place before September 11th and are ready to be detonated.
Al-Jazeera: How did they get in to the USA?
Al-Asuquf: Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even after, were it necessary, we could manage to smuggle bombs into the
United States. They entered through seaports, as normal cargo.
Al-Jazeera: How is that possible?
Al-Asuquf: A nuclear device is no bigger than a refrigerator;
therefore, it can be easily camouflaged as one. Millions of cargo containers arrive in seaports each day, and no matter how efficient security is, it's impossible to check, search through and examine each container.
Al-Jazeera: Where did these atomic bombs come from?
Al-Asuquf: They were purchased on the black market.
Al-Jazeera: From whom?
Al-Asuquf: We bought five from the defunct Soviet Union and two
more from Pakistan.
Al-Jazeera: How is it possible to buy an atomic bomb? Isn't there
security?
Al-Asuquf: Before 1989 it was practically impossible, however after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Russian army began a process of self destruction, and some high generals began to lose their privileges, and therefore, highly susceptible to corruption. Even General Lebeb, now deceased, and Hans Blix, the head of the arms inspection commission of the
United Nations, have stated this, notwithstanding denials by Russian Defense Minister Seguey Ivanov.
Al-Jazeera: How much does a nuclear bomb cost?
Al-Asuquf: Somewhere around 8200 million.
Al-Jazeera: How did Al Queda get this money?
Al-Asuquf: We have numerous sponsors.
Al-Jazeera: Who are they?
Al-Asuquf: There are a number of countries which support us, and also numerous wealthy individuals.
Al-Jazeera: Are all of these countries Arab?
Al-Asuquf: No, there are some European countries as well which have an interest in the fall of the USA.
Al-Jazeera: Who are these wealthy individuals?
Al-Asuquf: People who are also tired of watching the USA suck the wealth out of the rest of the world.
Al-Jazeera: Is Saddam Hussein one of them?
Al-Asuquf: You could say that he's just one of the collaborators,
through Abdul Tawab Mullah Hawaish, his vice-prime minister and the person responsible for Iraq's arms program.
Al-Jazeera: Are these atomic bombs powerful ones?
Al-Asuquf: The five Russian devices are from the old T-3 missiles,
also known as RD-107s, and their potency is something around 100 kilotons each, that is, 5 times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb. The
Pakistani bombs are less powerful, somewhere around 10 kilotons.
Al-Jazeera: Can't the bombs be detected and disarmed by American authorities?
Al-Asuquf: No, in spite of their age they've undergone
modernization and are well hidden. Even if they were found, they have autodetonation provisions should anything get close to them. Even electromagnetic pulses would be incapable of deactivating them.
Al-Jazeera: Don't they emit radiation? Can't they be detected?
Al-Asuquf: No. They are wrapped in thick leaden cases.
Al-Jazeera: A suspected Pakistani ship was recently searched and all that was found were lead bars. Does this have anything to do with the bombs?
Al-Asuquf: Yes, however that lead was just an extra layer, and was not essentially necessary.
Al-Jazeera: How will the bombs be detonated?
Al-Asuquf: There are numerous methods, a cell-phone call, radio
frequency, seismic shocks or by timer.
Al-Jazeera: Once detonated, how many deaths will be caused by these bombs?
Al-Asuquf: It depends, since our plans are very malleable.
Al-Jazeera: So what is the entire plan?
Al-Asuquf: The beginning will be the detonation of a nuclear
device, which will cause the death of between 800 thousand and one million people and create chaos on a scale never seen before. During this chaos, two or three
cropsprayers that are now dismantled and stored in granaries
[silos?] close to little-used highways in the countryside will take
off on suicide missions to spray two or three large American cities with smallpox. That means that once the smallpox has been identified, all airports and seaports will be closed by quarantine. Land borders will likewise be shut down.. Not
one airplane, ship or vehicle will enter or leave the United States.
This will cause total chaos. White House Press secretary Ari Fleischman will be very busy.
Al-Jazeera: But the American government has guaranteed that within five days it could produce enough smallpox vaccine to inoculate the entire population.
Al-Asuquf: There will be simultaneous suicide attacks against the
vaccine production plants.
Al-Jazeera: Which will be the first city?
Al-Asuquf: The first city will be that in which optimal conditions
present themselves, for example, clear skies, and winds of eight
miles-per- hour or less in the direction of the country's center so that radioactive dust can contaminate the maximum possible area.
Al-Jazeera: Will this attack annihilate the USA?
Al-Asuquf: No. But the process will have begun. Who will buy food products from the United States knowing they may have been contaminated by radiation? Who will travel to the United States knowing the possibility of contracting smallpox? Who will continue to invest in American institutions? Just as with the World Trade Center, it will be simply a question of time before the entire economic structure collapses and turns to dust. If our
objectives are reached with one bomb and the smallpox, probably we'll save the lives of others, however that's risky [unlikely?], and it's probable that six more bombs will be detonated, one per week, and other attacks with chemical weapons will be carried out.
Al-Jazeera: How many innocent people will die?
Al-Asuquf: According to estimates made by me and Ayman Al-Zawahiro, somewhere around 15 million due to the atomic bombs and their radiation.
Of those exposed to smallpox, 25 percent will die, approximately
five million, and many more due to the ensuing chaos and disorder.
Al-Jazeera: What about the American military response?
Al-Asuquf: There will practically be none. Even if five or ten
cities were chosen at random to be destroyed, that would still be a small price to pay.
The problem is the economic despair will be so great that even
economizing by not using arms unnecessarily will occur, since the liquidity of American goods will be almost zero and at that point the United States will make more selling its Nimitz-class aircraft carriers, which cost about five billion dollars, to Turkey or Italy for one billion dollars, since the
country will so urgently need to recapitalize, though it will be too
late. Moreover, how will the morale of American soldiers be knowing
that their entire families have died and their country no longer
exists. Fight for what? Al-Jazeera: And won't the global economy also be ruined?
Al-Asuquf: In the beginning it will be very difficult; a serious
economic crisis will ensue. However, without the United States, the world will soon arise in a more just and fraternal manner.
Al-Jazeera: And Israel?
Al-Asuquf: As they say... it will be dessert.
Al-Jazeera: Does bin Laden's spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Gheith, know that you are giving this interview?
Al-Asuquf: It was he and bin Laden who suggested I give it.
Al-Jazeera: Osama bin Laden is still alive?
Al-Asuquf: He is quite healthy, alongside his commanders Mohammed
Atef and Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar.
Al-Jazeera: Aren't you fearful that Al Queda's plans will be
discovered?
Al-Asuquf: The plan is already in its countdown, and nothing can
stop it.
Al-Jazeera: Not even if the United States asks forgiveness and
changes its attitudes?
Al-Asuquf: That won't happen, and even if it did, it's too late.
Al-Jazeera: When will the attack begin?
Al-Asuquf: I can't reveal that. Allah Akbar.
I hope this aint for real,The uneasyness I felt when the Cold war was still on is nuthing to the way I feel now...
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roadkill on so many different levels.
Especially the part about European countries giving money to Al Queda for a nuke! lol I almost expected it to name France and Germany.
The rest is scare-mongering nonsense, with enough detail to make it sound legit, but even a cursory inspection shows how fraudulent it is.
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My God.
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There isn't anything there that we haven't already speculated on.
Btw, Joc, you are supposed to feel terror.
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I suppose there's a chance they have acquired nukes and smuggled them in.
The mistake he and his operatives make is in underestimating the people of the US.
They obviously view us as if we have no fortitude and endurance.
They might pull something like this off.
However, it wouldn't be the end, it would be the true beginning.
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Theres not one dang thing we can do about it.. I'll just pull the sheet back over my head and go back to bed...
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Theres not one dang thing we can do about it.. I'll just pull the sheet back over my head and go back to bed...
"Maybe it will just go away!" ;)
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What really cracks me up is this morons underestimation of us in the USA and our Allies. Okay..they nuke 7 cities... guess what? We're still here. The dream lives.... you cant break us.
I reallllly think they have NO idea how GD stubborn we can be. I really dont. I think his organization is simply repeating the mistakes made by others in the past. "The US is weak and moraly corrupt, they'll collapase at the first sign of adversity".... heh, yea. Take a hard look at how we reacted to 9/11.
xBAT
Batmon
P.S. Just saw that Toad said the same thing... doh. Anyway.. Toad.
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Out of interest, do you really believe this interview is genuine?
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I dont know Dowding... maybe maybe not.
I think what matters is that we, the west, simply let others know that we realise we might die but quess what... we are as prepared as they are.
Dont tread on us.
xBAT
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I wouldn't believe that they would sit in a room and make this all up without at least talking to someone.
Whether that someone knows anything, whether he is anyone important, and whether he is telling what he believes to the be truth are beyond my knowing.
Originally posted by Dowding
Out of interest, do you really believe this interview is genuine?
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If Al-Q had any nuclear weapons - especially ones already in place in the U.S.A. - they would have been detonated already.
All they'd need to do to to easily prove the posession of the Russian weapons would be to reveal the ID of the weapons.
Mike/wulfie
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Originally posted by Dowding
Out of interest, do you really believe this interview is genuine?
It doesn't matter what I believe, it matters what you believe. I'm sure we can reason with them, don't you?
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1 thing is sure though.....he was 100% correct on the economic side.....compared to most on this planet...we on the north-american continent have it much better(we are materialistic).....
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Originally posted by Dowding
Out of interest, do you really believe this interview is genuine?
I dunno - but if it is, I want to see video and sound with an English translation on the six oclock news tonight. Im not sure if this is real or not, but Im willing to expect the worst and act appropriately, as opposed to promote my own intellectual supremecy and claim its all roadkill. The advantage of taking the "its all Bush's roadkill" stance however, is that you wont have to publicly admit your stupidity afterwards because you wont be here.
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Slo, maybe it's because we North Americans haven't spent the last 2000 years killing each other over religion and/or trying to steal each others' resources.
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Kanth - this is the internet. I don't think I need to say more. This 'interview' has no verifiable source other than some unknown professor in Portugal. It smacks of the old 'our source in Area 51 says he watched the whole autopsy' ploy. Now you can choose to believe it all if you like, in the same way as you can choose to believe aliens had something to do with the death of Elvis.
Just take five minutes to look at it objectively. Like Wulfie says, if they had a nuke in the US, they'd have used on 9-11 instead of a relatively unsophisticated hijacking with knives. Secondly, which anonymous European state is funding Al Queda's nuke purchase scheme? Your guess is as good as mine, but I can't see any of them doing it. Not one. Not even Russia. All the Eastern European nations are clamoring to get into NATO.
It's a construct designed to hit all the bases in terms of paranoia. The current French/German, European controversy for instance.
The advantage of taking the "its all Bush's roadkill" stance however, is that you wont have to publicly admit your stupidity afterwards because you wont be here.
Who said anything about Bush?
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"1 thing is sure though.....he was 100% correct on the economic side.....compared to most on this planet...we on the north-american continent have it much better(we are materialistic)....."
So we are materialistic, how does that make us different than the oil cartel in the middle east or japan, germany, france, etc. People with money buy things, that's why we make it. I think alot of what this guy is saying is BS anyway, and their plan even if successful will not succeed.
Think about it 7 nukes go off, to put us in a deficit, you don't think that american companies and individuals and even the government wouldn't make sizable donations and a deficit would not be created. The american people and humans in general have a large capacity for compassion and the rebuilding would be close to free and we would bounce back I am sure.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Who said anything about Bush?
Dowding... you know exactly what I mean... not gonna play word games with you all day again because you cant voice an effective argument. :rolleyes:
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How did you know that I believe aliens had something to do with the death of Elvis?
Originally posted by Dowding
Now you can choose to believe it all if you like, in the same way as you can choose to believe aliens had something to do with the death of Elvis.
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Dowding... you know exactly what I mean... not gonna play word games with you all day again because you cant voice an effective argument. :rolleyes:
Well if voicing an 'effective argument' revolves around getting personal then I really can't be arsed either.
I don't see what Bush has to do with this. This 'interview' hasn't been mentioned by the Bush administration, nor has it been mentioned on any news-service. Perhaps you know different, but I suspect not. I bow to the effectiveness of your argument.
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It's a secret Kanth. I can't say anything more because I can hear the rotor blades and running feet. Luckily, I'm wearing my tin hat too.
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If someone could take out 7 major cities in the US at the same time or pretty close to one another - the US would go the way of the Roman Empire.... no doubt about it
that is exactly why we must strike first........... after is too late.
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It has a faint sent of (sniff sniff)
I know...
roadkill!
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the US would go the way of the Roman Empire...
The Roman Empire was destroyed by civil war and purely internal strife.
Comparing the US to an Empire built on subjugation, conquest and slavery might call forth Toad's wrath. ;)
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Terrorism can only be effective when it's source is hidden. Let even one nuke be detonated in the US and we'll likely go after them with a vengence the world has never seen. Irrespective of whether the country in which they are hiding has pretended to be our friend. Those countries know this and will likely hold short the reins of those organizations intent on our destruction.
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I think I saw Elvis just today
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Islamic terrorists citing the US rejection of the Kyoto agreement as justification for their cause? Nuke 7 cities and then send in 2 or 3 cropdusters? Attack the labs which make smallpox vaccine? This is colorful.
ra
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:D
I would rather err on the side of overestimation(caution) in this case, proof, legitimacy or no.
It's entirely possible that this man is lying, it's entirely possible that this man doesn't exist or hasn't said these things or that they aren't true.
But it's also entirely possible that something large and bad can happen here. Will it change the way I live my life (before/if it occurs)? nope, I do require proof for that measure. But I will keep an open mind to it and I think that's the safest way I can play.
Being mentally prepared for possible danger has never left me in helpless shock when it's failed to occur. :)
Originally posted by Dowding
It's a secret Kanth. I can't say anything more because I can hear the rotor blades and running feet. Luckily, I'm wearing my tin hat too.
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Dowding, given that:
1. Thousands of Muslim extremists have dedicated themselves to the actual destruction of America...
2. Muslim extremists have studied and attempted to obtain, or actually obtained, nuclear matierial and hardware, as well as other WMD...
3. Muslim extremists have considerable wealth and resources to acomplish their aims...
4. There are certainly Al Queda present in the United States...
5. American borders have never been, and still are not secure...
... the idea is not at all out of the realm of possibility, and it has certainly been of concern to our government.
What Dowding said in his first post. This "interview" reads like something one would read in a Tom Clancy book. -Oedepus
Oedepus, do you mean like crashing airliners into skyscrapers?
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Oedipus, what is your evidence that it is fake? Just wondering...
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Dowding, given that:
1. Thousands of Muslim extremists have dedicated themselves to the actual destruction of America...
2. Muslim extremists have studied and attempted to obtain, or actually obtained, nuclear matierial and hardware, as well as other WMD...
3. Muslim extremists have considerable wealth and resources to acomplish their aims...
4. There are certainly Al Queda present in the United States...
5. American borders have never been, and still are not secure...
... the idea is not at all out of the realm of possibility, and it has certainly been of concern to our government.
I don't doubt any of that. But how does that validate this 'interview'?
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Dowding is right it seems...
http://antivirus.about.com/library/hoaxes/bljazeera.htm
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A hoax. The faux interview draws heavily from themes found in John Clancy books, such as "The Sum of all Fears" and "The Peacemaker". The writing style and questions posed are nowhere near the quality and integrity of journalism found with true Al-Jazeera reporters. This assumption was verified by Omar Bec, head of Newsgathering & Operations for Al-Jazeera, who dismissed the email as being "totally bogus". He also noted that "had the (interview) taken place, jazeera would not hesitate to air it at all" for the sake of journalistic integrity. It also appears that even the name "Mohammed Al-Asuquf" is a fake, as there is no known person by that name affiliated with Al-Queda.
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Some of you people need to recalibrate your roadkillometers. This was about as obvious a hoax as they come.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dowding
Comparing the US to an Empire built on subjugation, conquest and slavery might call forth Toad's wrath. ;)
Wrath?
No.
Another History Lesson for those who were too busy playing pocket pool to pay attention in school?
Probably. :D
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Ha! How dare you!
I played pocket snooker. It requires bigger balls and a larger cue. :D
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I'm glad to hear it was a hoax. I strive for objectivity, that is why I asked for some evidence or rationale as to why some automatically wrote it off as a hoax... some specific, quantifiable evidence to support your conclusion, whatever it may have been.
I've been researching Muslim extremists lately, and maybe I've been spending too much time reading about their hatred for the west...
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Originally posted by Dowding
Ha! How dare you!
I played pocket snooker. It requires bigger balls and a larger cue. :D
So you played anyway, despite your serious handicap in the equipment department?
(Sorry, couldn't resist. You left yourself way too open as a target there. Just ribbing ya. )
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My only regret is that I have but one life to give.
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wulfie: All they'd need to do to to easily prove the posession of the Russian weapons would be to reveal the ID of the weapons.
You sorely tempt me to comment on your intelligence....
If you were a corrupt russian general, wouldn't you had filed off the serial numbers from any weapon system sold on a black market?
AKIron: Terrorism can only be effective when it's source is hidden. Let even one nuke be detonated in the US and we'll likely go after them with a vengence the world has never seen.
How would a nuclear detonation reveal the identity of the perpetrators?
miko
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Originally posted by miko2d
How would a nuclear detonation reveal the identity of the perpetrators?
miko
Does it matter? We just blame all the fanatical Muslims and declare jihad.
Didn't they trace the plutonium signature of a bomb to it's source in some movie? Must be possible, right?
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Originally posted by Gunthr
some specific, quantifiable evidence to support your conclusion, whatever it may have been.
Well, let's decompose the nonsense, shall we?
The following interview was conducted by a reporter for the Al-Jazeera network with the third-in-command of the Al Queda organization, Mr. Mohammed Al-Asuquf.
A reporter? Who? An interview? When? Where? Isn't Al-Jazeera a television network? Why then does this piece keep referring to the interview as if it was written in Arabic? Was it transcribed? Where's the original video tape?
Al-Asuquf's background is impressive; a doctorate in physics and masters in international economics.
From where?
In the interview, he talks of Al Queda's plans with total detachment, with deep knowledge and an unshakeable commitment to his cause.
Riiiiiiiiiight. So basically a printed interview relays all of this for us.
This interview was sent to Abel-Bari Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds, an Arabic-language newspaper published in London, but was never printed, due to its highly revealing inflammatory?] contents.
And the name dropping continues for legitmacy's sake. So the interview was not recorded then? Oh, and roadkill on the too inflammatory thing.
A copy of the interview came to Foz-do-Iguacu, and was translated into Portuguese by a university professor in the city's Arab community. This is probably the only existing version of this interview not in Arabic.
And yet here's the interview in English. Cool! Wait, doesn't that mean there must be more versions that aren't in Arabic? Hm. Oh, well maybe we can ask the professor. What was his name again? What university? Oh, well.
The whole account is so gaping with holes that it screams roadkill.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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AKIron: Didn't they trace the plutonium signature of a bomb to it's source in some movie? Must be possible, right?
What if they sprinkle the bombs with pepper to put the dogs off-scent?
miko
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Miko, how much proof did we have that Al Queda was behind the WTC bombing? We went after them pretty hard.
Don't you think that if a nuke went off in a large US city, killing tens, if not hundreds of thousands, the response would be far greater?
Do you not think that those countries that are birthing the current outbreak of American hatred know that? And that our tolerance and looking the other way would disappear in a flash?
Right or wrong, we won't need proof.
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I was at the beach in HS sorry :)
I'm not saying the interview was real (don't care), I'm stating if 7 cities, say NY, Chicago, LA, DC area, to name a couple were destroyed .. yes the US would fall.
After the country was plunged into economic despair & confusion - we ourselves would finish the job....
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LOL, Dowding and Toad :)
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8200 mil $ * 7 bombs = 57400 mil $
57,4 BILLION Dollars!!! :eek:
They dont need no stinking bombs, they can buy a whole Army!!!
How many exocet and/or mirage ??
:D
;)
BS!
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Anyway, the image, the novel, the story, it's really scaring.
If it's real....
But is'nt....
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Ah..
I like the part in wich Italy buy a Nimitz class CV for one Billion $.
LOL, and then we mount our mighty GIANT SLINGS on it. :D
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Originally posted by Oedipus
"Right or wrong, we won't need proof."
And so sayeth AKTorquemada aka AKInquisitor_General.
Oed
Tell me I'm wrong?
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You are wrong.
Originally posted by AKIron
Tell me I'm wrong?
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Hope we never have to find out.
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Me 2. :)
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Originally posted by Toad
Slo, maybe it's because we North Americans haven't spent the last 2000 years killing each other over religion and/or trying to steal each others' resources.
well ... you don't have 2000 year history don't you ?
:p
forgot the smilley
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Not yet.
But our first 10% went pretty well.
:p
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ok , 7 major cities gone inc DC, so we have no govt and no economy.
but the US military is untouched , inc about 5000 nuks
gen "mad dog" smith declares martial law.
mecca is target #1 , and because we have no economy we have no need for arab oil anymore so all arab oil fields will be nuked.
now lets see, i have about 4725 nuks left, bagdad ,aswan high dam, paris , berlin, teran, cairo , etc ,etc , will run out of targets before nuks, can you say ....armageddon...allah will be pleased
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Originally posted by miko2d
wulfie: All they'd need to do to to easily prove the posession of the Russian weapons would be to reveal the ID of the weapons.
You sorely tempt me to comment on your intelligence....
If you were a corrupt russian general, wouldn't you had filed off the serial numbers from any weapon system sold on a black market?
miko
Well, there's a couple of things here. :)
I used 'weapon ID' as a simple example.
The truth is I don't believe they could get their hands on a Russian fission weapon and keep it a secret for more than 3 days or so.
I don't think *any* Russian Officer would 'sell' a fission weapon to anyone. Basically, to get their hands on a Russian fission weapon they'd have to kill some official people (security personnel, technicians, etc.) and the death of these people would be noticed fairly quickly.
Also, you can't 'file the ID' off any U.S. or Russian fission weapon. There's some forms of ID that could be 'filed off' for sure, but there are other ways to ID the weapon to WMD specialists that would prove beyond a doubt that you had such a weapon.
But to be honest, you Russians are infidels just like we Americans are. :) All Al-Q would have to do (and they'd have no problem doing it...what do they care about the fate of a Russian Officer?) is say "The bombs are from these 2 complexes...we bought them from the corrupt materialistic infidel officer who was charged with their security".
Mike/wulfie
p.s. You still need to email me! AH_wulfie@cox.net
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