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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: T0J0 on February 13, 2003, 12:17:12 PM
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Japan has given a warning it would launch a pre-emptive military action against North Korea if it had firm evidence Pyongyang was planning a missile attack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2757923.stm
The Deck of cards justed got a cut....
The Japanese would like North Korea to know that they are still alive and breathing!!
I wasn't aware how much a power the Japanese defence force was but after reading a few articles they seem to really have their toejam togethor....
WTG Japan!!!!
T0J0
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LOL - GO JAPAN! :D
France and Germany together.
United States and Japan together.
What a difference 50 years can make. ;)
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I understand now why France is so jealous of USA.
She was used to start fashion.
Now US has started a new fashion.
The pre-emptive fashion....
Go naked at your next date - a preemptive end! ;)
throw out of the house the food just buyed - a preemtive trash !!
Launch your car against the next one in line - a preemptive crash!!
:D
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LOL Naso :D
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Naso, do you think Japan is being provocative towards North Korea? I miss your point.
ra
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It was a joke Ra, just a joke.
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good one NAso :)
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OH NO THE JAPANESE WILL LAUNCH THEIR MECHA WEAPONS!!!!!! IT HAS BEGUN!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
MACROSS!!!!
poor poor North Korea
WTFG Japan :D :D
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And PATLABOR too!
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WTG Japan!! :D
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Japan: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!!!!!!!!
North Korea: SOMBODY SET US UP THE BOMB!!!!!!!!
dont forget the gundams.
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Korea..line up your comfot girs for insprection.
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Hentai missiles away!!!
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I would think that US prefer Japan not go about rattling its sabre at Korea...
Theres some very bad blood even in the south. The idea of a Japanese pre-emptive strike may not sit well with a lot of Koreans.
One would think the US would work through China to get this type of statement. From a TV news interview a while back one of the commentators mentioned that quite a few in the N. Korean government feel that they arent respected as a nation. He speculated that this is one of the reason that N. Korea will actively seek a nuclear weapon. N. Korea is not like Suddam or the Arab terrorists. Most of their interests are regional. They arent actively seeking to destroy the "Great Satan." They are our enemies because of our support for the South. Its far less likely that N. Korea will supply wmd to terrorists. But they would certainly use wmd as a tool to bully the region.
Having Japan threaten N. Korea is like Germany threatening Poland or Israel. Its gonna piss alot of folks off. The US should work through China and in a lesser degree through S. Korea. We oughta tell Japan to stfu.
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Having Japan threaten N. Korea is like Germany threatening Poland or Israel. Its gonna piss alot of folks off. The US should work through China and in a lesser degree through S. Korea. We oughta tell Japan to stfu.
Yup.. however consider.. we're gonna have to treat the japanese very carefully as this develops.. and listen very carefully to what they have to say. It is certain that the japanese have far more intel sources in pongyang than we do. If they insist that a pre-emptive strike be made based on their intel we may have no choice but to share that info with the chinese before any strike is executed.
Q: Whats the Chinese take on NK in the nuclear club? Should they decline to object and offer NK economic and military assistance, Japan could be toejam outta luck if they go after the NK's with a pre-emptive assault.
Would be seem to be very strange indeed to be assisting the chinese and japanese in nutralizing the NK's. The world is definitly getting to be an exceedingly wierd place.
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I do not think China can back NK militarily against Japan. This would force the US to honor our agreement to defend Japan... and voila... WW3
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Wasn't it Japan that the NK's launched a missle over???? I wuold think that that was a very clear message from the NK's that they don't care WHAT Japan thinks. As for Japan I don't see how they could take that missle test as ANYTHING but a clear indication of the NK's intentions shouold hostilities break out. Japan has just replied in clear terms that they won't sit back and pull a Chamberlain hoping the boogeyman will be happy.
Japan, nice to see a friend.
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Oed... how could you possibly assume this kind of conflict would remain regional?
I'm not saying I'm certain it would become global... but I am saying it seems rather short sited to assume it wouldn't.
China has allies of its' own... and a huge army... even conscripts take resources(some sort of ordnance) to kill. India and China do not get along.... Pakistan hates India/vice versa... (insert Arab Country here) hate Isreal and we'd be pretty occupied dealing w/ China. WWI started as a spat between 2 countries... and then treaties had to be honored..*poof* world war. Now, I'm a hawk so I am no peacenik... I just feel that China simply cannot afford to support NK in a conflict w/ Japan because they'd be facing the US militarily...... dead Chinese everywhere... quite messy.
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China has very few 'strategic' capabilities. Their Navy is numerous but unable to project redoubtable force very far from it's shores.
They certainly recognize the futility of utilizing any nuclear assets against either japan, korea, taiwan or US possessions in the region.
It's biggest strength lies with it's army.. but without the means to move those forces off the mainland it is not a threat to us anywhere BUT the Korean penninsula. As long as the U.S. Navy remains in the Formosa straight, Taiwan will remain Chinas errant stepchild in revolt.
Short of deplyoing nuclear assets the chinese would be unstoppable should the decide to 'annex' their troublesome neighbors to the west. (N & S. Korea)
I suspect, considering the situation, should china declare that they intend to deal with NK, there won't be a single finger lifted in the west to dissuade them, no matter HOW loudly SK screams.
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China is too dependent on us trade and world trade for that matter to risk it all on NK. All that money they spent on Clinton would have been wasted. ;) If anything China has an interest in a NK without WMD.
NK is more likely to respond to China then the US, SK and they certainly arent going to bend over for Japan given history.
No one would say anything if Japan made a pre-emptive strike if they have intel that proves the need. Or if they responded to an attack against them. But making a statement about such a strike can be seen as a threat.
Threatening NK does nothing to further the political process that will be necessary to get NK to comply with the past agreements.
NK is posturing for a "better" deal. They are starving and have little hard currency.
When people compare the situation with NK to Iraq most are clueless as to the reality and clear differences in the 2.
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Ever see the movie "The Mouse that Roared?"
;)
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Originally posted by Oedipus
So, the US-Japan-South_Korea-Taiwan vs. China-North_Korea??
Would China and Norrth Korea stand a chance? Not imo.
Oed
uhhh....
Population:
1,284,303,705 (July 2002 est.)
Military manpower - availability:
males age 15-49: 370,087,489 (2002 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service:
males age 15-49: 203,003,036 (2002 est.)
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Yes Yes Staga but the Japanese have Mecha! so it all evens out :D
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Who is the U.S. to tell Japan not to threaten North Korea? N.Korea is barely a stones through from Japan and they are building up an arsenal. The U.S. needs as many allies as it can get right now.
We don't even need South Korea. In fact, they have forgotten how we SAVED them from the North Koreans. The U.S. is OWED at least 2 complimentary military bases in South Korea, along with at least 2 or 3 in Japan. In case of conflict in SE asia, these bases could be used as a staging point. Just my POV.
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i wonder what weapons the taiwanese have stashed. remember they were preparing to face THE largest military force in history.. a billion chinese.
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davidpt... I haven't read or heard anywhere that we cared whether Japan amde any threats..what are you talking about>?