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Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 14, 2003, 08:16:20 AM
OK...I figured I had no right to whine about the unrealistic features of certain maps if I wasn't gonna try to come up with one myself...if that makes any sense.  SOOOOOOOOOOOO, I'm figuring out the TE program, and it's driving me nuts.

Can anyone offer any start up suggestions?

Also, am I wrong in believing that you can import .bmp maps into AHTE, then work with them?  I've tried to import several different .bmp's, and the program crashes.  What gives?

Again...any startup suggestions, input, so on would be greatly appreciated!  :D
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: ramzey on February 14, 2003, 08:22:51 AM
For bitmaps its MOST inportand to convert them to indexed color mode in your bitmap editor. /indexed =256 colors/
 
If u do this , TE should stop crash.

And u are try to import bitmep from \texsrc directory , in your terrain project directory? not by import?


ramzey
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Voss on February 14, 2003, 11:00:29 AM
Image size should be 1024x1024x256 black and white (256 color greyscale), and it should import that without crashing.
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 14, 2003, 12:03:19 PM
thanks for the input, guys.  

ok...making progress...i think.

i changed the bmp to 1024x1024 on 256 color.  now when i try to import it, it doesn't crash, but it doesn't show up either.  :mad:

a case of beer maile to the one(s) who make it make sense to me.  hehe
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 14, 2003, 12:40:48 PM
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Originally posted by Tuck
thanks for the input, guys.  

ok...making progress...i think.

i changed the bmp to 1024x1024 on 256 color.  now when i try to import it, it doesn't crash, but it doesn't show up either.  :mad:

a case of beer maile to the one(s) who make it make sense to me.  hehe


As far as I can tell the import only makes the .ELV ( elevation ) file and not the .TYP ( type.. land texture).  I maybe doing something wrong and can be corrected.
So all you'll have when you open the TE is all Water Textures.  If you place your mouse cross on different spots you should see the different elevations

Here's a program by AKWabbit that works good.  It gives you both .ELV and .TYP files.

http://www.accesswave.ca/~tscott/AH-stuff/AH-Editor&Stuff/AKBmp2map/akbmp2map.exe

Here's a little help file that I put together for it.

http://www.accesswave.ca/~tscott/AH-stuff/AH-Editor&Stuff/AKBmp2map/AKBmp2Map-Help2.zip



Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: NUTTZ on February 14, 2003, 06:45:06 PM
the map you need to make the elevations from is a 1024X1024 GREYSCALE! not 256 index'ed. The clipbaord map needs to be 256 color:)


NUTTZ

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Originally posted by Tuck
thanks for the input, guys.  

ok...making progress...i think.

i changed the bmp to 1024x1024 on 256 color.  now when i try to import it, it doesn't crash, but it doesn't show up either.  :mad:

a case of beer maile to the one(s) who make it make sense to me.  hehe
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Mugzeee on February 15, 2003, 03:29:36 AM
Am i to understand that the Clip Board Map...is the one that should show up in the "MapWindow" of the terrain Editor?
Or is it only the Grid MAp that will show up there?\
Thanks
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 15, 2003, 09:21:44 AM
nuttz....thanks for that bit o' input.  helped....i think.  hehe

pokie...that link you posted for the program you were saying would allow me to do both elevation and texture crashes my system...tried it about 4 times last night.  keep getting a windows error message thingie that screws my system...any ideas?

is it possible at all to import a map into AHTE that will allow me simply to put ah textures over it...repaint the map i import, so to speak?
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: NHawk on February 15, 2003, 09:58:16 AM
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Originally posted by Tuck
is it possible at all to import a map into AHTE that will allow me simply to put ah textures over it...repaint the map i import, so to speak?


You can import a map in the TE itself and all surfaces will be water. You can then add textures manually. BUT, it takes much longer to do it that way.
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: gatso on February 15, 2003, 11:33:54 AM
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Originally posted by Tuck
nuttz....thanks for that bit o' input.  helped....i think.  hehe

pokie...that link you posted for the program you were saying would allow me to do both elevation and texture crashes my system...tried it about 4 times last night.  keep getting a windows error message thingie that screws my system...any ideas?

is it possible at all to import a map into AHTE that will allow me simply to put ah textures over it...repaint the map i import, so to speak?


Bmp2map is brilliant. you need a 1024x1024 pixel 256 colour greyscale image. White being 'high' ground and pure black being 0 altitude water. I believe there is a sample image in the AKbmp2map folder... Have a look at it and then try building a map using that image. You should get the idea.

Gatso
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 16, 2003, 06:38:20 AM
can ya tell me where to get the program?

i've tried the link that's posted in pokie's response, but when i try to open it (the program from that link), it crashes my system.

is there another place to get it?  i'm thinking maybe it's a problem with that paticular .exe file on my system.  i dunno.  :rolleyes:
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 16, 2003, 06:43:58 AM
can ya tell me where to get the program?

i've tried the link that's posted in pokie's response, but when i try to open it (the program from that link), it crashes my system.

is there another place to get it?  i'm thinking maybe it's a problem with that paticular .exe file on my system.  i dunno.  :rolleyes:
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: gatso on February 16, 2003, 07:02:57 AM
Tuck, the .exe you download is just a self extracting .zip. I just downloaded it no problems.

Which .exe exactly is crashing your system?

Gatso
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 16, 2003, 11:33:24 AM
i used the link in pokie's earlier reply in this posting.

i click on it....download it, and when i try to open it.......it opens to 100% then fries my system, giving me a critical windows error thingie.  tried it several times.

where can i find it unzipped?
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 16, 2003, 12:46:31 PM
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Originally posted by Tuck
i used the link in pokie's earlier reply in this posting.

i click on it....download it, and when i try to open it.......it opens to 100% then fries my system, giving me a critical windows error thingie.  tried it several times.

where can i find it unzipped?


I would say that maybe it didn't download properly.

Download it again and then double click it.

I just download it and tried it and it worked ok.

Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: gatso on February 16, 2003, 04:59:48 PM
What pokie said. If you don't already have it go and grab winzip http://www.winzip.com. You can then right click on the .exe and choose 'open with winzip' . This circumvents the built in extraction. If you still have problems download it again. Sounds like a corrupt download.

Gatso
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 17, 2003, 07:06:13 PM
Any luck Tuck?

Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 18, 2003, 04:11:50 PM
yup.....i have winzip.

i tried to open it as you suggested (with winzip itself), and it still crashed the system.  i can't figure it out.

is there anyplace to get the program in it's unzipped form?
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 18, 2003, 04:47:59 PM
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Originally posted by Tuck
yup.....i have winzip.

i tried to open it as you suggested (with winzip itself), and it still crashed the system.  i can't figure it out.

is there anyplace to get the program in it's unzipped form?



It is not a single file.  It is made up of 14 files.

Try downloading this.

http://www.accesswave.ca/~tscott/AH-stuff/AH-Editor&Stuff/AKBmp2map/BMP2MAP.ZIP

Unzip it to a temp. folder and run the setup.exe

Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 19, 2003, 03:47:41 PM
well, tried that as well.  system still crashed.  :mad:
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 19, 2003, 04:07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Tuck
well, tried that as well.  system still crashed.  :mad:
Were you able to unzip it to a temp file first with out crashing or did you only crash once you unzipped it and doubled clicked the setup.exe?


Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 20, 2003, 05:43:44 PM
it crashes when i get to the .exe file.
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 20, 2003, 05:53:34 PM
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Originally posted by Tuck
it crashes when i get to the .exe file.


So you mean that as the winzip is unzipping it into the temp for and comes to the .exe you crash?

What version is your windows?

What version is your Winzip?

Do you happen to have WinRar?  Don't know if that would make a differences if I zipped it using it or not.

I don't know what would be happing???

Are any programs other than winzip running?  If so shut them down and try again.

Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 20, 2003, 06:43:53 PM
Just thought about Virus Scanners also this program puts stuff into your registry.

You are the only one that I'm aware of that had a problem installing this program. :confused:

Pokie
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: Tuck on February 24, 2003, 04:09:30 PM
First of all...I'd like to thank all of you'se guys who have offered advice and input on my little quest to get this bleedin' thing to work.  Secondly, I'd like to tell you all what a handsomehunk I am for not thinking to check one of the most simple things...VIRUS program.  :mad:

Thanks Pokie.  LOL

I'm going to go flog myself now and stick my head in the oven.
Title: 1st Time Attempt here...HELP!
Post by: pokie on February 24, 2003, 04:44:19 PM
It's amazing how something so GOOD can also be so EVIL at the same time.
OUCH!

Pokie