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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: muckmaw on February 14, 2003, 11:04:55 AM
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Thoughts?
It sounded like they are making progress, but there were 3 items that stuck out.
The movement of Med. Range missles beyond the limits of the UN resolution.
The importation of 35 SA-2 rockets in violation of UN
The rebuilding of a rocket casing casting factory, that was destroyed by UN inspectors last time around.
I'm still on the fence, but I'm getting the feeling Saddam is building up to strike Israel with these missles loaded with NBC's.
Can we wait around and see if this is the case, or do we have enough to go in?
Personally, I rather see a peaceful resolution, but not at the cost of the securitiy of America and her Allies.
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making progress?
Blix blew alot a smoke over needing more time but ultimately he said that Iraq hasnt fully complied with the UN resolution.
France will cling to the "need more time" and the US will cling to "has yet to comply".
The current situation will not change. The US in all likelyhood will go to war.
EDIT
the issue over the 2 iraqi missiles are a clear violation of previous agreements.
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I am suffering from "Sh*t or get off the pot" syndrome.
If we're going to do this, let's get on with it.
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I still hold to my "Lets get UN approval before we go in" just so we don't have to listen to the whining, squeaking sniveling "World" why we pummel Iraq again.
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If he strikes Isreal all bets are off. They will not be restrained this time by Bush and they will launch 1 or more of their 200+ nukes. Then Katey Bar the Door.
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Report was pretty much 'status quo'. Iraq have drip fed information that should have been declared earlier.
IMHO, US should pull out, make France sign a document making it legally responsible for Iraq's Compliance. Should Iraq in the next 10 years violate any UN resolutions France should bare costs of enforcement, and should Iraq in the next 10 years use those weapons then those diplomats from France should face a War Crimes Tribunal.
The French actually admitted on the BBC this morning that pressure from the US the only reason Iraq has responded in any way.
The amusing thing is Blix said this new missile is clearly in violation, and should be destroyed, to which Iraq flicked him the 'finger'.
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Bush has a gun to Saddam's head.
Even if Iraq complies with everything, do we bring home 100k+ soldiers?
Can anyone think of a peaceful and acceptable solution to this thing? Other than assassinating Saddam?
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According to MT assassinations are "peaceful and acceptable"
muahahahaah, that is ALMOST sig line material, but Im afraid Gsholts said something funnier than that...
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Sure.
Saddam steps down, we install an oversight government, dissolve iraq, reconstitute kurdish, toejame and sunni states in it's place and we go home.
Or, we blow the toejam outta saddam and his military and do the same thing anyway.
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I like the wry humor of acquiescing to the French & Russian requests for more time by announcing that we're withdrawing all troops from the area and standing down the Northern and Southern no-fly zones.
Then let's see how much progress the UN Inspectors make. :D
Any bets on Iraqi compliance?
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blix is why there is no french baseball .....
the first batter would still be at the plate..
"STRIKE 7,421!..."
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guys, dont blame Blix.
Seriously wtf is he supposed to do? He cant bloody well make up evdience and you can bet your bellybutton the Iraqis isnt exactly helping him.
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Originally posted by Eagler
blix is why there is no french baseball .....
the first batter would still be at the plate..
"STRIKE 7,421!..."
Isn't Blix Swedish?
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Yup.
He is one of the few... the happy few...the magnificent heirs to the mighty Vikings...the proud masters of the sea, the land, the air...
hrm
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Yup.
He is one of the few... the happy few...the magnificent heirs to the mighty Vikings...the proud masters of the sea, the land, the air...
hrm
hehe... so am I.. :p
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Yeah, I knew you'd like that one. What was it...grandmother from Sweden?
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just heard today the UN inspectors are not allowed on military bases? now where would you likely find "weapons"?
iraq said the U-2 can fly but UN has to tell iraq when and where the flights are going ahead of time.
a large iraq column has moved south to 2 miles from kuwait border, this is good , no collateral damage in desert, ...... or , maybe they want to first to surrender.
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Originally posted by john9001
a large iraq column has moved south to 2 miles from kuwait border, this is good , no collateral damage in desert, ...... or , maybe they want to first to surrender.
Isnt that where the (some of the) Iraqi oil fields are?
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Yeah, I knew you'd like that one. What was it...grandmother from Sweden?
Dad's Dad, Paternal Grandfather. Member of the Stockholm Guard and a WW1 Vet. Did Sweden take part in WW1? Family history is muddy about this part of his life. I know he went AWOL from the Stockholm Guard and jumped a ship to America. Not sure if that was before or after WW1. He died in a Train accident in 1928 when Dad was 2.
My last name ends in the same 4 letters as yours.
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-lund is a very common ending in Sweden, same with -son.
No, Sweden was not involved in WW1. I wonder why he deserted like that. Maybe it was the adventure of a new nation or something.
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Isnt that where the (some of the) Iraqi oil fields are?
and; where the kuwaiti fields are.
remember all that smoke when they lit the wells last time? degrades our laser targeting systems.
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My guess is that he wanted to go to War. His sister was still alive until recently, and she said he served in WW1. Maybe that was his motivation.
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(http://prodtn.cafepress.com/8/4362458_F_tn.jpg)
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Yes, that might be it. Its in our genes MT ;)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
remember all that smoke when they lit the wells last time? degrades our laser targeting systems.
Ooo, no it doesn't Mr. Hangtime.
We were getting 3-4k Tank kills, in the last game.
:D
(Sniff.....sort of brings a tear to my eye.)
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Report was pretty much 'status quo'. Iraq have drip fed information that should have been declared earlier.
IMHO, US should pull out, make France sign a document making it legally responsible for Iraq's Compliance. Should Iraq in the next 10 years violate any UN resolutions France should bare costs of enforcement, and should Iraq in the next 10 years use those weapons then those diplomats from France should face a War Crimes Tribunal.
The French actually admitted on the BBC this morning that pressure from the US the only reason Iraq has responded in any way.
The amusing thing is Blix said this new missile is clearly in violation, and should be destroyed, to which Iraq flicked him the 'finger'.
Wouldn't be a bad idea actually :)
This whole episode with Iraq just shows what a complete joke the United Nations is. What's the point of giving deadlines and threats, which all countries supported, if they're not going to stand firm and stick to what they originally said.
A good point was that Iraq are supposed to be disarming, to give up their weapons, not just wait and see if the UN are lucky enough to find them.