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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on February 14, 2003, 12:34:52 PM
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Selection begins 2/24/03.
I know, I know..its my civic duty...but just imagine..if you knew me, and saw me sitting in the Jury box for YOUR trial. :D:D
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Same day for me too. Hope its not like last time, alternate on a capital case, ick.
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What are the odds of two "Death Rattlers" sitting in on a Capital Murder case on Feb. 24th, 2003?
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Somehow, Ripsnort, I think the defense will weed you out of any criminal cases in the voir dire process
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Jury Duty scared the hell out of me.. not because of the eternal boredom of sitting in a room for many days on end waiting for a case..but the people sitting in the room with me.. oh my god..think 'Cletus' from the Simpsons...that pretty much sums it up..the folks who think the 10 bucks a day is better than their normal existance...
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Anyone who is too stupid to get out of jury duty is too stupid to judge me.
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Who the hell would let amateurs (not meant as a personal offence here) judge!?
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That bald head staring at the defendant would be pretty ugly.
And yes you are a bad parent!!!!:D :D :D
Tommy (indn) Toon
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americans obviously...as for getting stuck come up with a good way to get out of it...lets just say that you used to be best freinds with the guy...
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Originally posted by Airhead
Anyone who is too stupid to get out of jury duty is too stupid to judge me.
Pre-emptive strike? ;)
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Finished up my 2 1/2 weeks of jury duty Rip, so good luck.
As far as being too stupid to get out of it,...I am smart enough to realize that being dishonest is not a good way to live.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Finished up my 2 1/2 weeks of jury duty Rip, so good luck.
As far as being too stupid to get out of it,...I am smart enough to realize that being dishonest is not a good way to live.
The first thought was "I could probably get out of it"...then immediately that little angel sitting on the other shoulder said "its your civic duty".
I haven't served on a Jury since 1984...I was recently bragging to a co-worker that "its been almost 20 years!" and boom, I get a letter. Hehe, jinxed myself. Incidently, the other 2 times I've summoned I was selected for the jury.
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well you could allways just agree with everyone else and get it over and done with as fast as possible...
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Originally posted by vorticon
well you could allways just agree with everyone else and get it over and done with as fast as possible...
LOL, the Jury selection process is first, I'm not on a jury yet, don't count me as "dead" yet! The body is still warm! :D
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Finished up my 2 1/2 weeks of jury duty Rip, so good luck.
As far as being too stupid to get out of it,...I am smart enough to realize that being dishonest is not a good way to live.
It was a joke Skuzzy- take a pill.
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Always used to get out of it due to financial hardship. (Was a single parent).
Now I have a job that supports jury duty and I have never been called since I started here.
I'd love to serve.
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Did it a couple of months ago. Was a misdemeanor that never should have been brought to trial. Full day of testimony, ten minutes discussion to turn him loose.
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You're lucky. I had 3 months serving on the criminal grand jury for my county. I must say it was pretty interesting stuff since we had multiple cases, and grand jurists get to ask questions of the witnesses.
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Heheh that angel can be a squeak eh Ripsnort?
Like when I came home to Denmark after living in Sweden all those years. An election came up, but I dinnae know anything about the parties so I couldn't vote and have a clear conscience about it. 1-0 to angel.
On the election day, I still went and cast an empty ballot. People have died defending my right to do so, and it'd be a slight to them if I did not exercise my rights and duties. 2-0 to angel.
Most Danes seem to see it the same way. Attendance is usually 80-90 per cent. With the US running at 40-50, I guess it's clear that Danes aren't as disillusioned with politicians as Americans.
Easier to rule a small relatively wealthy yet non influencial country, I gather.
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Originally posted by StSanta
Most Danes seem to see it the same way. Attendance is usually 80-90 per cent. With the US running at 40-50, I guess it's clear that Danes aren't as disillusioned with politicians as Americans.
In the US one vote is 1/250000000th (not taking into account that sometimes the guy with less votes wins anyway), in Denmar it's about 50 times as much.
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Bring something to read. Time drags on and on and on.
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the lawyer that allows him in a jury will be hard to find.
they avouid hi iq folks and how shall i say it? am talkshow listeners.
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"Always used to get out of it due to financial hardship. (Was a single parent).
Now I have a job that supports jury duty and I have never been called since I started here.
I'd love to serve.
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Midnight Tahgut "
bet the new guy is a gun owner.
lazs
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go dressed as a mafia hitman:D darken around your eyes then glare at the defence for making you go the entire time your there...
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personaly I'd love to be able to serve on a jury.
unfortunatly they won't let you say "I'm available from december through feb each winter". I've got 2 summons for jury duty both in may. with my work I usually am working 7 days a week 12 hours a day in may and am still broke from sitting around all winter. can't really afford to miss the work. if I had a more steady income or they wanted me to serve when I could afford to I'd gladly go.
btw- does it seem to you guys that the same people who squeak the loudest about stupid court settlements are the ones who would never let them selves get 'stuck' with jury duty.
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I think that we should have professional jurors.
You would need a 4 year degree and have to pass a watered down bar type exam. Jurors would be randomly selected for each case and could not be "deselected" by lawyers. They would work full time and recieve fair salaries.
The Exon Valdez oil spill trial lasted about a year (if I recall). I'm not too sure about the exact details, but I believe many or most of the jurors either divorced or lost their businesses within a year of the trial ending.
I think the benifit of the current system does not meet the cost imposed on many inocent victoms... the jurors.
eskimo
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Tell ya the truth, just be honest. I'd sit there with some string and make a few hangman knots, hehe :D
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eskimo, what you describe is what we have here.
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You would need a 4 year degree and have to pass a watered down bar type exam. Jurors would be randomly selected for each case and could not be "deselected" by lawyers. They would work full time and recieve fair salaries.
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the judge is suposed to know the law and make sure it's followed. the jury needs to be 'of your peers'. sort of a 'where his actions reasonable', 'what would I have done in his shoes' thing.
if it required a 4 year degree then people without money wouldn't be fairly represented.
not that they are now (if you're broke how do you afford a decent attny) but having all the jurists be people who can afford an education makes it worse.
as an example.
say you live in a bad part of town. a guy comes upto you on the street (waiting until you where in a spot that is mostly out of sight to the average passer-by) he asks if you have a couple bucks you can borrow, you see a screwdriver in his pocket, you have nowwhere ot run, but a very small window to attack him.
anyone from my part of town would realize you where about to be mugged and find anything you did to this guy at that point reasonable.
most people who make enough cash to afford a decent education would wonder if he just needed cab fare.
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1. You tell the defense lawyer that since his client was arrested in the first place he is probably guilty of something.
2. You tell the prosecutor that you have had run ins with cops that think they are gods and a lot of times they are wrong.
3. You tell the judge that since you have already served your country in the military for x amount of years that thay should get some one that hasn't to replace you.
4. You go home or to jail, or wind up on the jury anyway.
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Some of the responses here are really pathetic. This is a duty that is easy to serve and allows you to be a part of the justice system. You can help be a solution but instead many here just put selfish interests ahead of service.
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I always show up late on selection day and get released because of to many have shown up that day.
I would have a problem paying attention, get bored way to easy quit listening and would fall asleep easily. So I try hard to get kicked off. got off once cause wife worked for insurance and it was a injury case. Next time showed up right as they were to close doors and got sent home so next time I will do same thing. It may be civil duty but ill get put in jail for sleeping.
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Capt Apathy, here in the UK, you are allowed to defer jury service. Can you not do so in the US? Try writing back - you've nothing to lose.
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I called them the last time I got selected. they had no problem understanding that since I make half of my anual income in 12 weeks of the year that it would be a huge hardship on my family for me to serve during those weeks.
when I explained that I had alot of free time at other times of the year and would be more than happy to serve then, they said that they have no provision to record that. they just take your name off the list and see when their computer selects you again.
too bad, not only do I think it's your duty to serve if you can, I'd honestly be interested to see the process work for real.
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Here in the county I live in (Tarrant in Texas) the first thing you meat is this ugly mean bellybutton squeak and they treat you like toejam if you set there all day. You cant even leave unless they give you permission. They also cram you into a room that cant hold the number of people they call. some stand for hours ohter sit down against the wall. So Jury duty is not a great thing to experience. I happen to work for a company that pay you while you are on the jury as long as it a short one.
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Ya know, I actually wouldn't mind sitting on a jury for a bit. I've never been called up for duty, go figure. I guess the computer knows something about me i've been trying to hide :D
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FWIW, in my county, if not all of Texas, financial hardship does not excuse you from jury duty. Most probably don't want to serve, I know I don't, but where the hell would we be if everyone served only their self interests without looking at the bigger picture?