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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Habu on February 16, 2003, 06:20:54 PM
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You know seeing all those protesters on the news today got me thinking.
I was a believer in doing what is right regardless of what some others may think. I mean if you are right and working for the greater good then perhaps you should follow your heart, even if some will fight you for doing so. I used to believe that the protestors were a mix of the mislead and uninformed combined with the stupid gullible and those with secret agendas.
But then I thought what if we did it their way? The protesters I mean.
Perhaps it is only by using discussion, criticism and reasoning that we can really foster correct ideas, overcome wrong ideas and really settle issues.
If we lived by those words then we really would be able to create a paradise on earth. Right?
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Originally posted by Habu
Perhaps it is only by using discussion, criticism and reasoning that we can really foster correct ideas, overcome wrong ideas and really settle issues.
If we lived by those words then we really would be able to create a paradise on earth. Right?
In a perfect world, yes..I would agree with you.
Unfortunately Sadaam Hussein is a madman who thinks nothing of killing anyone who gets in his way. Criticism? Ask yourself what happened to Hussein's son-in-law. Remember him? He was the guy who defected to Jordan with his wife. They returned to Iraq after being convinced that they would be unharmed and welcomed home. A helicopter whisked him away moments after his return. Not surprisingly he has never been seen or heard from again.
It is a well documented fact that Sadaam has personally executed political opposition.
Sorry, but it ain't going to work with this guy...ever.
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Originally posted by Habu
Perhaps it is only by using discussion, criticism and reasoning that we can really foster correct ideas, overcome wrong ideas and really settle issues.
If we lived by those words then we really would be able to create a paradise on earth. Right?
We have, for 12 years we have.
There comes a time where diplomats must step aside and allow the solider to do his job. I do not think we are there yet, but we are close.
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If we lived by those words then we really would be able to create a paradise on earth. Right?
heaven loves rational souls.
It is a well documented fact that Sadaam has personally executed political opposition.
Yah know.. CIA should be workin this problem with '60's logic.
We'll give him a coupla million, a sack of heroin and send him to Paris with a nuke disquised as an oil well.
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Dump Isreal and most, if not all, of our problems on the world stage will go away.
I would not for a moment, give my life or the life of any american for isreal. Leave that part of the world. Its a trash heap. Support the pursuit of new energy for consumption. Leave the oil to the arabs. Lets move on before the whole world is torn apart by those religious morons.
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you mean.. leave saddam for the french?
wow.
Yeag; you astound me. thats a capital idea!
Oh, man.. thats too good!!
Lets get the diddly outta the region entirely.. and let France and europe deal with the ragheads..
oh, toejam; this is awsome!!
TOAD!!!!!!
can this work?? think we can get outta nato, get outta the middle east and just let France and their butt monkeys have the whole ball of tears?
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Originally posted by Yeager
Dump Isreal and most, if not all, of our problems on the world stage will go away.
I would not for a moment, give my life or the life of any american for isreal. Leave that part of the world. Its a trash heap. Support the pursuit of new energy for consumption. Leave the oil to the arabs. Lets move on before the whole world is torn apart by those religious morons.
i absolutely agree
let them deal with their problems.
if we just left everyone alone in turn we'd be left alone.
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Quote:"if we just left everyone alone in turn we'd be left alone."
Dream on.:rolleyes:
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Problem with that exit strategy is...oil.
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We got oil....if the damn tree huggers would just shut up and let us drill for it.
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The problem with the protesters is that when you listen to GWB and Powel telling the world that there is a threat to world peace and Saddam has to go, it is easy for them to make all kinds of nice slogans and equate war with killing babies etc.
However they can wax eloquent on the utopian path to solve the worlds problems.
What would your rather have your leader say?
It is only by using discussion, criticism and reasoning that we can really foster correct ideas, overcome wrong ideas and really settle issues.
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We must choose between a world of fear and a world of progress. We cannot stand by and do nothing while dangers gather. We must stand up for our security, and for the permanent rights and the hopes of mankind. By heritage and by choice, the United States of America will make that stand.
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Maybe their way is the right way.
Bedways is rigthways now, so best we go homeways and get a bit of spatchka. Right, right.
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anybody remember/know what happened the last time the USA tried isolationism?
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Habu - out of interest, where are you from?
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Don't tell him Habu, make him judge you by the content of your posts rather than the terrain beneath your feet.
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I don't care if he lives on sedimentary sandstone or basalt, or half way up a mountain. I'm just interested in where the guy comes from. He seems to have an axe to grind against the French, so maybe there's a North African connection?
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a search give Toronto Canada.
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Originally posted by sling322
We got oil....if the damn tree huggers would just shut up and let us drill for it.
Not exactly the tree huggers .. just that you can't make money drilling Oil in the US ... too much taxes expensies Etc... my faimily used to Own quite a few wells in the 80's until it started costing more to run them than they were makeing off them....most haven't started pumping agin, since then, in TX.
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It is only by using discussion, criticism and reasoning that we can really foster correct ideas, overcome wrong ideas and really settle issues.
Chairman Mao 1956
We must choose between a world of fear and a world of progress. We cannot stand by and do nothing while dangers gather. We must stand up for our security, and for the permanent rights and the hopes of mankind. By heritage and by choice, the United States of America will make that stand.
George Bush Speach to the United Nations
Personally I am more comfortable going with the second guy myself. Especially considering what Mao did to China in the 10 years after that quote.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Habu - out of interest, where are you from?
Dowding I will tell you if you tell me where the State of Faded Glory is.
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Originally posted by Habu
Dowding I will tell you if you tell me where the State of Faded Glory is.
Its near Shefield in England. Boy..that was just too easy.:D