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Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Swoop on February 16, 2003, 06:28:09 PM
Everyone seen it now?  


Good.  No denying ya didnt know next time.


(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: maxtor on February 17, 2003, 09:01:35 AM
Too many think it is cute.

(http://marineairwingah.homestead.com/files/goonAttack1.JPG)

Despite hitech saying:


Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Its acctualy not a bug, Troops are exactly the same as other weapons with the exception of 1 thing. They are brodcast to everyone because they can be killed, bombs and rockets are brodcast to only people in the area of the drop.

Now do a little math of say a 20 person troop drop with 500 people on line.

20 * 8 = 160
160 * 500 = 80000

So suddenly the servers trying to blast out 80000 messages all at once. Debating how to aleviate the bottle neck.

HiTech


I just don't understand some people - but not a damn thing we can do about it.
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Post by: Strange on February 17, 2003, 09:07:36 AM
Ahh... lunch!!!!   Were my Jug when I need it..
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Post by: thrila on February 17, 2003, 09:10:04 AM
I hope that wasn't the one that killed the server last night maxtor.:(
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Post by: sling322 on February 17, 2003, 09:34:53 AM
Why am I not surprised that the MAWs are involved?
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Post by: Yeager on February 17, 2003, 09:51:29 AM
The problem with the MAWs is that that are just too damned many of them.  Like lemmings.  I never bother to try and remember their after names.  To me they are just "MAWs"

Funny when you give a MAW a check six over vox.  I say "MAW, check six!" Invariably thirty planes are spiriling to the ground ;)
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Post by: Hornet on February 17, 2003, 10:52:46 AM
remove field capture
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Post by: Saurdaukar on February 17, 2003, 11:43:34 AM
Only in nitland.
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Post by: Ripsnort on February 17, 2003, 12:05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Only in nitland.


I beg to differ...if you know anything about AH history, this was first performed by a rook squadron in the early days.
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Post by: whels on February 17, 2003, 12:21:36 PM
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Originally posted by maxtor
Too many think it is cute.

(http://marineairwingah.homestead.com/files/goonAttack1.JPG)

Despite hitech saying:


 

I just don't understand some people - but not a damn thing we can do about it.


if that was done last night, when the server crashed. then eeveryone in the pic should be banned from AH for a month.
most of the know/knew it would lag the server bad, and HT didnt
like people doing it.  They did it on purpose, it should cost them.
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Post by: Flossy on February 17, 2003, 12:25:59 PM
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Originally posted by whels
if that was done last night
No, that particular picture was posted here a few days ago.....

[edit]er, make that last year, on November 21st....  :)
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70419   [/edit]
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Post by: maxtor on February 17, 2003, 12:41:05 PM
Didnt realize the age of that particular picture - but this practice is indeed still going on by various offenders with some regularity.    If anything people are getting more creative - I saw a ground based variation on the same theme by some folks in m3's over the weekend.
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Post by: TAILGUNNR on February 17, 2003, 12:43:22 PM
Hmm whats up with all the MAWS in that pic?
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Post by: Ripsnort on February 17, 2003, 12:46:52 PM
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Originally posted by TAILGUNNR
Hmm whats up with all the MAWS in that pic?

Ummm, I'm guessing it was a squad? :)

The MAW's have flown with VMF-323 and MAG-33 for knightland for along time. Its a pleasure to be hooked up with the MAW's in any mission. They are very professional in execution. MAW's!
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Post by: icemaw on February 17, 2003, 12:59:45 PM
You know I have seen this performed by every country at one time or another.  Blaming us for it just lame. I have never been involved with a mass goon drop that didnt involve a reset. In case you dont realize when a reset happens the server chokes and everyone gets booted. As far as the negitive comments about my squad {insert rude comments here} I hate you guys I hate you guys III HHAATTEE YYYOOOUUU GGGUUYYSSS there now I have sunk to your level I feel so soiled.

 I dont care what your score is I dont care how good you think you are. Not one of you could hold a candle to anyone in my squad. I dont mean percived skill at this game we play I am talking about the band of brothers that I live with everynight. My freinds my squaddies if you dont like the Marine Air Wing fine that means we are doing our job very well. Did you ever think maybe you are not as popular as you think you are.  Maybe your the bigest salamander that has ever soiled the planet I think maybe you need to take a good hard look in the mirror.


Hmm just thought of a way to use mass goon drops. Hmm when ever some country is about to get a reset we up 100 goons and drop over frndly base server crashes no reset for you. Hmm I like it yup gonna do it tonight. I wonder if that would work at a base under mass attack instead  of upping fighters for defense just up goons and leave troops on the runway hmm lots of good ideas to pork everyones fun. I wonder if 80000 torpedos would do it or maybe couple 100000 rockets all fired at once. Or 100 lanc forms all droping 18 1000lbs each I wonder if that would pork the server. Anyone else have any ideas on how to make the server crash.  If we are gonna be blamed for it we might as well do it. If your gonna do the time might as well commit the crime.

 You know I normally have a lot of respect for the rest of the AH comunity. I try to play this game and have fun with respect to the rest of the players and the CM's but I read this board and see so little respect by a few to the rest I think why bother. Then it occurs to me cause I am better than them. Yes I am talking to you!
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Post by: Shane on February 17, 2003, 01:03:42 PM
seems someone wasn't paying much attention when a certain someone in a certain squad got banned for a month for posting (in jest) a "hack."

you know what they say about history....
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Post by: SlapShot on February 17, 2003, 01:03:57 PM
<> Rip !!!

That pic was taken by me and as Flossy pointed out ... it was quite some time ago. Would have been nice if Maxtor pointed that out when posting the picture, so as not to cause confusion and accusations suchs as Whels'.

As soon as it was pointed out to us (a few days after that drop) that massive goons drops, such as that, cause havoc with the server, we HAVE NOT and WILL NOT do it again.

40DogMAW is the commander of the MAW, I am just the CO for the MAW Blacksheep Wing, but I can say with all certainty, that the MAW would never do anything, intentionally, to cause HTC or the community problems.

'Nuff said ...
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Post by: Shane on February 17, 2003, 01:10:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
but I can say with all certainty, that the MAW would never do anything, intentionally, to cause HTC or the community problems.

'Nuff said ...


you might wanna pass that along to icemaw.

:D
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Post by: Ripsnort on February 17, 2003, 01:10:48 PM
Knights usually do a "Valkries" Mission on special days...it started with D-Day a couple years back, then expanded to days like Christmas day and New Years day.  However, lately the community has grown so large that now its apparent the servers can't handle this...I think I won't post anymore of these missions on special occasions since apparently HTC hasn't quite got a handle on this server lock up issue.

But double check with me again on June 6th this year. ;)
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Post by: icemaw on February 17, 2003, 01:11:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Ummm, I'm guessing it was a squad? :)

The MAW's have flown with VMF-323 and MAG-33 for knightland for along time. Its a pleasure to be hooked up with the MAW's in any mission. They are very professional in execution. MAW's!


Same goes for the MAG and the rest of the squads I respect USMC AK's 56 firebirds and a lot I cant think of right now 13TAS even tho some of them dont respect us.

 If mass goon drops crash the server fix it make troops unable to be killed. No more reason for mass goon drops. As long 1 guy can blow tru 100 fighters and suicide on one troop and spoil a base capture and or a reset that thousands have worked on for hours days or weeks you are gonna see mass goon drops. Period end of story and shut up about it allready.  

 To my knowledge whining has never fixed a single problem in the history of the universe.  Proactive thinking and actions fix problems.
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Post by: SlapShot on February 17, 2003, 01:17:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
seems someone wasn't paying much attention when a certain someone in a certain squad got banned for a month for posting (in jest) a "hack."

you know what they say about history....


Mighty neighborly of you to point that out Shane ... I'll bet no one is surprised ... :rolleyes:

iceMAW is probably one the most respectable players that I have met and anybody who has flown with ice and knows ice, knows that his ideas on how to crash the server, were "tongue and cheek", and you know it. Yet you try to drag up some crap that may light a fire under HT so that he may even consider banning ice was probably the lowest I have seen you sink in your constant diarrhetic diatribes you bestow upon this BB.

I'll bet that most people "know what they say about history" ... its obvious that you don't.
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Post by: maxtor on February 17, 2003, 01:18:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by icemaw
...Proactive thinking and actions fix problems.


...or creates them in first place.
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Post by: Shane on February 17, 2003, 01:33:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
Mighty neighborly of you to point that out Shane ... I'll bet no one is surprised ... :rolleyes:
iceMAW is probably one the most respectable players that I have met and anybody who has flown with ice and knows ice, knows that his ideas on how to crash the server, were "tongue and cheek", and you know it. Yet you try to drag up some crap that may light a fire under HT so that he may even consider banning ice was probably the lowest I have seen you sink in your constant diarrhetic diatribes you bestow upon this BB.


i don't tell HTC what to do at all, or even suggest it.  if you took your head out of your ass, you'd notice i didn't quote icemaw, giving him all the opportunity in the world to edit his remarks.

doesn't matter if it's "tongue in cheek" or not from what i gathered from that one-month ban incident; even if icemaw has no intention of doing these things, he just pointed it out how it can be done, which is just as bad as doing it himself. or rather, let me say that icemaw gave motivations for doing it.

and frankly i don't give a flying fug what you think my motivations for posting a reminder are. you should be thanking me and having icemaw edit his remarks.  

btw who was the tardlet who dragged this subject back out into the forefront the other day?  and you're surprised it's created yet another thread about the subject?

re-read icemaw's 2nd post and his take on the entire subject.

and tardwad, find one post by me within the past 2 months that are "your constant diarrhetic diatribes you bestow upon this BB."



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Post by: Gloves on February 17, 2003, 01:39:08 PM
How about a little programming that would make this kind of fun.  Say, if there are already 40 troops for one country (this is just my number, if another works better - fine) either in the air or on the ground, then any other troops for that country become suicide bombers the instant they jump out - blowing up themselves, any nearby troops and the transport they were on.  :D

Maybe not feasible (certainly not realistic), but it would put a stop to stuff like this.
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Post by: akak on February 17, 2003, 01:40:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
Mighty neighborly of you to point that out Shane ... I'll bet no one is surprised ... :rolleyes:

iceMAW is probably one the most respectable players that I have met and anybody who has flown with ice and knows ice, knows that his ideas on how to crash the server, were "tongue and cheek", and you know it. Yet you try to drag up some crap that may light a fire under HT so that he may even consider banning ice was probably the lowest I have seen you sink in your constant diarrhetic diatribes you bestow upon this BB.

I'll bet that most people "know what they say about history" ... its obvious that you don't.



I don't think Shane was trying to 'light a fire' under HiTech's bellybutton and get IceMAW banned.  Shane was just trying to remind IceMAW that talk like that might be actioned againts, just like it was to one of upstanding members of The Damned not so long ago when he made his 'tongue and cheek' post.


Ack-Ack
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Post by: Rude on February 17, 2003, 01:48:59 PM
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13TAS even tho some of them dont respect us.


What's this about?
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Post by: SlapShot on February 17, 2003, 01:56:57 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
i don't tell HTC what to do at all, or even suggest it.  if you took your head out of your ass, you'd notice i didn't quote icemaw, giving him all the opportunity in the world to edit his remarks.

doesn't matter if it's "tongue in cheek" or not from what i gathered from that one-month ban incident; even if icemaw has no intention of doing these things, he just pointed it out how it can be done, which is just as bad as doing it himself. or rather, let me say that icemaw gave motivations for doing it.

and frankly i don't give a flying fug what you think my motivations for posting a reminder are. you should be thanking me and having icemaw edit his remarks.  

btw who was the tardlet who dragged this subject back out into the forefront the other day?  and you're surprised it's created yet another thread about the subject?

re-read icemaw's 2nd post and his take on the entire subject.

and tardwad, find one post by me within the past 2 months that are "your constant diarrhetic diatribes you bestow upon this BB."


Oh, I know, and everybody knows, that Shane doesn't give a fug about anybody but Shane.

I am sure that ice will be indebted to you for life ... such a honorable act on your part.

Shane .. you are as tranparent as glass !!!

Boy ... doesn't take much for you to drop straight into typical child-type name calling ... does it ? People that use such tactics really intimidate the crap out of me ... I am sorry Shane to have confronted you on the subject ... NOT  ... LOL !!!
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Post by: SlapShot on February 17, 2003, 02:00:04 PM
akak .. A private email to ice could/would have served the same purpose.
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Post by: vorticon on February 17, 2003, 02:05:51 PM
is it just me or have the MAWS been a part of almost everysingle one of those mass goondrops...
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Post by: icemaw on February 17, 2003, 02:12:02 PM
I do not want to pork the server I do not want anyone to pork the server. If pointing out that the Marine Air Wing is not the only one's to have done a mass goon drop and standing up for my squad gets me banned then so be it. I stand be my convictions. I DO NOT CHEAT I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING INTENTIONAL TO HARM THE SERVER OR THE GAME OR ANYONES FUN. I WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING TO HARM THE SERVER OR CHEAT OR RUIN ANYONES FUN. I realize how serious hitech is about cheating and commend him and his company for doing thier utmost to stop it.


 As these are most likley the last words I might ever post. Its been fun see ya. =S=
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Post by: Apache on February 17, 2003, 02:14:19 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
is it just me or have the MAWS been a part of almost everysingle one of those mass goondrops...


Just you. Those silly mass goon drops were going on before they (MAW) even came to AH.
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Post by: BNM on February 17, 2003, 02:15:04 PM
This entire thread is stupid .... did I say that? :p
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Post by: icemaw on February 17, 2003, 02:16:37 PM
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Originally posted by Rude
What's this about?


 Dont know rude ask Yeager.
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Post by: Blue Mako on February 17, 2003, 02:21:01 PM
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Originally posted by icemaw
In case you dont realize when a reset happens the server chokes and everyone gets booted.


Actually Ice, this is not what happens.  When a reset occurs the server dumps everyone to reset the terrain.  It does not "choke" and lock up.  Doing a mass goon drop, however, does lock up the server.

Completely different end result as those that are on when the server locks get their computers locked up etc.

To deliberately do this is in the very least highly inconsiderate to your fellow players, no matter what excuses everyone can dream up.

And further to your post about doing the same with bombs or torps etc, HiTechs explanation shows that only troops are broadcast to everyone in the arena so ordinary ordinance will not have the same effect...
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Post by: HFMudd on February 17, 2003, 02:21:47 PM
Somehow I suspect that this thread is about become locked...

Anyway, before it does:

Hitech, presumably you can tell how many of a given object there is in a given area at one time?  How about simply setting a limit on the number of troops that can be dropped at a given time.  Once that limit is exceded you get a system message that says, "Sorry, too many troops." at the time one tries to drop them?  That way, a mission could still have many transports but the transports would need to wait their turn to drop.
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Post by: icemaw on February 17, 2003, 03:08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Actually Ice, this is not what happens.  When a reset occurs the server dumps everyone to reset the terrain.  It does not "choke" and lock up.  Doing a mass goon drop, however, does lock up the server.

Completely different end result as those that are on when the server locks get their computers locked up etc.

To deliberately do this is in the very least highly inconsiderate to your fellow players, no matter what excuses everyone can dream up.

And further to your post about doing the same with bombs or torps etc, HiTechs explanation shows that only troops are broadcast to everyone in the arena so ordinary ordinance will not have the same effect...


 Yes I realize all of the above and perhaps could have worded my post better. How ever as I pointed out I have never and will never do anything to intentionally pork the server the game or anyones fun. If I gave any potential cheaters out ther any idea's this I regret very very much! How ever anyone intending on cheating wont need my idea's or words to do it. The cheater will find his own way to hose everyone he can. Its in his nature he cant help it.

 I think I have some idea how einstien felt when he let the nucular genie out of the bottle. Not having any idea on how to put it back nor any idea if he should try.
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Post by: Shane on February 17, 2003, 03:19:29 PM
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Originally posted by icemaw
Yes I realize all of the above and perhaps could have worded my post better.  Not having any idea on how to put it back nor any idea if he should try.


here's a free clue for you.

see those two buttons up in the right hand side? "edit" and "quote"?

i see you know how to use "quote"  try and click "edit"  on the post you want to, ummm, welll.... edit.

when you do that, you'll find you actually have two options, one is to simply edit your post, the other is a box in the upper left saying "delete post"  you can check that box then "delete now" and presto that particular genie is back in the bottle.

or as i said you can edit, an dthen click "save changes" and presto, the genie is capped to the extent you edited it as long as no one down thread quoted you.

too bad good ole swapspit didn't bother to clue you in.
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Post by: SlapShot on February 17, 2003, 03:39:27 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
here's a free clue for you.


Nothing comes "free" from you Shane ... the price is always some sort of sarcastic remark or some childlike name calling.
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Post by: muckmaw on February 17, 2003, 04:03:08 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Nothing comes "free" from you Shane ... the price is always some sort of sarcastic remark or some childlike name calling.


Slapshot-

Why bother?

We all know how much respect Shane garners on this board.Let him talk to himself.

Theres a select few on this board that do nothing but spew nonsensical drivel. Simply ignore them. They won't go away, but you'll find arguing with them is equivalent to debating a toddler.

Your time is much more valuable than that.
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Post by: MrLars on February 17, 2003, 05:29:16 PM
I haven't flown this TOD but if I was to take a virtual plane up on one of the few times I get to fly and I saw a massive goon mission I'd be torn about either reporting their field of origin and possible target on Ch1 OR logging so that the server lockup doesn't screw me.

Most likely I'll chose to announce on Ch1 since a server lockup will adversly affect everyone in the arena....something that should be avoided at all costs.

So, goon ahead, make my day!
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Post by: Hornet on February 17, 2003, 05:43:46 PM
Either
1. remove field capture (just glory for the milkrunners anyhow)
2. group all the troops into 1 chalk, like a supply drop....1 target. So 10 dweebs in goons only add 10 targets.
3. outlaw squadnights or any other sort of "strategry".

Otherwise, good thread, tho from now on I think everyone should be required to talk in only caps...we are working on a 2 page thread flaming each other about gooney birds after all.
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Post by: Hornet on February 17, 2003, 05:47:26 PM
oh and...

DSL Internet Access: $55.00
HTC subscription: $14.95

Being in a hot C-Hog 1k back from the MAW in that screenshot...priceless :D

come on...who else saw that pic and thought fighter pilot nirvana??
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Post by: funkedup on February 17, 2003, 05:57:55 PM
:)
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Post by: Vulcan on February 17, 2003, 06:20:35 PM
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Actually Ice, this is not what happens.  When a reset occurs the server dumps everyone to reset the terrain.  It does not "choke" and lock up.  Doing a mass goon drop, however, does lock up the server.

Completely different end result as those that are on when the server locks get their computers locked up etc.

To deliberately do this is in the very least highly inconsiderate to your fellow players, no matter what excuses everyone can dream up.

And further to your post about doing the same with bombs or torps etc, HiTechs explanation shows that only troops are broadcast to everyone in the arena so ordinary ordinance will not have the same effect...


Actually Blue, that WAS what was happening, as well as the mass goon drops. When a terrain was won and the server started to do the you have 5 minutes to land your sorry arses thing then chokes appeared.

I believe this is what prompted the change to a daily score update from the old realtime score update. At the time these chokes were happening AH had started getting big numbers in the arena. Think about it, 600 people all landing, realtime score updates and sorting... bam!

You might owe Ice an apology :)
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Post by: sling322 on February 17, 2003, 06:32:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet
oh and...

DSL Internet Access: $55.00
HTC subscription: $14.95

Being in a hot C-Hog 1k back from the MAW in that screenshot...priceless :D

come on...who else saw that pic and thought fighter pilot nirvana??


Heh....we did a mass goon flight at the con 2 yrs ago.  I dont remember who the pilot was who found us, but he got a crapload of kills in a very short amount of time that night.
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Post by: poopster on February 17, 2003, 07:11:22 PM
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equivalent to debating a toddler

:D

Cool !!!

Let me get my pants pulled up and the snot of my face and will go a round..
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Post by: Blue Mako on February 17, 2003, 08:36:37 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Actually Blue, that WAS what was happening, as well as the mass goon drops. When a terrain was won and the server started to do the you have 5 minutes to land your sorry arses thing then chokes appeared.

I believe this is what prompted the change to a daily score update from the old realtime score update. At the time these chokes were happening AH had started getting big numbers in the arena. Think about it, 600 people all landing, realtime score updates and sorting... bam!

You might owe Ice an apology :)


Only going on my own experience Vulcan, never saw this happen without the mass gooning...
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Post by: Aub on February 17, 2003, 09:45:48 PM
Shane can't do anything right in your egotistical-bloated head world, can he?

He's trying to do your bud a favor, and PREVENT him from getting his bellybutton booted out of this game. What do you do? You try and drag into a flame-fest.

Look, maw dweebs, you were the first to start using personal insults against Shane, and then you turn around and criticize him for doing it? Double standards are a squeak.
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Post by: AGJV44_Rot 1 on February 17, 2003, 09:47:02 PM
I participated in one of Ripsnorts 20+ goon missions once.  But I will tell you nothing was better then going on Hazed 20+ ju88 mission and vulchin in 88's.  Think that was a year ago but it was fun.  AS far as mass goon drops if it is dropping the server I think it should be in some form banned if possible.  Or somehow figure out how to limit the troops showing on the server to the clients.
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Post by: muckmaw on February 17, 2003, 09:57:26 PM
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Originally posted by Aub
Shane can't do anything right in your egotistical-bloated head world, can he?

He's trying to do your bud a favor, and PREVENT him from getting his bellybutton booted out of this game. What do you do? You try and drag into a flame-fest.

Look, maw dweebs, you were the first to start using personal insults against Shane, and then you turn around and criticize him for doing it? Double standards are a squeak.


Aub,

You're wrong.

Plain and simple.
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Post by: icemaw on February 18, 2003, 12:52:16 PM
Victory!
Following two days of concentrated effort following the mass-goon-drop-and-server-reset Bishops have become the first team to reset Trinity. WTG BISHOPS!





  I stand corrected it was the MAW it was allways the MAW and will allways be the MAW. Another mass goon drop porks the server thank to the Marine Air Wing.


Thank you Thank you!
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Post by: muckmaw on February 18, 2003, 01:27:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by icemaw
Victory!
Following two days of concentrated effort following the mass-goon-drop-and-server-reset Bishops have become the first team to reset Trinity. WTG BISHOPS!





  I stand corrected it was the MAW it was allways the MAW and will allways be the MAW. Another mass goon drop porks the server thank to the Marine Air Wing.


Thank you Thank you!



huh?
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Post by: icemaw on February 18, 2003, 01:35:40 PM
Sarcasm Muck sarcasm.
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Post by: Shane on February 18, 2003, 01:41:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by muckmaw
Theres a select few on this board that do nothing but spew nonsensical drivel. Simply ignore them. They won't go away,


like.... MAWs....  do a search on my name an dposts... dare ya, double dog dare ya, and you'll see exactly what i generally do on these boards. pay special attention to what i actually post.

squeakslapping tardMAWS is just a diversion.
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Post by: Shane on February 18, 2003, 01:42:57 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Aub,
You're wrong.
Plain and simple.


get your head out of your bellybutton and read the post above this one.
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: muckmaw on February 18, 2003, 01:52:26 PM
Standard Shane Reply:

Sure Shane, Whatever....
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Shane on February 18, 2003, 02:11:57 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Standard Shane Reply:
Sure Shane, Whatever....


lolololol.

afraid you'd be proven wrong? yet again?
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: muckmaw on February 18, 2003, 02:19:56 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Standard Shane Reply:

Sure Shane, Whatever....
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: SlapShot on February 18, 2003, 02:51:15 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
like.... MAWs....  do a search on my name an dposts... dare ya, double dog dare ya, and you'll see exactly what i generally do on these boards. pay special attention to what i actually post.

squeakslapping tardMAWS is just a diversion.


You mean thread such as this one (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73459&highlight=slobber)
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Shane on February 18, 2003, 03:08:20 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
You mean thread such as this one (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73459&highlight=slobber)


just one?  how about these?

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79104
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78726
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79131
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79183
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78153
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78005
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78262
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77671
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78225
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77791
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77924
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77884
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77833
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77686
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75803
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77012
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77231

want more?  and this is just in the past month or 2, and not even all of them.

now what have *you* done? except be stupid?
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: TRiMmer on February 18, 2003, 03:16:43 PM
maw....mag....whatever, does not matter, goon drop like those only fragments the community.  

trm
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: SlapShot on February 18, 2003, 03:26:30 PM


Well aren't you special !!!



For the most part, everybody helps ... it just those that drop to the level of conversation and insults, such as yours, when confronted, that separates you from the rest of the crowd.

Your debating skills always seem to digress to insults, or name calling, or challenges in the DA, or reference to score, or all of the above.

:rolleyes:
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Sixpence on February 18, 2003, 03:31:12 PM
what's all this useless babble?

*SLAP*
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Shane on February 18, 2003, 03:39:05 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Your debating skills always seem to digress to insults, or name calling, or challenges in the DA, or reference to score, or all of the above.
:rolleyes:


re-read this thread from when it was revived and see who started what.

d'oh.

tardlets, one and all.  i just try and talk at the level confronted with.
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: SlapShot on February 18, 2003, 03:51:10 PM
Maybe its you that needs to re-read from the beginning.

This thread started on 02-16-2003 07:28 PM by Swoop so I don't see where "revival" fits.

I confronted you on your intentions (no name calling, insults, etc on my part) and just one post later from you, starts the behaviour that I have already described. Confrontation always brings out the best in you.
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: AKcurly on February 18, 2003, 04:04:53 PM
This thread is so out of whack I don't even know what it's about. :)

I don't know of a better group of guys in Aces High than the MAWs.  All of them are polite in conversation and will do their best to execute their plans in an efficient manner.

To be sure, the MAWs (like all squadrons) have a few members that enjoy channel 1.  So what?  I have seen few mean spirited remarks from MAWs (which tells you their CO is active on the squad channel.)

A few weeks ago, Hblair poked good humored fun at me because I still enjoy capturing bases.  I suppose this is in contrast to furballing / fighter sweeps / reliving memories of car bombing.

The MAWs and AKs have the same prime objective any time we're in the arena: BASE CAPTURE.

Ice is one of the most even-tempered fellows I know in Aces High.  I can talk sense with Ice anytime.

Ice would never be involved in any action which would deliberately damage game play.  To suggest otherwise is ludicrous and mean-spirited in the foulest sense.

You guys go away and do something productive ... flog your monkey, drain your lizard or walk your dog.

curly
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Swoop on February 18, 2003, 04:24:03 PM
Bloody hell lads.  

Everyone got PMS?

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: muckmaw on February 18, 2003, 04:32:05 PM
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Originally posted by AKcurly

The MAWs and AKs have the same prime objective any time we're in the arena: BASE CAPTURE.

curly


And it's pretty damn funny when both the Aks and the MAW are running an NOE mission....and bump into each other on the way to their respective targets.

Talk about head scratching, mass confusion.

I remember the last time this happened. Neither squad knew whether to drop their ordinance and engage or not. We finally did and it turned out to be one massive furball in the middle of nowhere. I think you guys won that one.

Ice is very even tempered, Curly. I'm the one that curses up a storm when I get knocked out by an AK. Of coursre, I never broadcast it. Chuklz seems to have a big red target on my tail this tour.

Anyway, AKs. We'll see you up.
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Post by: icemaw on February 18, 2003, 04:39:57 PM
Curly you are a class act allways have been allways will be. Same goes for the rest of the AK's. Looking forward to meeting you at the con if your going that is.


 Now if every one else would just let this thread die. We could move on to more important stuff.



 Like trying to take over the world!
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: akak on February 18, 2003, 04:56:04 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
You mean thread such as this one (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73459&highlight=slobber)



Bad example, since everyone starts calling Shane names before he even calls anyone a 'slobberdonkey' towards the end of the thread.  

It seems that certain people have a perverted and unhealthy obssession with Shane, kind of like IH8MAWS obssession towards the MAWs.  Professional help in order?


Ack-Ack
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: qts on February 18, 2003, 05:07:33 PM
You know, I really don't see this as a user problem. How much overhead would it be to put in some bounds checking? To only send messages about the drop if you are within D6?
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Mini D on February 18, 2003, 05:27:19 PM
The problem with drunks is that if you don't send the message out, those not in range at the time of release will not see them.  Remember the invisible troops bug?

As for the MAW... I've never had an issue with them in any of the arenas.  I can't really say the same about shane.

MiniD
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Shane on February 18, 2003, 05:58:09 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Maybe its you that needs to re-read from the beginning.

This thread started on 02-16-2003 07:28 PM by Swoop so I don't see where "revival" fits.

I confronted you on your intentions (no name calling, insults, etc on my part) and just one post later from you, starts the behaviour that I have already described. Confrontation always brings out the best in you.



the original issue was from last novemeber... golfer revived that thread, and this one shortly followed it.

you're not too bright, are you?

you confronted me on my intentions? lol, you outright accused me of trying to get icemaw in trouble

man, whatta  tardMAW.

Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Sixpence on February 18, 2003, 06:48:29 PM
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Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: MWHUN on February 19, 2003, 10:21:08 AM
I have never seen a squad take more daily abuse than the MAWs in recent memory.

It's getting a bit silly and definitely old...:rolleyes:
Title: about little SHANE
Post by: FortyDog on February 19, 2003, 10:50:05 AM
I've been reading these post and wow, no one seems to get it.  These post aren't about MAWs one time mass goon drop, it's about little SHANE and his need to be seen.  We see you SHANE.  We know you're there SHANE.  I personally think SHANE was not given much attention when he was a kid.  I'd like everyone from now on when you see SHANE online please acknowledge his presence.  Just say hello and tell him we love you.......................... .

Now for reality.

I say remove Shane's ability to post on this BB and all will be well.

40DogMAW
M.A.W. Commander
Marine Air Wing (http://www.marineairwingah.homestead.com/enter.html)
(http://www.marineairwingah.homestead.com/files/MAW_Plaque.jpg)
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Midnight on February 19, 2003, 11:25:04 AM
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Originally posted by hitech
Its acctualy not a bug, Troops are exactly the same as other weapons with the exception of 1 thing. They are brodcast to everyone because they can be killed, bombs and rockets are brodcast to only people in the area of the drop.

Now do a little math of say a 20 person troop drop with 500 people on line.

20 * 8 = 160
160 * 500 = 80000

So suddenly the servers trying to blast out 80000 messages all at once. Debating how to aleviate the bottle neck.

HiTech .


And we wonder why this happens? HiTech is the programmer and he calculates with 8, when a C47 actually drops 10 count them 10 troops.

That would calculate out to 100,000 which is 20,000 more messages than Hitech figures. Hmm... You must have misplaced some 1s and 0s in your code HT :D
Title: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2003, 11:32:52 AM
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Originally posted by FortyDog
I've been reading these post and wow, no one seems to get it.  These post aren't about MAWs one time mass goon drop, it's about little SHANE and his need to be seen.  We see you SHANE.  We know you're there SHANE.  I personally think SHANE was not given much attention when he was a kid.  I'd like everyone from now on when you see SHANE online please acknowledge his presence.  Just say hello and tell him we love you.......................... .
Now for reality.
I say remove Shane's ability to post on this BB and all will be well.
40DogMAW
M.A.W. Commander
 


I suggest you get a handle on your members, icemaw and muckmaw in particular. It seems you have very little control over them. tsk, encouraging, even in "jest" things that will affect gameplay for hundreds of others, especially via known bugs.

I also suggest you take a reading comprehension course. that way maybe you can really understand what went on here, as well as perhaps these:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/tos.html

pay particular attention to section I. 11.

and most relevantly:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70959

 < insert adage about history here> :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: muckmaw on February 19, 2003, 11:54:03 AM
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Originally posted by Shane
I suggest you get a handle on your members, icemaw and muckmaw in particular. It seems you have very little control over them. tsk, encouraging, even in "jest" things that will affect gameplay for hundreds of others, especially via known bugs.

 


If 40, the Commander of the Maine Air Wing, told me, or even suggested I never post a word on this board again, I would follow without question. You know nothing about the squad, or it's members, or the control and guidance 40 exerts on us. Anyone who has earned my respect like 40 has, (Revvin, most AKs, the Damned, Grim, Ripsnort) receives my full attention and cooperation when asked.

Now, I only joined this thread when you, Shane, told Slapshot, my squaddie and friend, to "Take his head out of his ass", referred to him as a "Tardwad", 'Swapspit" and used the term "TardMAWS".

Let me tell you how the world works Shane. You could have replied to Slapshots accusation in a mature and non-insulting manner. You chose not too.

Try this kind of behavior in the real world, to real people and see what happens to you. For your own personal safety, I suggest you don't.

If you'd like to carry on a discussion with me or anyone else on this board, and be treated with respect, leave out the insults.  You'll find your position will be much better received.
Title: Re: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2003, 11:59:49 AM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Now, I only joined this thread when you, Shane, told Slapshot, my squaddie and friend, to "Take his head out of his ass", referred to him as a "Tardwad", 'Swapspit" and used the term "TardMAWS".
Let me tell you how the world works Shane. You could have replied to Slapshots accusation in a mature and non-insulting manner. You chose not too.
Try this kind of behavior in the real world, to real people and see what happens to you. For your own personal safety, I suggest you don't.
If you'd like to carry on a discussion with me or anyone else on this board, and be treated with respect, leave out the insults.  You'll find your position will be much better received.


lololol... perhaps if slapshot had kept his asinine accusation to himself, none of this would be occurring?

perhaps you should pass along the very same advice you gave to me to slapshot, hmmmm?

and my, my, my.. what a cult of personality 40dog seems to have if you'd do as you said you would.  people like you, well... need to be watched carefully.

maybe you can take the same class as 40dog and share notes.
Title: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: MrLars on February 19, 2003, 12:10:40 PM
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Originally posted by FortyDog


I say remove Shane's ability to post on this BB and all will be well.

 


Fortunatley, it's HTC's job to ban people here, if the power was given to their subscribers there would be little traffic and very few posters here.
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Post by: SlapShot on February 19, 2003, 12:14:56 PM
"Its acctualy not a bug, Troops are exactly the same as other weapons with the exception of 1 thing. They are brodcast to everyone because they can be killed, bombs and rockets are brodcast to only people in the area of the drop."

If Shane had read Hitech's post and applied some thought, he would have realized that ice's "tounge and cheek" scenarios really could not have porked the server. Bombs, rockets, and torpedos do not result in the same broadcast logic as troops do.

But being the "helpfull" kinda guys he is , he trys to insinuate that ice's remarks are those similar to someone cheating or hacking the game and is a bannable offense.

The history between Shane and the MAW goes way back and lets say that its not a "loving" relationship, so for anyone that believes that Shane would offer help to a MAW is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

To quote AKCury ...

"Ice would never be involved in any action which would deliberately damage game play. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous and mean-spirited in the foulest sense."
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2003, 12:42:14 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
"Its acctualy not a bug, Troops are exactly the same as other weapons with the exception of 1 thing. They are brodcast to everyone because they can be killed, bombs and rockets are brodcast to only people in the area of the drop."
If Shane had read Hitech's post and applied some thought, he would have realized that ice's "tounge and cheek" scenarios really could not have porked the server. Bombs, rockets, and torpedos do not result in the same broadcast logic as troops do.
But being the "helpfull" kinda guys he is , he trys to insinuate that ice's remarks are those similar to someone cheating or hacking the game and is a bannable offense.
The history between Shane and the MAW goes way back and lets say that its not a "loving" relationship, so for anyone that believes that Shane would offer help to a MAW is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
To quote AKCury ...
"Ice would never be involved in any action which would deliberately damage game play. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous and mean-spirited in the foulest sense."


reading is phundamental.

icemaw, "Hmm just thought of a way to use mass goon drops. Hmm when ever some country is about to get a reset we up 100 goons and drop over frndly base server crashes no reset for you. Hmm I like it yup gonna do it tonight. I wonder if that would work at a base under mass attack instead of upping fighters for defense just up goons and leave troops on the runway hmm lots of good ideas to pork everyones fun."

and yeah, i hold no enmity toward MAWs beyond any immediate cluelessness i see them express. what happened yesterday or 2 months ago is exactly that.  however it seems some MAWs have an ongoing crusade when it comes to me pointing out their shortcomings. believe it or not, i *was* trying to show icemaw his post wasn't the brightest thing to be done; did you notice i didn't quote him, giving him plenty of opportunity to edit or delete that post?

yeah, i'm sure plenty of damned said the same thing about DmdBT - didn't make a difference, tho'.

:rolleyes:

i look forward to hearing how your class goes.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: muckmaw on February 19, 2003, 12:53:53 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
and my, my, my.. what a cult of personality 40dog seems to have if you'd do as you said you would.  people like you, well... need to be watched carefully.


It's called "Respect", Shane. Look into it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2003, 12:57:04 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
It's called "Respect", Shane. Look into it.

"If 40, the Commander of the Maine Air Wing, told me, or even suggested I never post a word on this board again, I would follow without question."


it's called "blind obedience" the way you put it.  bbs posting and in-game play, i.e. squad ops, are two totally different things. but if you're ok with that, all the more power to 40dog.
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Post by: SlapShot on February 19, 2003, 01:04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
reading is phundamental.

icemaw, "Hmm just thought of a way to use mass goon drops. Hmm when ever some country is about to get a reset we up 100 goons and drop over frndly base server crashes no reset for you. Hmm I like it yup gonna do it tonight. I wonder if that would work at a base under mass attack instead of upping fighters for defense just up goons and leave troops on the runway hmm lots of good ideas to pork everyones fun."

and yeah, i hold no enmity toward MAWs beyond any immediate cluelessness i see them express. what happened yesterday or 2 months ago is exactly that.  however it seems some MAWs have an ongoing crusade when it comes to me pointing out their shortcomings. believe it or not, i *was* trying to show icemaw his post wasn't the brightest thing to be done; did you notice i didn't quote him, giving him plenty of opportunity to edit or delete that post?

yeah, i'm sure plenty of damned said the same thing about DmdBT - didn't make a difference, tho'.

:rolleyes:

i look forward to hearing how your class goes.


by Shane I love how slobberdonkeys try and justify their lameness. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: muckmaw on February 19, 2003, 01:08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
it's called "blind obedience" the way you put it.  bbs posting and in-game play, i.e. squad ops, are two totally different things. but if you're ok with that, all the more power to 40dog.


They are not really two totally different things in my eyes, although I can see your point of view. In game, on squad nights, we are required to fly with the squad, under command of the highest ranking officer. If he says "Auger, and get in the mission, we do it, without question."

Now on the board, we try to conduct ourselves in a manner that is becoming of a member of the Marine Air Wing. So the BBS member behavior is reflective of the squad in game, and could adversly impact recruiting, or the overall perception of our squad.

So my point is, if 40 came to me and said, "Muck, your out of control. What your doing on the BBS is not becoming of the squad. Please stop", I would do so, as would any other member of the squad.

Do you understand what I meant, now?
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Post by: Biggles on February 19, 2003, 01:35:24 PM
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Originally posted by TAILGUNNR
Hmm whats up with all the MAWS in that pic?


They were embarking on an unauthorized R&R flight to a remote part of their territory, hauling their favorite sheep and cases of beer (not troops), for their annual MAW retreat.
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: muckmaw on February 19, 2003, 01:38:46 PM
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Originally posted by Biggles
They were embarking on an unauthorized R&R flight to a remote part of their territory, hauling their favorite sheep and cases of beer (not troops), for their annual MAW retreat.


This could be the most ridiculous post I've ever read.

Everyone knows we use M3's for the retreat. Its too damn hard to get the sheep up in the C-47.:D
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2003, 01:39:52 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
They are not really two totally different things in my eyes, although I can see your point of view. In game, on squad nights, we are required to fly with the squad, under command of the highest ranking officer. If he says "Auger, and get in the mission, we do it, without question."
Now on the board, we try to conduct ourselves in a manner that is becoming of a member of the Marine Air Wing. So the BBS member behavior is reflective of the squad in game, and could adversly impact recruiting, or the overall perception of our squad.
So my point is, if 40 came to me and said, "Muck, your out of control. What your doing on the BBS is not becoming of the squad. Please stop", I would do so, as would any other member of the squad.
Do you understand what I meant, now?


is this what 40dog told you to say, or did you manage to come up with that on your own after weighty reflection?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: about little SHANE
Post by: muckmaw on February 19, 2003, 01:43:45 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
is this what 40dog told you to say, or did you manage to come up with that on your own after weighty reflection?


No comment from 40. These are my own thoughts and words. I'm sure 40 would comment if he thought it necessary.
Title: D Day goon drops freeze the server.
Post by: BNshill on February 19, 2003, 02:08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
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LMFAO!!!