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Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Manedew on February 16, 2003, 10:07:12 PM

On the Patriot Act II

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0213-09.htm

On "Clean war in Iraq"

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0214-03.htm

Compare to 1940

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0215-02.htm

On Iraq and Israel

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0216-07.htm

On Body Bags

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5966947%255E401,00.html

Like to see what some of you think of this crap

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Manedew on February 17, 2003, 10:08:48 AM

Punt!

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: weazel on February 17, 2003, 10:39:01 AM

The "conservative" wind-up dolls don't consider the consequences of the Patriot Act II as being too severe so long as they are protected against evil-doers like saddam and osama, they are so frightened they would sell their mothers for protection from those evil-doing meanies.

I've already emailed multiple Senators and Representatives about chimpys assault on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

But on the bright side we have less than two years before we elect someone who can begin undoing the damage chimpy and his thugs and goons have created.

Just imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth when the chimp-boy gets thrown out on his ass.  :cool:

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Manedew on February 17, 2003, 11:35:23 AM

Here's another link- from Toronto about Oil:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0216-04.htm

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Barney Fife on February 17, 2003, 11:56:24 AM

You're right Clinton was SUCH an honest guy!

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Wilfrid on February 17, 2003, 12:00:59 PM

Another useful link (http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/)

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Batz on February 17, 2003, 12:32:33 PM

its not that conservatives want a patriot act II is just that look at  communist left wing source mane is using as link.

<<<< not a conservative btw........

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Manedew on February 17, 2003, 01:11:16 PM

You really should look at tyhings before you dismiss them .... or attack others

 Most of tho's articles are from Paper's like the LA Times or The Boston Globe .. you know the "commie newspaper's" :rolleyes:

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: blitz on February 17, 2003, 01:54:01 PM

Make's me scary :(


Regards blitz



America is threathened by Iraq in no way

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Batz on February 17, 2003, 02:34:55 PM

The stories they select to link or put there are themed based to give a one sided slighted view.

Its common knowledge that the patriot act II is bs and is going no where. You didnt see on that site anywhere.

If you are a leftwing  hippie communist stand up say so..... Theres no need to wrap your agenda up and sell it as "unbiased news".

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Manedew on February 17, 2003, 02:44:56 PM

Did I claim it was unbiased?... damn you people twist things to you own ends....

it's a sight that has a bunch of anti-war links ... you gotta do better than that.  I don't go around calling warmongers Rednecks do I?  and anyway I'm cowboy-hat wearing Texan, the best kind of hippie .. ask Willie Nelson :D

What BS like the patriot act was BS? ... that crap still has me thinking about becoming a Canadian.  They are butchering our rights as they want to goto war... not a good combination IMHO

Go post some pro-war links if you want



Rather than post agin i'll just edit....:

you know how hard it would be to look through all though's newpapers to find the articles I wanted on Anti-War ... try it you'd be at it for a few hours ...

so next time maybe i'll spend hours doing what i can do in a few minutes useing a sight like that...
:rolleyes:

comeon do, I look like I'm pressing a progressive agenda.. this about anti-war

stop changing the subject

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Batz on February 17, 2003, 02:50:32 PM

I am not for action against Iraq........ and I'm not a warmongering conservative but you can go to that site and see clearly they have an agenda. You passed that on as "news".

You also punted it up like you wanted some sort feedback..Well I gave it to you.....

Canada will love you........do have have black helicopters there to? You may wanna check 1st.

Title: Few Links FYI
Post by: Ripsnort on February 17, 2003, 02:50:44 PM

Paranoia...will destroy yaaaaaa....


http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/3647992.html

Quote

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- House and Senate negotiators have agreed that a
                 Pentagon project intended to detect terrorists by monitoring e-mail and
                 commercial databases for health, financial and travel information cannot be
                 used against Americans.

                 The conferees also agreed to restrict further research on the program without
                 extensive consultation with Congress.

                 House leaders agreed with Senate fears about the threat to personal privacy
                 posed by the Pentagon program, known as Total Information Awareness
                 (TIA). So they accepted a Senate provision in the omnibus spending bill
                 passed last month, said Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif., who heads the defense
                 appropriations subcommittee.

                 Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., senior Democrat on the subcommittee, said of the
                 program, "Jerry's against it, and I'm against it, so we kept the Senate
                 amendment." Of the Pentagon, he said, "They've got some crazy people over
                 there."

                 The only obstacles to the provision becoming law would be the failure of the
                 conferees to reach agreement on the overall spending bill in which it is
                 included, or a successful veto of the bill by President Bush.

                 Lt. Cmdr. Donald Sewell, a Pentagon spokesman, defended the program,
                 saying, "The Department of Defense still feels that it's a tool that can be used
                 to alert us to terrorist acts before they occur." He added, "It's not a program
                 that snoops into American citizens' privacy."

                 One important factor in the breadth of the opposition is the fact that the
                 project is headed by retired Adm. John Poindexter. Several members of
                 Congress have said he is an unwelcome symbol because he was convicted of
                 lying to Congress when he was President Ronald Reagan's national security
                 adviser. That his conviction was reversed on the grounds that he had been
                 given immunity for the testimony in which he lied did not mitigate
                 congressional opinion, they said.

                 The conferees' decision spells almost complete failure for a last-minute
                 Pentagon effort, begun Friday, to protect TIA by establishing advisory
                 committees to oversee it.

                 TIA would enable a team of intelligence analysts to gather and view
                 information from databases, pursue links between individuals and groups,
                 respond to automatic alerts, and share information, all from their individual
                 computers.

                 It could link such different electronic sources as video feeds from airport
                 surveillance cameras, credit card transactions, airline reservations and records
                 of telephone calls. The data would be filtered through software that would
                 constantly seek suspicious patterns.

                 The program could be employed in support of lawful military operations
                 outside the United States and lawful foreign intelligence operations conducted
                 against non-U.S. citizens.

                 The action was praised by Democrats and Republicans and by outside groups
                 on both the political right and left.