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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Heater on February 17, 2003, 05:06:02 AM
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How many have actually been in a combat situation?
All this is not intended to "Flame" anyone but I am just curious,
How many of you have ever been in a combat situation ?
When and Where?
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I can vouch for Rangerbob and Phantom4 from our squad..Bob was an infantry soldier (see his story below) and Phantom4 was a "Back seater" in a (you guessed it) F4 Phantom, both in 'Nam. Here's Bob's story:
Let me tell you about 5 days of action, while we are operating as a combined unit, back when I was a Lieutenant, along the Laotian border looking for enemy base camps in 1968......
Aside from being the only Lt that lasted more than 2 weeks the entire time I was there, I was a bit like the Lt that took over in the story of the Band of Brothers episode just at the end of Bastogne, where they attack the town of Foy. If you remember, he takes over under fire from a Lt that panics in the field under fire. The new Lt runs across the line of fire in the open to
coordinate units, and then runs back to the other side. He is never hit, and the troops are amazed. I mention this, because the men thought I had some
kind of special luck, and many tried desperately to transfer into my unit.
When overrun I was wounded, but lived and fully recovered while the others died. After having 2 choppers shot out of the sky, mine is also hit, but crash lands in the drop zone where I walk away. That same day, when coming to the aid of another unit just ambushed, a medic was calling for help on top of an open hill. Everyone looked at each other, but no one would go to that obvious open ambush site. Being the leader I went. While kneeling on top of that open hill helping hold the dangling leg of the wounded man I looked over to see the NVA looking right back at me just 50 yards away. I knew I was dead, but they just looked and let us live. As soon as we carried the wounded man back, the entire firefight started again. The men were again amazed at this luck.
Two additional Lt's were shot trying to take this hill, and then the Colonel tells me it's my turn. Taking this hill requires an attack right out in the open. The only change I make is to use Ranger tactics of firing like crazy, and yelling, to make your enemy think they're gonna die. We take the hill without one man wounded. Later that night I move out to ambush what I know is coming back for revenge. We get em all. I still have the souvenirs and their family photos.
The very next day we get surrounded in an old enemy base camp. We all know it's the end when nightfall comes. I pass the word for everyone to use Ranger tactics of never firing at night, just throw grenades. Don't let em see you at anytime. We say our goodbyes and watch night fall. They attack all night long with some bugle they keep blowing. In the morning I check and find not one man even wounded. Two days later, after a long day, I have to do the evening scout for an alternate position. The men want to mutiny,
because my being the only Lt means they always have to do this. I tell em they're right, but being an officer I have to go and will welcome the help from anyone who will join me. Scared stiff I head out into the jungle alone, only to hear my radio operator say "if one zero goes I go", followed by the entire unit. Hours later our position is under heavy artillery attack from
over in Laos. We take numerous wounded, but are not allowed to fire back into Laos. Knowing it will be suicide to stay there, I lead the unit to the alternate position I scouted earlier when they didn't want to go. We sit there all night listening to the bombardment of our old location. Every man knows they would be dead if they hadn't followed me earlier to scout out an alternate site.
A couple of days later I land in a 1 ship landing zone right in the face of the enemy. I report it's hot and that tells command to leave us there. We
make all sorts of noise, fire like hell, throw every grenade we have, and with gunship support the NVA run off. The rest of the unit arrives and we have a terrific fight. The next day I receive word that I will need to be flown out in a chopper to the rear(my mother was very ill, but lived).
Instead of me leading the way as usual the CO tells a new replacement Lt to lead his unit to the pickup site, because I probably have a lot on my mind.
They step on a mine and the Lt is killed. The men know I would have been leading them down that same trail, except for the change.
Although I knew it wasn't true, they all consider me as having some special luck as their Lieutenant. The others come and go within 2 weeks. I not only lived, but they lived too. I knew it was just basic luck that would run out soon, and I was really scared almost all of the time, but to them I had a special touch that kept them alive. Believing in that, they followed me anywhere, but I was very careful not to exploit that advantage. I never ever risked a man without having taken all the precautions I could, and I always walked up front to be with them and be their leader.
As a side note, two weeks after I left the unit 6 men were killed in one night by firing a machine gun. The men later told me that it would never
have happened, because when I was there I always insisted "fight like Rangers, don't ever fire a weapon in the jungle at night".
Anytime I think I'm having a "bad day"...I just read Bobs email. {S} Bob!
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Amazing story!
Bob and thanks Rip for sharing that one.
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Heater you would be hard pressed to find any american who reached the rank of junior nco or higher in active duty combat arms unit during the last 15 years who didn't serve in combat .
You have to consider that america has been at war more or less for sixty years .
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Beirut: 82,83,85,86......84 I had to catch my breath.
Grenada: 83
Gulf:90-91
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Originally posted by Monk
Beirut: 82,83,85,86......84 I had to catch my breath.
Grenada: 83
Gulf:90-91
{S} Monk
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I have never served in the armed forces (was too tall for airforce training so passed on my offer to go to Royal Miltary College). However I have been unlucky enough to have see some interesting times.
I was in South Africa during the 1988 mine strike. My mine did not get hit with a strike but when I was there I was visiting another mine that did go on strike. We had to drive through the crowd to get out and it was pretty scary. The mine had privite security (ex Rhodesian army with some former Selous Scouts) who were nearby in a helicopter fully armed if things got violent. I think the manoevers they held the previous couple of weeks put a damper on any thoughts of violence the strikers had. I met them in the mine club a few days later and bought them a round. Nice guys. Really bad ass. Most had spent the previous decade jungle fighting pretty much non stop. Then had to leave Rhodesia when it fell around 1980 and had gone straight into the South African Army. Then they were retired from that and were working for the mines.
If you ever want to read some interesting stories research the Selous Scouts.
There was some deadly violence at many other mines though.
I was also unlucky enough to land in Jakarta a couple of days before President Suharto resigned in 99 I believe (not sure on the year). I had the pleasure of watching most of Glodok burn down (the chinese merchant area) from my hotel room. I was caught in a taxi by protestors but they looked in and saw I was a white guy and cleared the road so we could get by. I had tried to get to the airport to leave but gave up and stayed for the whole two weeks that the crisis took to play out. Most of Jakarta was trashed when it was all over. The army deployed the next day and luckily were using the road below my Hotel for a security area. Therefore I was quite safe.
Hundreds died in fires and riots. It was very scary.
I also was in Nigeria during some unrest in 1993. It was a scary time as well although the Nigerian Army kept things under control. At one point the Army and the Police were fighting each other. It seems an Army officer had driven though and Police check point and was killed. The Army went out the next day hunting Police and all the check points disappeared. That was the one good result of that incident. For the first time in years you could drive around Nigeria without getting hasseled constantly by police at their road blocks.
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Jesus H, Monk...tell us some stories! please huh huh please?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
{S} Monk
Thank you, Sir.
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define 'combat situation'.
lazs
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does exchanging fire with drug runners count?
(US Coast Guard)
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does exchanging fire with fellow drug dealers count?
lazs
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Combat defined the thread...otherwise I would have related my "had a gun pulled on me 4 times, and fired at me 2 times".
You would *think* I'd be anti-gun after that many times. :D
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hehe lasz
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1970-71, Mekong. 9th Inf.
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My Company transferred me to Central Mexico for 3 yrs (I loved it). One day me and another American took some time off work to run errands. Well we went to the bank and upon opening the door to the bank- we saw three banditos holding auto-matic weapons. They had everyone lined up against the wall...it was horrifying. We slammed the door shut and took off running. Well we got away but 2 hostages were killed later in a firefight with police….sad.
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Hey GScholz,
Were you part of the group that sold out the Bosnians to the Serbs? You guys were partying while th Bosnians were being Butchered. Good job.....
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Originally posted by Hangtime
1970-71, Mekong. 9th Inf.
One question?
Do you ever get an itching to go back?
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Do my wife and mother in law count? :D
But seriously, I haven't, they have.
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Gulf War One ... Anti-Tank Infantryman, E co 3/15 Infantry BN, 24th Inf Div
Lonz
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3 TOD's Nam '66 to '72.
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Southern Colombia, 1992 and 1993. With the Air Force (if you can believe that). Can't really say much, but I will say that all the talk in the world doesn't mean anything once the bullets start flying. You really see who you do and don't want in your bunker/foxhole right away.
Never killed anyone though... didn't even fire at anyone. It was still perhaps one of the greatest moments of clarity I've ever had.
MiniD
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GScholz,
Just answer the question and keep the emotion out off it....were you guys sloppy drunk while the Bosnians were being chopped up? Just a question?
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Originally posted by MrLars
3 TOD's Nam '66 to '72.
How about you MrLars.
Do you ever get an icthin to go back?
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Originally posted by 28sweep
GScholz,
Just answer the question and keep the emotion out off it....were you guys sloppy drunk while the Bosnians were being chopped up? Just a question?
Ahhh... the things you courageously get to say behind the warm glow of a monitor...
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Persian Gulf... a few times during the Iran/Iraq war between 1984 and 1988.
Nobody shooting at us (USS Leahy CG-16) as we had the biggest stick (SM-2ER) in the pond at the time.
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You don't have a bloody clue, 28sweep. The more I see of your posts outside the 30 character limits of a MA channel 1 message bar, the more I believe they should halve the size of said message bar.
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GScholz,
Please stop calling me names. I'm just trying to remember who sold out the Bosnians...the Dutch or Norwegians?? Also, please don’t threaten me. I live in Detroit and your from Norway ..I got tougher things in my stool than you…relax I like ABBA.;)
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Originally posted by Monk
How about you MrLars.
Do you ever get an icthin to go back?
Last year a few of my mates invited me to go back on a tour...the timing wasn't right but I'll try for this September when another group is planning their trip.
Thinking of going back brings out a lot of emotions and I am certan that going back w/o a group of my contemporaries wouldn't be good for me emotionaly. Ya gotta have a knowing shoulder to cry on when reliving the absolut worst times in your life.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Persian Gulf... a few times during the Iran/Iraq war between 1984 and 1988.
Nobody shooting at us (USS Leahy CG-16) as we had the biggest stick (SM-2ER) in the pond at the time.
What was the score while you were there?
Us and the EW's on the AWACS would keep score of tankers hits. If I remember right, the Iraqis hit 27 or so tankers and the Iranians hit 12 or 15. Exocets make an ugly fire on a full tanker.
...and definately uncool to be 10nm from a tanker and hearing that seeker during popup.
'Course in '86 the PG was not a "war zone".
F.
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Originally posted by 28sweep
GScholz,
Please stop calling me names. I'm just trying to remember who sold out the Bosnians...the Dutch or Norwegians?? Also, please don’t threaten me. I live in Detroit and your from Norway ..I got tougher things in my stool than you…relax I like ABBA.;)
Its times like these we need some help from Darwin...
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Originally posted by Monk
One question?
Do you ever get an itching to go back?
Hiya Monk.
Nope. But I've had some moments when the rage came back. That lil hot point deep inside that slows down time, makes your senses all super acute and you stand a hair's beadth away from berserk.
It's one reason I don't drink.
I miss my friends, I don't miss that place.
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GScholz,
Your still threatening me? I’m from the Detroit Ghetto-we eat Europeans for Scooby Snaks. Bring your Fondu eating prettythang to D-Town bro…Ill beat you like a Levy Mule.
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Keep digging that hole 28tard...
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Originally posted by Furious
What was the score while you were there?
Us and the EW's on the AWACS would keep score of tankers hits. If I remember right, the Iraqis hit 27 or so tankers and the Iranians hit 12 or 15. Exocets make an ugly fire on a full tanker.
...and definately uncool to be 10nm from a tanker and hearing that seeker during popup.
'Course in '86 the PG was not a "war zone".
F.
No idea at the time... keeping score wasn't high on our priority list. :)
Watched a ship sink and listened to panicked calls over bridge to bridge while a tanker was hit by Iraqi fighters, though.
Yeah... too funny on the war zone thing... On my 3rd trip to the Gulf, we all got expeditionary medals and it was probably quieter then than the two previous.
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Desert Storm
Helicopter crewchief/gunner
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I think we did this before.
easymo, nother of the vets of the southeastern asian wargames, (we took second place) who can not reply to this thread at this time.
again bro.
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Desert Storm- Munitions loader for the 4404 Provisional Bomb Wing. My unit dropped millions of pounds of bombs on Iraqi targets. Then, DESERT THIS, DESERT THAT, NORTHEN WATCH, SOUTHERN WATCH, PROVIDE COMFORT. Lookslike there is more to come in the near future, I won't be on the tip of the spear, so to speak.
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Raubvogel, I have read much about helicopter gunners in Vietnam. It is a fascinating subject to me. If you don't mind, could you tell what some of your duties were, and perhaps tell what a routine mission was like for you in the Gulf?
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Honestly it wouldn't be right to compare my experiences to the crewmen in Vietnam. Mine lasted 3 days, we had overwhelming superiority. Saw more Iraqis trying to surrender than I did Iraqis trying to fight. Only exchanged a few rounds, went "home" to a tent every night. I flew on UH-1Hs in an assault helicopter battalion. Don't let the name fool you, we didn't assault toejam. Blackhawks got most of the press and pictures, but I think there were actually more Hueys still flying over there. Great aircraft, I miss flying on it.
I respect the crap those guys went through in SE Asia, their stories deserve to be heard far more than mine.
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I could give you some stories from SE Asia from my wife, they're kind of gruesome though. I also picked up some from Hang Ngor - the guy from The Killing Fields movie - he came over here twice before he died.
The amazing thing is for someone who abhors weapons, war movies, or any violence, she is absolutely pro-kicking-Saddams butt. Guess she feels for the Iraqi's who suffer at his hands.
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GSoltz you and I have butted heads in the past but this swoop clown is way out of line.
We are on your side dude.
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Combat as in.....
I have been in two shooting incident where shots were exchanged by me and another person. One I missed (others diddnt) and one I did not miss.
I was also a Paramedic in Oakland California from 1990-1999, we called ouselves "urban combat medics"
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Originally posted by rc51
GSoltz you and I have butted heads in the past but this swoop clown is way out of line.
We are on your side dude.
um.... Swoop and 28Sweep are not the same person, AFAIK.
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Originally posted by GScholz
... or a plane ticket to Detroit. Too bad one is unlikely and the other one is expensive.
If the little bastard had the fortitude to give an actual address, i'd finance your airfare, scholz. Its little salamanders like him that make me favor the draft, not as though it is an issue for myself for if it was instituted, i'd do all i could to finish my education (Though, if I am picked, I am picked and I go. Hopefully having a logbook may get me a flying job) and join the navy in hopes of a fighter/attack squadron flight slot. I'd love for this little [htc would remove this combination of words with haste.] to not have the option for a discharge on any grounds just to watch him squirm. I wouldn't wish 28Sweep into any mans foxhole, but his own.
Get an address, i'll get it checked out, i'll provide airfare. If anyone else would drop some change into this coffee can it too is welcome. :mad:
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Nam 67-71............ tanker
cars
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Combat defined the thread...otherwise I would have related my "had a gun pulled on me 4 times, and fired at me 2 times".
You would *think* I'd be anti-gun after that many times. :D
Why did your wife do that anyway Rip? :D
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Combat situation, no.
Hand-to-hand with a 1000 lbs mad bull with big horns though.:D
He shredded my clothes and threw me around like a paperdoll. Had to claw one of his eyes out to ensure my escape.
3 broken ribs that day.
Bloody awful.
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Originally posted by cars
Nam 67-71............ tanker
sir
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Originally posted by rc51
GSoltz you and I have butted heads in the past but this swoop clown is way out of line.
We are on your side dude.
Point of order: DO NOT confuse this dopey little avacado 28Sweep with me.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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I dunno, he got the "Swoop Clown" part right :D
Ping, ex-girlfriends tend to not want to let go of the reigns on a well-hung horse.
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ping... I have seen two women with guns pointed in my general direction and it was the scariest... You have no idea what they will do. One woman shot a guy that was next to me the other was pointing a cocked 44 buldog at my brother... the bulldog was a gun I had worked over for him and had about a 2 lb trigger pull.. her eyes were glazed over and she was frothing.
Glad the drug dealers didn't have helicopters and artilery and stuff tho.
lazs
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Desert Shield/Storm
Air Traffic Controller
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Nha Be, S. Viet Nam, Jan. 1971-Jan.1972.
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I stand corrected LOl sorry swoop i meant to say swoop 28.
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Does an urban combat with the riot police, as a participant of a demonstrating crowd, count? :D
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1996-1996, later
Lived with girlfriend
1999-1999 later
Another girlfriend, this one preferring kicks to fists
2003-?
Fighting the new Imperial MegaAttack Squad from Delirious 5.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Nha Be, S. Viet Nam, Jan. 1971-Jan.1972.
Pencil pusher?
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Afghanistan, mid-80s.
miko
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1980-1995 Uniformed patrol division, streets of home town USA.
That count?
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Originally posted by miko2d
Afghanistan, mid-80s.
miko
What did you do?
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Originally posted by rc51
I stand corrected LOl sorry swoop i meant to say swoop 28.
NO. It's 28Sweep, there are no O's involved here.
And besides, I'm 29.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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If I'd been confused with that cock-shuffler, I'd be a little PO'd GScholz. ;)
Ripsnort - are you a vet of anything? No? Then why do you judge another's service?
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Well he really crossed a line there man.
I mean you just dont say those kinda things to someone .
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Then why do you judge another's service?
What does thy speak of? I can only imagine, young and easily persuaded one.
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Senility setting in, old one? You asked whether Airhead was a 'pencil pusher'. Not very respectful.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Senility setting in, old one? You asked whether Airhead was a 'pencil pusher'. Not very respectful.
Ah, inside joke...you should stick to attacking those subjects that you have research on.
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Monk: What did you do?
What could be called an alpine recon detachment - composed of grunts with civilian mountain-climbing experience from different units.
We mostly did intercept of caravans coming from Pakistan, counter-ambush on roads, scouting, spotting, countersniping, securing LZs, hunting for AAs, screening for larger operations. Basically, chasing mountain guerillas on their home grounds.
miko
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Yeah, I'm always doing research on people who post on a bulletin board.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Yeah, I'm always doing research on people who post on a bulletin board.
You too?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Insomnia, DMF, insomnia. Besides, I can't afford the repayments on my black helicopter and my CIA trained Mercs have formed a union and are demanding paternity rights.
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number of people doing research on the BBS posters..
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no wait
3
do I count?
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We ought to pool our resources. So far I've discovered some really interesting intel:
1) Cabby probably voted for Bush in the last election
2) Grunherz probably never had a poster of Che Guevara on his wall at any time
How about you guys?
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Absolutely new thread material.
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Make a typo, you guys carry it a mile hehe! Editted above post, young, impressionable one.
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cgn 38 USS Virginia 90-91
got a real kick out of sandman braggin on sm2 lol
very best of what 1959 tech your killin me wont even seek if target when not iluminated.
the 50 cals made me feel more secure. as in not at all.
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I think everyone knows how feel about vets. I've mentioned that before. Just wanted to say thank you to all of the vets that have served.
:rolleyes:
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I thought this post was going to be full of cool and interesting and offbeat stories.
Boreing.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Pencil pusher?
Ripsnort, as much as i like you in person, insulting of those who served, just because their political opinion isn't same as yours, is as low as it gets.
I hope this is a case of a missed smiley, that's all.
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fd ski and Dowding, thanks for the support but Rip meant no insult, nor was one taken. As a matter of fact Nha Be was a large UN base complete with forces from Australia, Korea, Philippines and just about every other group who played there. I was attatched to Mobile Riverine Warfare Forces and after Nixon decided in 1971 to honor his campaign promises of the 1968 election so he might be reelected again in 1972 my function was as an instructor to PBR and Mike Boat crews manned by VN crews in how to handle damage control (re: firefighting.) Not exactly pushing a pencil, but a damn sight less of what Easymo, Hangtime, Mr. Lars or the other grunts who've posted here had to do. I had three hots and a cot, which is more than they had.
Really, my biggest danger was from drunk Aussies in the bars in town confusing me with a skinny hooker, which is partly why I took my R and R in Sydney. :D
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SFG(A) 83-87
Desert Storm
Provide Comfort
and out for being Disabled in PC
28sweep is a moron who would'nt have lasted a day in my squad, he sounds allmost exactly like the bonehead that I put in jail for abandoing his gaurdpost and hiding in the reffer truck while his partner fried in the sun.
Of note Provide comfort was the first time I was ever Requiered/allowed to wear sunglasses in formation
Gunns
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Originally posted by GScholz
Miko, you were Spetsnaz?
Miko: "No, I was a mountain climber attached to the Soviet Army as a caloric intake instructor".
Is that an acceptable answer Miko? :)
One of my favorite, favorite stories from the 'cold war'. Soviet defector type flees into Turkey. Placed in some super secure hidden place for debriefing. Middle of summer in Turkey. Guy is living in some teeny apartment in the middle of an urban sprawl and the Turkish security guys (who are absolutely not slouches) control the adjacent 2 blocks in all directions.
Morning comes, guy sipping tea, ZAP! Shot in the head. Impossible. No one could have gotten into position to make such a shot.
2 or 3 days later, small blurb in Euro news:
"Soviet Olympic Biatholon athelete detained while exiting Turkey. Was training for next winter Olympics".
Training for the winter Olympics, in Turkey, in the summer. :)
They let the guy go. No choice really. Just your average Soviet Olympic Athelete. :)
(FYI: No small # of Soviet Olympic/International atheletes were Soviet special forces personnel)
Mike/wulfie
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I remember reading about those guys when I was in the military. I dont know what they use to scare the grunts with in the US army, but in the Swedish army we were told Spetznaz stories.
I have nothing but respect (and a healthy dose of fear) for those guys.
My favourite one is the one about the Soviet diplomats kidnapped in Beirut sometime during the 80s, and what happened with the terrorists who kidnapped them. But I have heard so many versions of that one, I cant really say what is legend and what is fact any more. If anyone "knows" what really happened it would be really interesting to know.
Miko
*mental note: Never ever say anything silly to Miko again*
;)
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does the O'club count in Combat experience ?
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GScholz I think there is a language barrier here.
I wasn't 'poking fun' at your question at all - just in case that's what you were thinking.
I was making a joke about the 'never verify anything' principle. I.e. if he was in a special forces unit, he'd come up with another explanation - no matter how ridiculous it may sound.
It was kind of an 'inside joke', and had nothing to do with you asking the question, etc.
In other words, no offense intended. :)
Mike/wulfie
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I read in "Dirty Little Secrets of World War II" that some guys were only slightly nervous during combat, perhaps complaining of a knot in the stomach or fast heart rate, while other guys were flat out terrified. I think the biggest factor determining a persons performance in combat is genetics. Some people get scared, others dont. I'm not trying to downplay anything, just giving a bit of trivia.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
I read in "Dirty Little Secrets of World War II" that some guys were only slightly nervous during combat, perhaps complaining of a knot in the stomach or fast heart rate, while other guys were flat out terrified. I think the biggest factor determining a persons performance in combat is genetics. Some people get scared, others dont. I'm not trying to downplay anything, just giving a bit of trivia.
Selection and training play a huge role.
Your average U.S. infantryman, while often brave, was relatively poorly trained in WW2 when compared to British and German infantrymen. A major cause for this was Britain and Germany having 'full time professional' armies by tradition where the U.S. had a small professional core that was intended to form the backbone of a large army that was 'filled out' with draftees.
Mike/wulfie
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Desert Shield/Storm
UH60 Crew Cheif (read mechanic)
also on AH64, OH6, and UH1. (any helicopter needing help basically)
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GScholz: Miko, you were Spetsnaz?
Not Spetsnaz. We were neither as rigorously selected nor specially trained. We were healthier than your average soviet grunt but nowhere as tough as the athletes in fighting sports favored by SpecOps.
...he just "might" be in an ad-hog regular army outfit
Right, "ad-hock" is the right word - just a bunch of guys thrown together from various services and given a hasty infantry refresher. Being a tanker, I've only shot an AK at a range about 3 times in my first year of service.
We did not sneak into the midst of an enemy camp and cut throats but rather shot it out ambush/skirmish style or sat tight and spotted.
miko
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?? :)
Don't worry. "ad hock" is a perfectly civil non-offensive expression. It means "Formed for or concerned with one specific purpose" or better yet "Improvised and often impromptu".
In most cases it does denote an amateurish or sloppy effort and it is about a right description of the state of affairs in soviet army or soviet society in general.
But I did not feel in any way personally responcible for that sorry state of decaying socialism and would not be offended if anyone pointed out any drawbacks, however personal my involvement.
In fact, GScholz, I fail to understand why is everybody so worked up about the stupid 28sweep's remarks, however offencive it was ment to be.
The high-level screwup that happened there on a dutch detachment's watch was a disgrace, to say the least, but how does that reflect on the virtues of a dutch grunt with a rifle, let alone a norwegian one? The sheer volume of rebuttals is more attention that such people deserve. Just use the ignore button next time.
miko
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Heh... I jumped in south of the border to help ecourage a certain Central American nation to STFU. Other than that I didnt do sh(* or see sh*&.
I did save the west from alot of Korean Beer though.
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Originally posted by batdog
Heh
I did save the west from alot of Korean Beer though.
Ah Yess,
I too have saved the world from countless bottles of Parkbrau Pils, Pirmanetor, "Real" Budwies bier and even the Bitburger Brau.
It was a great loss when I rotated home and had to contend with Amerikanshier Shiess Bier.
I Home brew now.......
Gunns
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Originally posted by batdog
Heh... I jumped in south of the border to help ecourage a certain Central American nation to STFU. Other than that I didnt do sh(* or see sh*&.
I did save the west from alot of Korean Beer though.
Yeah you didn't get laid though, ain't opsec a squeak :)
Did you get to jump with them and slide on your bellybutton like a fluff'n dog with worms out the door ?
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Northern Ireland late 70's early 80's, two tours.
wipass
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
cgn 38 USS Virginia 90-91
got a real kick out of sandman braggin on sm2 lol
very best of what 1959 tech your killin me wont even seek if target when not iluminated.
the 50 cals made me feel more secure. as in not at all.
At the time, there wasn't anything better, AFAIK. :)
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Cars, I read that being a tank crewman was the most hazardous MOS in Vietnam. I believe it was something like 37% casualtie rate. Can you comment on this? What type of weapons did the VC/NVA possess that could disable a tank?
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davidpt40,
Yeah, tanks are a big high priority tgt. I think its much safer than walking around in the bush tho. We ran mostly convoy escort so for us it was anti-tank mines and b-40's. Some 75mm recoiless around too but never saw one of those. It was dangerous running around unbuttoned but to hot not to so saw some small arms and shrapnel wounds that never shoulda happened. Not as bad as walking tho.
cars
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Originally posted by Suave
Yeah you didn't get laid though, ain't opsec a squeak :)
Did you get to jump with them and slide on your bellybutton like a fluff'n dog with worms out the door ?
Yea, didnt get laid. Korea was a different story though :)
Jumped? (LOL) Well..I uselly fell out the door cause all the toejam they loaded on me was heavier than i was.