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Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 17, 2003, 06:23:32 AM
That the supposedly largest protests ever held in Europe were protesting against America..

That really is the whole point of this isnt it europeans?
Title: Re: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: -dead- on February 17, 2003, 06:28:02 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
That the supposedly largest protests ever held in Europe were protesting against America..
That really is the whole point of this isnt it europeans?
No, Grunherz, all those Europeans are doing it just to annoy you personally. :D I salute them for their efforts.
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: straffo on February 17, 2003, 06:29:16 AM
As the conflict is between some Euro and USA we cannot expect anything else :)

In short I would have been very surprised to see some reaction from any African country :p
Title: Re: Re: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: straffo on February 17, 2003, 06:30:17 AM
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Originally posted by -dead-
No, Grunherz, all those Europeans are doing it just to annoy you personally. :D I salute them for their efforts.


Sure ,I love annoying GRUN ;)
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: Dowding on February 17, 2003, 06:55:27 AM
Last time I heard, the British government was on this rollercoaster - didn't stop a million people marching through London.

Perhaps you could take your 'Europe is against my new country' line elsewhere.
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 17, 2003, 06:55:28 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
As the conflict is between some Euro and USA we cannot expect anything else :)
 


Yea...
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: bounder on February 17, 2003, 08:23:56 AM
These were not protests against America. Plenty of Americans on the London march made that clear, they and we were marching in opposition to the British and US foreign policy on Iraq.

It's possible (if you can think in terms that aren't merely black and white that is) to disagree with US foreign policy and yet still have a great deal of respect and admiration for the USA. The US administration is not synonymous with The United States of America, thank heavens. Our countries (UK and US) have much to commend them, but now and again, we get leaders whose standards and behaviour fall below a critical threshold.

I marched in protest at my Government's willingness to commit our forces 'in defence of the realm' to a conflict that I believe will herald the start of many crises, rather than putting an end to an existing one.

And there's no 'supposedly' about it. Even the metropolitan police put the London figures at between 750,000 and 1,000,000 on the march alone between 11:50 and 5pm. the march went on until after 7pm and many, many people went straight for hyde park without marching for the rally. It was certainly the largest single gathering of people in the history of the British Isles (c:a 2000 years of it).
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 17, 2003, 08:29:20 AM
Well put Bounder, except that anyone who dares to disagree with Americans is either Commie, US-hater or a democrat.

Thank goodness all of 'em aren't like the few loud ones on this board.
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: hawk220 on February 17, 2003, 08:45:47 AM
Perhaps you could take your 'Europe is against my new country' line elsewhere.


what does that mean? 'new country'?
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: AKIron on February 17, 2003, 08:51:29 AM
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Originally posted by bounder
The US administration is not synonymous with The United States of America, thank heavens. Our countries (UK and US) have much to commend them, but now and again, we get leaders whose standards and behaviour fall below a critical threshold.


Your right. However, in this case, the US is largely behind our president.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr030207.asp
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: Dowding on February 17, 2003, 08:59:49 AM
Grunherz wasn't always a US citizen, although he'd have you believe he was a founding father.
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 17, 2003, 09:09:37 AM
Thats crap Dowding. Why are you attacking me for being an immigrant -if anything that gives me much better appreciation of the USA.  But I guess thats a bit to incovenient for you, knowing somebody actually thinks the USA is a dam good country.
Title: Is it really any surprise at all..
Post by: Dowding on February 17, 2003, 09:21:03 AM
I'm not attacking you for being an immigrant. I dislike your hair-trigger knee-jerk reaction to the slightest criticism regarding US foreign policy when it comes to the question of war. Or, in fact any issue, going on past experience. You constantly turn the discussion into a 'You Euros...' mud slinging match, in which you are apt to pull out your desperately unfunny 'DETH TO AMREEKA' roadkill at any opportunity.

I know a lot of people who think the US is a fine country. I am one of them. I know fewer who think the sun shines out of Bush's arse, however.