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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Fariz on October 06, 2001, 05:23:00 PM
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At the moment from all perk planes this one is the most overprised. I am not a fan of hogs, so not frustrated or something, but rather really currious about its price. After trying it offline and flying it in MA I can not see the reason of making it so expensive. I can even barely see the reason why it is perked at all.
Interesting to hear oppinions.
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flies/lands off a carrier, faster, better E retention. You'd have to fly a dhog alot and the step into one of these to feel the difference.
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the thing is fast.............
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Great climb too!
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..and nice guns too...
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...and it holds E like nothing (except N1K2 of course) I've seen before, pulled up from a 180Mph climb, made a loop, got behind a TBM and wasted him from 400 yards, BOOOOM!
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It is sufficient.
Faster than a P-51, one of best climbing US planes currently, good E retention, good firepower, superb high speed handling, superb roll rates, carrier plane, very good ordanace load... whew.. it is almost like a 'perfect' plane. Only problem is its range is a bit limited.
Compared with Tempest: at alt, it is faster than a Tempest, and I believe it is one of the fastest planes even under its optimum operations altitude. High speed handling way way better than a Tempest, rolls better than a Tempy and climbs better than a Tempy.
Though overall fire power is weaker, ammo load is way higher than a Tempy, carries much more ordanance.
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well worth 60 perks then ...........
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Well, maybe they ought just get rid of perk points all together, and find a different way to limit the uber planes. I've been flying a couple months in AH, and I don't think I'll ever get an F4U-4!
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Solomo,
Strafe trains and trucks.
I just killed two trains and an La-7 in the Mosquito and landed 18 perk points.
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if you been flying for 2 months and dont have 60 perks something wrong.
get out of the niki and into a 205/g2 or any other plane with a eny value of 30+.
also hunt planes like nikis spits f4 etc you get perks quick.
also do some jabo...........
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I do fly the F4U-1D a lot. On initial observations, the F4U-4 is overpriced.
Solomo,
Don’t worry about the perks. The more time online and experience the perk points will start to come. Fly what you want and how you want, just have fun doing it ;).
Oh, and Wotan, excellent job of criticism :rolleyes:
Zippatuh
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beeing a newbie here is going to be hard, they come in and cant fly any good planes while we that have been here for years ?? can fly 262`s and all other stuff hmm. that must be frustrating as this game is diffucult enough for a newbie or am i wrong?
i think all this weird perk things is going way to high nothing higher than 50 perkis should be here.
airguard
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Think of it this way...
If you are such a bad pilot that you can't shoot down anything to get perk points, maybe you just aren't a good fighter pilot.
Therefore, you should train. Read a manual and combat tactics book to get a clue of what to do in your A/C.
How many WWII pilots just jumped into a cockpit and started fighting without any training? Maybe a lot, but how many of them shot down anything, and how many of them lived? Probably not that many.
So what am I saying?
Don't whine, practice. Don't say it's unfair, learn to fight. Don't say it should all be free planes with no need to earn anything, become a better pilot.
The best planes in short supply were usually given to those who could best utilize them. Not one day flight school dweebs that have no clue.
Wing up, Get kills, Be happy!
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All...Not everyone has a bank of perks. I have never had more than 400. at the moment, I have only 340. I have been collecting and spending since the inception of the perk program.
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Oh, and Wotan, excellent job of criticism
wtf are talking about?
He said hes been here 2 months and haven't gotten 60 perks?
Somethings wrong here I cant check his score because his bbs name isn't his ah nik. The only way you can get kills and not get 60 perks is fly a plane with a lo eny value and doing no jabo.
If you have trouble following that logic thats on you. But dont misrepresnt what I said. What criticism are you talking about?
If he wants to improve his perks there are simply things you can do. I told him so.
I can tell you I have over 3200 fighter perks and heres how. Hunt nikis.
(last tour)
Wotan has 48 kills and has been killed 17 times against the N1K2.
perks are not relative to how much you fly or how long you been flying. They can be gained quickly flying the right plane and killing the right plane.
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Originally posted by Wotan:
(last tour)
Wotan has 48 kills and has been killed 17 times against the N1K2.
perks are not relative to how much you fly or how long you been flying. They can be gained quickly flying the right plane and killing the right plane.
Totally correct ther Wot.
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Hmm F4U-4 as a perk? Why not at leaste there are not suicidal kamikaze pilots flying it :) Actually when I encountered F4U-4 so far then it was always someone who actually knew something about ACM... Like yesterday when I was B-26 (hey dont flame me I just like the plane) and I took off A48 to do some A1 porking. Over the sea I noticed knit fleet steaming North towards A48 first I wanted to keel it but then out of nowhere (from inoccent looking puffy cloud) just fell off single F4U-4 and started shadowing me... Holding away from my guns and just slowly trying how will I react... I totally forgot about the fleet so I kept flying in the direction of A1 and the F4U-4 started to bounce me... Then I saw there is someone who knows how to fight buffs at least a bit (normally people just climb up on my dead 6 they recieve warm welcome from my tail and top guns and in flames down they go (and then they log to BBS and post messages like make buffs easyer to kill etc.)). So he kept flying around me giving me snap bursts from various angles and me giving him the same treatment... Then I managed to rip his wingtip and he disengaged... He prolly landed coz I recieved no kill and who ever he was Im giving him big because I had so much fun... Then a P-47 climbed up behind me on my dead 6 and was quickly diuspatched down to the gropund where she belonged to... After that I droped my load on A1 and was killed during last run while aiming bombs by an 190 because noone gave me a freakin' 6 call :( and there were many friendly planes around.... And what happened to the fleet? I killed it the very next sortie when I unloaded 12x 250lbs from my B26 on its deck from 11k :D IMHO trees and perkplanes do act as good dweeb-regulator : :cool:
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Originally posted by Wotan:
if you been flying for 2 months and dont have 60 perks something wrong.
get out of the niki and into a 205/g2 or any other plane with a eny value of 30+.
also hunt planes like nikis spits f4 etc you get perks quick.
also do some jabo...........
Since I obviously can’t see the expression on your face I can only interpret your words. What I am seeing is an experienced flyer/player telling someone who may not be that experienced in either bashing them because of it. .From reading Solomo’s post, I’m leaning to the not so experienced side. Maybe I read the both of them wrong
When I started it took me a long period of time to attain anything that could be considered skill. The addictions to the game made me want to play more then learn. I imagine this person may be approaching the game the same way.
There is nothing wrong with flying AH for 2 months and not having 60 perk points.
Stay in the N1K as long as you want, there is nothing wrong with that either. If indeed this person is in an N1K. Maybe, they’re in something difficult and getting stomped in it.
Hunt any aircraft that is carrying a red icon.
Zippatuh
[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: Zippatuh ]
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so your pressumption is hes "unskilled" and unable to get any kills is not "Criticism"
and my 1st thought was that hes getting kills but flies the wrong plane with a lo eny value is.. :rolleyes:
Are you a liberal democrat by chance ...... :eek:
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The F4U-4 is too expensive, it may be the least used fighter next month.
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I wont fly it thats for sure... Its big its ugly it has terible looking W shaped wings and the icon tells others that you have te F4U-4... Why the icon wont tell that you are flying C-Hog? And most of all its not RAF :) I will keep flying Tempest instead...
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after i wasted 3 -4s worth with a Me262 i'm also thinking it's too expensive cuz i only have 5 left now ...
Make it cheaper PLUEEEEezzzzzzzz :)
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Originally posted by Wotan:
Are you a liberal democrat by chance ...... :eek:
Easy Wotan, easy.
The F4U-4 is, IMO, overpriced, and directly related to Pyro's paranoia after the -4 debut in Warbirds. My 2 cents. (That and there are too many out there that fear that MAG-33 flying these baby's around would be unstoppable ;) )
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O my god a F4u-4 - i might have to join the mag-33 again, i know those guys miss me.
:)
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[ 10-09-2001: Message edited by: elstevie ]
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Originally posted by Wotan:
so your pressumption is hes "unskilled" and unable to get any kills is not "Criticism"
and my 1st thought was that hes getting kills but flies the wrong plane with a lo eny value is.. :rolleyes:
Are you a liberal democrat by chance ...... :eek:
Ohhh, the old “I’m rubber your glue” argument. This is indeed hard to argue with.
I’m not sure if the liberal comment deserves a response, as I didn’t say anything about your mother at all!
Zippatuh
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Ohhh, the old “I’m rubber your glue” argument. This is indeed hard to argue with.
wtf?
No its an example or your rediculous assumptions. This isn't an argument. I'm pointing/correcting your flawed logic. Much like a liberal you go out of your way to avoid someones "feelings" getting hurt that you come off insulting and belittling.
Read midnight post then your own. Theres not much difference in your assumptions. Then re-read my original. If you can't see the difference that's on you dont lay your crap on me...........