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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: CavemanJ on February 18, 2003, 09:29:19 AM

Title: PSU Question
Post by: CavemanJ on February 18, 2003, 09:29:19 AM

Right now the components are:
board - MSI K7N2G nForce2 board, will use onboard sound/lan
video - Leadtek GF4 Ti4400
512mb pc2700 (2x256mb dimms)
Athlon XP 2100+
Maxtor 80gb ata133 hdd
54x cd-rom, will be adding a burner sometime in the next few months
and the old venerable fdd.
Got a modem card and a tv tuner card that are prolly gonna find thier way into this contraption also.

Will a 350 be enough bellybutton to run all this? or should I go ahead and get a 400 + ?  Right now I'm hunting a box to stuff all these parts into (preferably a black one :D )

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Mini D on February 18, 2003, 10:58:20 AM

If it weren't for the additional TV Tuner card I'd say 350 would be fine.  Its still may be OK.  But... a 400 sure isn't going to hurt.

MiniD

Title: PSU Question
Post by: humble on February 18, 2003, 11:06:14 AM

technically 300 is "OK"...but I'd go 400 also. I'd be more worried about heat than anything else. Get a 6 fan case if you can...I got one with 350 and 6 fans from fry's for $79.

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Vermillion on February 18, 2003, 11:48:06 AM

CavemanJ, I just bought a new system and put in one of Chieftech's Tower cases with a 450 watt PS.  Really really nice.

Got mine from NewEgg.com and got free shipping.  Take a look (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=7&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=3810,3147,3621)

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Pfunk on February 18, 2003, 12:12:22 PM

Ditto on the Chieftec case, I got mine for $60 shipped from newegg with a 420WPS.

Title: PSU Question
Post by: CavemanJ on February 19, 2003, 01:21:07 AM

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Originally posted by Vermillion
CavemanJ, I just bought a new system and put in one of Chieftech's Tower cases with a 450 watt PS.  Really really nice.

Got mine from NewEgg.com and got free shipping.  Take a look (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=7&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=3810,3147,3621)

hmmm.. think I'll order one of those in the morning.  Thanks for the link Verm.  Looking at the pictures the only thing I don't like about it is they carried the window above that horizontal bar in the case.  This box is built in an Antec 835, and I was looking at the 1040BII for the new box, and thinking about windowing the side panels but stopping below that cross bar.

Now I just have to fight the urge to play with all the new stuff til the case gets here (RAM got here today, everything else will be here tomorrow or Thurs :D )

Title: PSU Question
Post by: bloom25 on February 20, 2003, 02:01:12 AM

Antec makes several cases with a window built in.  I think the 1080 has one.

I personally run my system in a 660AMG Antec case with 330W "true power" supply.  (The true power supplies can control their fan speed and the speed of 2 other case fans.  A quieter system is always good. :) )

I believe a 350W supply is enough Cave, especially an Antec.

My 330W Antec powers:

Asus A7N266-C (nForce 1)
2 x 256 PC 2700 DDR
Athlon XP 2400+ Overclocked to 2070 MHz cooled by Vantec Aeroflow heatsink (very nice heatsink BTW, just switched to it 2 days ago - temps 41C and quiet)
Leadtek TV tuner card
MSI GeForce 4 TI 4200 (Overclocked of course)
IBM 45 GB 75GXP drive (still going strong after 2.5 years)
Linksys NIC
DVD drive, floppy, and CD burner (Liteons)
4 Case fans in the system, 2 are speed controlled by the power supply.

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Replicant on February 20, 2003, 05:56:21 AM

I'm running a very similar system perfectly on a 300w PSU (I enquired with several companies if this was going to be powerful enough and they all said yes).

AMD Athlon 2200+
512mb 2700 DDR RAM
GeForce 4 Ti4200
40g HHD
plus the usual other stuff

I understood that the older GeForce 2 with Athlons required a higher wattage PSU but not sure if this was true.  I had a 330w with my old system.

Title: PSU Question
Post by: CavemanJ on February 20, 2003, 10:57:16 AM

Thanks bloom.  Dinnae want to run w/ less than a 350, just personal preference.  Reckon I can expand my looking a little bit since that one verm got from newegg is outta stock :D

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Vermillion on February 20, 2003, 11:41:37 AM

Actually, I got the silver one, not the black one I listed for you. :) I originally wanted the ice blue (out of stock), then went for the dragon red (out of stock), and settled for the silver.

But I'm very happy with the case. And when I put two more fans in it, I got the ones with the neon blue lights in it to light up the inside, it is really cool looking :D

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Terror on February 20, 2003, 01:17:31 PM

Good review on TomsHardware.

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/index.html

Terror

Title: PSU Question
Post by: JustJim on February 20, 2003, 06:37:57 PM

My belief is get a little more than you need because the last thing you want to do is over work your power supply.

currently i'm running 350 watt psup and i'm pushing my luck, I have 6 lighted case fans on top of the rest of the components and lately I have had problems with startups.

You can't go wrong for getting a little over and not overworking the power supply that way your all set for future upgrades that may require more power.

hope my opinion helps,  btw i'm looking at the antec truepower 480w or the 430w depends on availability price is pretty close.

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 21, 2003, 01:29:51 AM

6 fans? Tell me, do you wear any hearing protection when it's on? :eek:

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Replicant on February 21, 2003, 07:18:35 AM

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
6 fans? Tell me, do you wear any hearing protection when it's on? :eek:

He doesn't need to because his PC is hovering overhead and further away that it would be normally! ;)

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 21, 2003, 07:42:22 AM

Yeah I can see it before my eyes:

Title: PSU Question
Post by: JustJim on February 21, 2003, 03:34:34 PM

LMFAO,  actually i'm Modding my case to double as a working 262 for the Con.

Any suggestions for placement of the 30mm guns ?

Believe it or not it's not loud at all, Lian Li Case came stock with 5 fans installed.

I added the 6th for vid card cooling replaced them all with Antec Blue LED Fans   2 front, 2 back, 1 in sidepanel for video card and 1 blowhole in top.

Loudest part of the whole set up (besides girl squeaking i'm always on it) is the 6800 rpm cpu fan.

Hope it doesnt get perked.

(http://home.attbi.com/~jim_ferreira/wsb/media/141146/site1017.JPG)

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Staga on February 21, 2003, 06:19:41 PM

Thermaltake Xaser II 5000 Plus (http://www.thermaltake.com/products/cases/5000.htm).
Basically factory-modded Antec/Chieftec with 4 slow RPM fans (1 in front, 2 in back and one in blow-hole), fan controller and extra USB/Firewire ports in front.

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/xaser2.jpg)

btw still having watercooled system without any problems; XP2400 2,0GHz running 2,23GHz. BIOS thinks it's XP2800 :)

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 22, 2003, 03:53:43 AM

Yeah I reckommend watercooling too. It's a little work, but it's schweet once you get it running :)

Title: PSU Question
Post by: JustJim on February 22, 2003, 06:15:21 PM

Just Remember,  

water and electricity dont mix, they are natural enemies.

hell of a chance unless you dont mind replacing parts.

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Terror on February 22, 2003, 11:37:11 PM

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Originally posted by JustJim
Just Remember,  

water and electricity dont mix, they are natural enemies.

hell of a chance unless you dont mind replacing parts.

True if you use TAP water.  Most cooling systems use distilled water that has very few impurities.  Pure water (ie. distilled) is not much of a conductor of electricity.  It's the minerals in natural water that make it so conductive.  Coolant leaking is a concern, but not as much as you would think....

Terror

Title: PSU Question
Post by: Mini D on February 22, 2003, 11:43:14 PM

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Originally posted by JustJim
Just Remember,  

water and electricity dont mix, they are natural enemies.

hell of a chance unless you dont mind replacing parts.

It will not be too long before processors come with built in closed loop liquid cooling systems (pure water).

This I know.

MiniD

Title: PSU Question
Post by: OZkansas on February 24, 2003, 10:11:34 AM

http://www.compusa.com/buildyourown/product_info.asp?product_code=293598&pfp=BUILDYOUROWN

I like this case:)