Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrBill on February 19, 2003, 11:08:43 AM
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Good ole U.S.of A. :D
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$37 a barrel for oil.
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hehehehe no kidding :)
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Paid 1.79 for 93 this morning at a Texaco.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Paid 1.79 for 93 this morning at a Texaco.
Envious...of the Octane! 92 is best I can find. Still $1.69 this week.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Here it's about $1.20 per LITER!!! of 95 octane. Even more for 98.
What does the 98 octane level in Europe translate into American octane? I know theres a formula, but Ill be damed if I can remember it - its on all the pumps stateside.
PS: Funked - we've got 94 octane at the Sunoco's around here if you can pay for it.
How close are you to Sears Point? Drive over and fillerup with some race gas... then increase the boost... hehe. :D
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1.79 for 87…… :eek:
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Welcome to california, price for 92 oct. $2.09/gal and that is at the cheapest generic gas station in town. Chevron is $2.29/gal.
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Im confused. :confused:
Eh... BOMB IRAQ!!! :D
(Thanks for explanation)
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With more bad news, we just had a refinery fire at a BP facility in Indiana. Those of us in the Midwest can expect even higher gasoline prices and increased price volatility beyond those from the Venezuelan strike and the impending conflict in Iraq. Regular over $2.00? $2.50? Just have to wait and see.
BTW, with a few exceptions don't blame the guy that owns the gas station. Margins are already typically below 10-cents per gallon and when these situation happen it is not uncommon to see gasoline being sold at cost since the "company" stores often have a street price less than the marketer can get at the supply rack. The industry is even broadly looking at a zero margin on gasoline by 2005, hoping for store and car wash sales to make the money.
Charon
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What difference does it make really?
We put the stuff in our tanks and use our cars.
Is there another choice?(and don't suggest public transportation....I'm an American)
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Look at what we get in Australia!
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Who needs petrol?
Get a diesel car.
Fill it with vegetable oil.
Voila - tax free green fuel.
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kinda makes you wonder why we use oil.
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If I see a Union 76 (no MTBE) that is selling 87 Octane for only $1.79 per gallon I'm filling my tank.
The stations around here have 87 Octane at about $2.00 per gallon. In San Francisco its $2.04 per gallon.
I gave a bitter laugh when I heard on the radio today that Jeb Bush wants a price fixing investigation on the oil companies because 87 Octane has hit $1.60 or $1.70 a gallon in Florida. What's even sadder is that he's much more likely to get it than we are in CA because A) G. W. Bush needs Florida B) He's a Bush and C) California gave G. W. Bush the finger in 2000 and he's been giving us the finger ever since.
(Edit: Added decimal points to Florida's gas prices)
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Originally posted by Karnak
C) California gave G. W. Bush the finger in 2000 and he's been giving us the finger ever since.
More like we're getting his whole fist up our wazoos.
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I paid $1.489 yesterday for 87. The high in my area was 1.659 for premium, 91. 'Course this is Tayxus...:D
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just remeber to give him the finger in 2004
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Originally posted by Karnak
If I see a Union 76 (no MTBE) that is selling 87 Octane for only $1.79 per gallon I'm filling my tank.
I shop in special places ;)
to the rest of people, price is around 1.85-2.00+ here.
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1.81 87 this morning chevron
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150 here in se texas seems chimpland central gets different treatment.
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Ok so what is the diff between US and UK octane rating?
And if there isn't a diff how come the lowest we can buy is 95 octane and you guys get to put cheap bellybutton 87 octane sludge in yr tanks?
And WTF would happen to Rip's BMW lump if he put in the 98 octane good stuff that I used to run my bike on? :eek:
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The only thing that higher octane does is reduce the possibility of pre-ignition in higher compression engines or supercharged/turbocharged engines. It doesn't produce any more power in and of itself, it basically burns slower. With a higher octane rating you can increase pressure in the cylinders and get more power that way. If the vehicle is designed to run on 87 octane you don't gain anything from running a higher octane gasoline.
There is a misconception by a lot of folks on what higher octane gas will do hence the reason I explained it. :)
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Yep, I said the same thing back in a post about allied aircraft vs lufftwobble and highoctane fuel. Its a compression issue.
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$1.99 for 87 in L.A.
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
There is a misconception by a lot of folks on what higher octane gas will do hence the reason I explained it. :)
Since I have no chemical knowledge of how it all works I'll bow to your expertise. All I know is that when ya twist the twisty thing the world goes a little blurred.
And I swear I can feel the difference between 95 and 98 on acceleration. 95 gooooood, 98 better!
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Well Swoop, if your bike has a sensing unit on it like most of the newer cars that sense impending pre-ignition or detonation and reduce the timing to compensate, that would explain why. If it doesn't then it is your imagination :). Kinda like washing the car and it seems to run better and quieter...:D.
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Probably. Yamaha R6, first bike I ever owned with an engine management system.
But then again the bike before that (Kawasaki ZXR400) also went better on super. Catagorically. Just by taking up the throttle slack it could cruise at 85mph......on 95 octane you'd need more throttle to cruise at the same speed. No engine management on ZXRs........
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Do this little experiment:
Ok I live in a small town in the middle of the mountains so this is what we do for entertainment. :p
I had a 99 Toyota tacoma, wanted to figure out if the high oct. stuff really made a difference. Ran 3 tanks of the "cheap" stuff and averaged the MPG (21) Ran 3 tanks of 92 oct and averaged the MPG (24) And felt like I could notice the difference in power. If you work the difference in price/gal and figure out how much it cost per mile to run it was cheaper in the long run to buy the high oct. stuff. Told my friend about this and he tried it in his 92 Chevy with a 350 v8, worked the same for him, now runs the 92 oct.
However I tried this with my 2000 Chevy s-10 and my 2001 toyota 4-runner and there was no difference in MPG. Go figure?